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I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily
commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Thanks, Dan |
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"Dan" wrote in message nk.net... I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Thanks, Dan Whatever floats your boat, I guess. :-) Seriously, I can't offer any opinion or experience. I don't know what the tow ratings of either are. Although we had an X5 for a couple of years, it was not set up to tow nor did we ever try. Speaking of BMWs .... you might get a kick out of this. Mrs.E. is taking delivery of a Z4si Roadster on Monday. She decided she wanted something "sporty" to drive and other than her pickup truck, she's hooked on BMWs. At first she called me from the dealership and was going to get the Z4-M but I talked her out of it. Too much car and only available in a 6 speed manual that I know she would tire of quickly. She thinks she's gonna race me against the Porsche. hehehehe. Eisboch |
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! Dan |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. On 11/4/2006 7:25 PM, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Thanks, Dan A 4.8 liter engine for a daily commuter? A fool and his money... Depends on where and how far your commute is. These modern engines aren't a Toyota Prius in terms of gas mileage, but they aren't that bad either considering the performance they deliver. Eisboch |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:43:36 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: She thinks she's gonna race me against the Porsche. hehehehe. Take her up on it. ~~ snerk ~~ Most of the time I drive it like an old lady. I shift at or before 3000 rpm. The turbos don't kick in until 3000 rpm. But, once in a while it's fun to nail it and when you do, it's like being launched off an aircraft carrier. Eisboch |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:13:11 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Most of the time I drive it like an old lady. I shift at or before 3000 rpm. The turbos don't kick in until 3000 rpm. But, once in a while it's fun to nail it and when you do, it's like being launched off an aircraft carrier. I wonder - can you add NOX to it? :) I've read that it's done ... quite often. The flat 6 engine in the 911 is pretty much bullet proof and there are all kinds of both factory and aftermarket upgrades to increase horsepower. Mine's stock at 420hp and I feel no need for more. It's not that kind of a car, to me. Eisboch |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Performance? Well, maybe you can use it in Montana. Not around here. Not commuting. That's true. I've forgotten. Actually, I very rarely had to drive in commuter traffic for the past 25 years. My business was local (within 10 miles) and traffic was minimal because I traveled in the direction opposite to the main flow. I always felt badly for the people driving from the South Shore to Boston everyday. I could never do it. Got spoiled, I guess. Eisboch |
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Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Thanks, Dan It's your money, but I wouldn't consider either of these to be an acceptable towing vehicle. Their cars designed to look like something else, don't be fooled. I would go with a domestic vehicle equipped with the towing package. Towing is not easy on any vehicle, but using an expensive vehicle like your talking about, that really isn't up to the task, is foolish. I'd get to know the service manager real well if I were you, your going to be leaving some cash with him. |
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"Capt John" wrote in message ups.com... Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Thanks, Dan It's your money, but I wouldn't consider either of these to be an acceptable towing vehicle. Their cars designed to look like something else, don't be fooled. I would go with a domestic vehicle equipped with the towing package. Towing is not easy on any vehicle, but using an expensive vehicle like your talking about, that really isn't up to the task, is foolish. I'd get to know the service manager real well if I were you, your going to be leaving some cash with him. Just for kicks I looked up the tow capacities of a 2001 BMW X5 with the 4.4L V8 and was surprised. It was the only vehicle out of the 30 or so manufacturers that listed the tow capacity in terms of transmission type, off road towing limitations and maximum towing of a trailer without brakes. No other manufacturer breaks it down like that. The ratings a 4.4L V8 with automatic transmission: 6000lbs 3.0L I6 with automatic transmission: 5000lbs 3.0L I6 with manual transmission: 6000lbs Max towing weight without trailer brakes: (all) 1,650lbs Max towing weight off-road with trailer brakes: 3,300lbs I've seen many X5's on the road with a factory, receiver type hitch but frankly I don't think I've ever seen one towing anything. It's interesting though, that BMW rates them in this kind of detail, unlike other manufacturers. http://a178.g.akamai.net/7/178/8932/...owingguide.pdf or: http://tinyurl.com/4wbcl Eisboch |
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On 11/4/2006 7:25 PM, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Thanks, Dan A 4.8 liter engine for a daily commuter? A fool and his money... Both are very small V-8 engines and there are less efficient V-6's on the road. The trip to my office is 18 miles so 1-2 mpg is nothing. BTW - both are made in the US with union labor. Seems like just a few weeks ago you were talking up some Japanese vehicles... |
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. $55,600. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Factor in depreciation and the MB is probably the same after a few years. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. On 11/4/2006 7:25 PM, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Thanks, Dan A 4.8 liter engine for a daily commuter? A fool and his money... Depends on where and how far your commute is. These modern engines aren't a Toyota Prius in terms of gas mileage, but they aren't that bad either considering the performance they deliver. Eisboch My '04 X5 4.4 gets 16/22 mpg (city/highway). The 3.0 gets 16/21. I have the same experience with the five F-150's I own (for my company). The V-6's are marginally worse than the V-8's. The smaller engines just have to work harder to move the same vehicle. I wonder if the same is true with boats? Since running WOT in the ocean can only happen on a calm day does a bigger engine give you better economy for trolling, cruising, and running at near-idle in the no-wake zones like the intracoastal waterway? |
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"Capt John" wrote in message ups.com... Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Thanks, Dan It's your money, but I wouldn't consider either of these to be an acceptable towing vehicle. Their cars designed to look like something else, don't be fooled. I would go with a domestic vehicle equipped with the towing package. Towing is not easy on any vehicle, but using an expensive vehicle like your talking about, that really isn't up to the task, is foolish. I'd get to know the service manager real well if I were you, your going to be leaving some cash with him. Just for kicks I looked up the tow capacities of a 2001 BMW X5 with the 4.4L V8 and was surprised. It was the only vehicle out of the 30 or so manufacturers that listed the tow capacity in terms of transmission type, off road towing limitations and maximum towing of a trailer without brakes. No other manufacturer breaks it down like that. The ratings a 4.4L V8 with automatic transmission: 6000lbs 3.0L I6 with automatic transmission: 5000lbs 3.0L I6 with manual transmission: 6000lbs Max towing weight without trailer brakes: (all) 1,650lbs Max towing weight off-road with trailer brakes: 3,300lbs I've seen many X5's on the road with a factory, receiver type hitch but frankly I don't think I've ever seen one towing anything. It's interesting though, that BMW rates them in this kind of detail, unlike other manufacturers. http://a178.g.akamai.net/7/178/8932/...owingguide.pdf or: http://tinyurl.com/4wbcl Eisboch The '04 X5 4.4i is rated at 6000#. The M-B GL450 is rated at 7500#. The X-5 tows very well although I have never pulled more than about 4000#. |
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:02:45 GMT, Dan wrote: $55,600. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Factor in depreciation and the MB is probably the same after a few years. Well, no - it's not $51,000 because I just priced one out. $34,000 and change and that's the XLT option with the Tow Command and some other goodies. Well, yes - read "depending on the specific model" and go to ford.com. |
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Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. $55,600. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Factor in depreciation and the MB is probably the same after a few years. I don't know where you got those numbers. My brothers F-250 with four wheel drive was around $25K out the door (give or take a thousand), it's a 2005. He did buy it with all kinds of incentives, but it was a real world price. Now it is a little on the limited side in terms of options, but it's got a gas V8, automatic transmission, A/C, anti lock brakes, air bags. For a towing vehicle, it's just fine (get's like 16 MPG overall, not that bad for a heavy work truck). Now if your talking about a fully loaded truck with a diesel, your price is probably more realistic. But comparing a truck like that to the vehicles your talking about is like comparing apples to oranges. A truck like that could tow loads all day long, your vehicles would be heading for the scrap heap in a hurry if you did that to them. |
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Dan wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. On 11/4/2006 7:25 PM, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Thanks, Dan A 4.8 liter engine for a daily commuter? A fool and his money... Depends on where and how far your commute is. These modern engines aren't a Toyota Prius in terms of gas mileage, but they aren't that bad either considering the performance they deliver. Eisboch My '04 X5 4.4 gets 16/22 mpg (city/highway). The 3.0 gets 16/21. I have the same experience with the five F-150's I own (for my company). The V-6's are marginally worse than the V-8's. The smaller engines just have to work harder to move the same vehicle. I wonder if the same is true with boats? Since running WOT in the ocean can only happen on a calm day does a bigger engine give you better economy for trolling, cruising, and running at near-idle in the no-wake zones like the intracoastal waterway? A boat engine is running under a heavier load than a car or truck all the time. It takes a lot more energy to push a boat hull through the water. No one really run's their boat at WOT for long periods of time unless their a speed freak or they just don't care. But the engines are running at higher RPM's (3000 to 3500 RPM) for longer periods of time. And yes, typically, with inboard gas engines, a V8 will outlast a V6 simply because the V6 is working much harder to put out the same power. |
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Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! May be close to that list price. My 2004 Silverado HD LT 4x4 Diesel was list about $47k. |
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Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. $55,600. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Factor in depreciation and the MB is probably the same after a few years. I don't know where you got those numbers. My brothers F-250 with four wheel drive was around $25K out the door (give or take a thousand), it's a 2005. He did buy it with all kinds of incentives, but it was a real world price. Now it is a little on the limited side in terms of options, but it's got a gas V8, automatic transmission, A/C, anti lock brakes, air bags. For a towing vehicle, it's just fine (get's like 16 MPG overall, not that bad for a heavy work truck). Now if your talking about a fully loaded truck with a diesel, your price is probably more realistic. But comparing a truck like that to the vehicles your talking about is like comparing apples to oranges. A truck like that could tow loads all day long, your vehicles would be heading for the scrap heap in a hurry if you did that to them. The discussion was about prices, not towing capability. I have a customer who paid just under $51K for an F-250 from the dealer's showroom. |
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Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! Kevin has come to play. Obsessed??? I just "built" a fully loaded F-250 on ford.com and the MSRP came to $54,065. It was almost $51K before options. To help you with the math, that is only $1610.00 less than the Mercedes Benz GL450 base model. Now start spinning my post... |
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:07:21 GMT, Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! Kevin has come to play. Obsessed??? I just "built" a fully loaded F-250 on ford.com and the MSRP came to $54,065. It was almost $51K before options. To help you with the math, that is only $1610.00 less than the Mercedes Benz GL450 base model. Now start spinning my post... I'm not going to spin, but I've got to believe that there is some kind of problem here. The F-250 4X4 I just dealer priced, XLT, tow package, plow package, extra cab, eight foot bed, liner, auto trans, fabric interior came to $34,745 before trade on my truck. They have a diesel for $37,950, same package. We're still arguing over what my truck is worth. That's a fact and I can scan both truck's spec sheets. Now I don't know where you got $54,065, but that ain't anywhere near $34,745 or $37,950 and from what I can gather, we priced similar trucks. http://www.ford.com is the source. I also have a customer who spent that kind of money on an F-250. It's the H-D edition plus options. We're not comparing vehicles here since they obviously are not competitors for the same market. The "challenge", if you want to call it that, was that a F250 could (or couldn't) run into the $50K range. Kevin managed to hit about 15 keys and hit send without checking it out. Before the resident hot head jumps in and delicately edits my post, I clearly said "A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model." Dan |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:58:02 GMT, Dan wrote: I just "built" a fully loaded F-250 on ford.com and the MSRP came to $54,065. It was almost $51K before options. To help you with the math, that is only $1610.00 less than the Mercedes Benz GL450 base model. Now start spinning my post... The F-250 4X4 I just dealer priced, XLT, tow package, plow package, extra cab, eight foot bed, liner, auto trans, fabric interior came to $34,745 before trade on my truck. They have a diesel for $37,950, same package. We're still arguing over what my truck is worth. http://www.ford.com is the source. I also have a customer who spent that kind of money on an F-250. It's the H-D edition plus options. We're not comparing vehicles here since they obviously are not competitors for the same market. The "challenge", if you want to call it that, was that a F250 could (or couldn't) run into the $50K range. Kevin managed to hit about 15 keys and hit send without checking it out. No problem - just trying to figure it out that's all. :) My son and I both bought '05 Ford pickups last summer. His is a F-250 V10 gas XLT Crew Cab, nicely equipped with several options including Tow Command. It's MSRP was right around 34K. Mine is a F-350 diesel "Harley Edition" Crew Cab that is loaded up with every option known to man ... all leather, front and rear buckets, 20" rims, Tow Command, moonroof, heated seats, etc. plus the custom Harley interior treatment and exterior paint. It's MSRP was just over 52K, but I paid considerably less for it. I wasn't looking for a Harley edition but needed the F-350's tow rating and it just happened to be the only truck available in my area that was rated to tow a 15,500lb fifth-wheel trailer that I could get quickly and without placing a factory order. Funny thing is that regardless of the F-350's increased GVW, payload and towing capacity, the only difference between it and a F-250 is the rear spring ratings and, of course, the diesel. So, everyone's correct. BTW .... Shortwave .... I don't know if you are considering the gas V10. It's a nice engine but my son's only complaint is the poor mileage ... towing or not towing. He's lucky to get 10 mpg around town. Still, he loves the truck and wouldn't even think of getting rid of it. Eisboch |
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CalifBill wrote: A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! May be close to that list price. My 2004 Silverado HD LT 4x4 Diesel was list about $47k. Did you just possibly happen to read "base model"??? Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Here is an example, MSRP is $34k can be had for $30k, do you consider THAT close to $51k?: http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_truck_f_...t _styleside/ The King Ranch version is only $40k directly from Ford's website: http://tinyurl.com/yyjm23 |
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Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! Kevin has come to play. Obsessed??? I just "built" a fully loaded F-250 on ford.com and the MSRP came to $54,065. It was almost $51K before options. To help you with the math, that is only $1610.00 less than the Mercedes Benz GL450 base model. Now start spinning my post... I take it you were too stupid to see that the original poster said "BASE MODEL"? On the build your own website, you can get the base model for way under $30k. I don't have to spin your post seeing how you're not bright enough to read. So, now you are obsessed with Kevin? Good, you might leave me alone. You're getting like the pesky little gnat just staying barely out of reach to get slapped down. |
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 03:28:38 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:58:02 GMT, Dan wrote: I just "built" a fully loaded F-250 on ford.com and the MSRP came to $54,065. It was almost $51K before options. To help you with the math, that is only $1610.00 less than the Mercedes Benz GL450 base model. Now start spinning my post... The F-250 4X4 I just dealer priced, XLT, tow package, plow package, extra cab, eight foot bed, liner, auto trans, fabric interior came to $34,745 before trade on my truck. They have a diesel for $37,950, same package. We're still arguing over what my truck is worth. http://www.ford.com is the source. I also have a customer who spent that kind of money on an F-250. It's the H-D edition plus options. We're not comparing vehicles here since they obviously are not competitors for the same market. The "challenge", if you want to call it that, was that a F250 could (or couldn't) run into the $50K range. Kevin managed to hit about 15 keys and hit send without checking it out. No problem - just trying to figure it out that's all. :) My son and I both bought '05 Ford pickups last summer. His is a F-250 V10 gas XLT Crew Cab, nicely equipped with several options including Tow Command. It's MSRP was right around 34K. Mine is a F-350 diesel "Harley Edition" Crew Cab that is loaded up with every option known to man ... all leather, front and rear buckets, 20" rims, Tow Command, moonroof, heated seats, etc. plus the custom Harley interior treatment and exterior paint. It's MSRP was just over 52K, but I paid considerably less for it. I wasn't looking for a Harley edition but needed the F-350's tow rating and it just happened to be the only truck available in my area that was rated to tow a 15,500lb fifth-wheel trailer that I could get quickly and without placing a factory order. Funny thing is that regardless of the F-350's increased GVW, payload and towing capacity, the only difference between it and a F-250 is the rear spring ratings and, of course, the diesel. So, everyone's correct. BTW .... Shortwave .... I don't know if you are considering the gas V10. It's a nice engine but my son's only complaint is the poor mileage ... towing or not towing. He's lucky to get 10 mpg around town. Still, he loves the truck and wouldn't even think of getting rid of it. There are some construction guys here in town that have the V-10 and they complain about the gas mileage all the time. I'm staying away from the V-10. Whats interesting in this thread is that while the Ford Price has taken over as the lead issues. If the above is true There is no way to compair a truck that can tow 15,000 lbs and one that tows 7500lbs ie Mercedes Benz GL450. Or as the site says - Optional 7,500-pound towing capacity. These are two totaly different markets here. Capt Jack R. Glad to be out of the towing business :-) |
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CalifBill wrote: A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! May be close to that list price. My 2004 Silverado HD LT 4x4 Diesel was list about $47k. Did you just possibly happen to read "base model"??? Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Here is an example, MSRP is $34k can be had for $30k, do you consider THAT close to $51k?: http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_truck_f_...t _styleside/ The King Ranch version is only $40k directly from Ford's website: http://tinyurl.com/yyjm23 Who are you trying to reply to, Kevin? If it's CalifBill, your response has nothing to do with his statement. If it's me, you are STILL wrong and need to go to ford.com where you will find a base F250 for just short of $51K. When you are done, admit that you are a liar or you aren't a man. Where did *that* come from??? |
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Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! Kevin has come to play. Obsessed??? I just "built" a fully loaded F-250 on ford.com and the MSRP came to $54,065. It was almost $51K before options. To help you with the math, that is only $1610.00 less than the Mercedes Benz GL450 base model. Now start spinning my post... I take it you were too stupid to see that the original poster said "BASE MODEL"? On the build your own website, you can get the base model for way under $30k. I don't have to spin your post seeing how you're not bright enough to read. So, now you are obsessed with Kevin? Good, you might leave me alone. You're getting like the pesky little gnat just staying barely out of reach to get slapped down. Nice spin, but the original poster wasn't specific about anything but the fact that it was a Ford F250. Of the several available I have no idea which one he is considering. You seem to find it difficult to read that I clearly said "depending on the specific model". Give up, moron, you are WRONG. |
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Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: CalifBill wrote: A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! May be close to that list price. My 2004 Silverado HD LT 4x4 Diesel was list about $47k. Did you just possibly happen to read "base model"??? Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Here is an example, MSRP is $34k can be had for $30k, do you consider THAT close to $51k?: http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_truck_f_...t _styleside/ The King Ranch version is only $40k directly from Ford's website: http://tinyurl.com/yyjm23 Who are you trying to reply to, Kevin? If it's CalifBill, your response has nothing to do with his statement. If it's me, you are STILL wrong and need to go to ford.com where you will find a base F250 for just short of $51K. When you are done, admit that you are a liar or you aren't a man. Where did *that* come from??? I'm not Kevin. And it's because you are a known liar. For instance, you said that you've seen me both on CNN and in the AJC. Liar. Now, here is a base 2007 for less than the $30k I stated: http://tinyurl.com/y8zvpt This is Ford's website, notice in the right hand corner that the first two are less than 30k for a 2007, and the King Ranch addition is only 40k, as I've stated: http://tinyurl.com/yk36a8 Here in Smyrna, GA, notice the MSRP is 27k to 53k. If you are any kind of buyer, you never pay MSRP. http://tinyurl.com/ycaogh Another built from Ford's website for 23k: http://tinyurl.com/yen57u Autobytel four of them in different trim options from $20k to $26k http://tinyurl.com/yj2mgk From Edmund's website, showing MSRP for 2006 models at $22k to $38k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...rge/index.html From Edmund's showing invoice price of a tad over $20k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...21/prices.html So, I've shown you that a base model Ford F-250 2006 OR 2007 model is nowhere near $51k. You should be feeling pretty stupid by now.... |
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Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! Kevin has come to play. Obsessed??? I just "built" a fully loaded F-250 on ford.com and the MSRP came to $54,065. It was almost $51K before options. To help you with the math, that is only $1610.00 less than the Mercedes Benz GL450 base model. Now start spinning my post... I take it you were too stupid to see that the original poster said "BASE MODEL"? On the build your own website, you can get the base model for way under $30k. I don't have to spin your post seeing how you're not bright enough to read. So, now you are obsessed with Kevin? Good, you might leave me alone. You're getting like the pesky little gnat just staying barely out of reach to get slapped down. Nice spin, but the original poster wasn't specific about anything but the fact that it was a Ford F250. Of the several available I have no idea which one he is considering. You seem to find it difficult to read that I clearly said "depending on the specific model". Give up, moron, you are WRONG. YOU said: "A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model.". BASE MODEL........ those are YOUR words. Depending on the specific model is fine. But, you are only $30k off of the BASE MODEL..... Once again, your childish name calling shows you have no credibility. Now, go to all of the websites I've given you for new 2006 and 2007 Fords where the MSRP is $30k less than you've stated above. Tell the group what you see!!! |
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basskisser wrote:
Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: CalifBill wrote: A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! May be close to that list price. My 2004 Silverado HD LT 4x4 Diesel was list about $47k. Did you just possibly happen to read "base model"??? Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Here is an example, MSRP is $34k can be had for $30k, do you consider THAT close to $51k?: http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_truck_f_...t _styleside/ The King Ranch version is only $40k directly from Ford's website: http://tinyurl.com/yyjm23 Who are you trying to reply to, Kevin? If it's CalifBill, your response has nothing to do with his statement. If it's me, you are STILL wrong and need to go to ford.com where you will find a base F250 for just short of $51K. When you are done, admit that you are a liar or you aren't a man. Where did *that* come from??? I'm not Kevin. And it's because you are a known liar. For instance, you said that you've seen me both on CNN and in the AJC. Liar. Now, here is a base 2007 for less than the $30k I stated: http://tinyurl.com/y8zvpt This is Ford's website, notice in the right hand corner that the first two are less than 30k for a 2007, and the King Ranch addition is only 40k, as I've stated: http://tinyurl.com/yk36a8 Here in Smyrna, GA, notice the MSRP is 27k to 53k. If you are any kind of buyer, you never pay MSRP. http://tinyurl.com/ycaogh Another built from Ford's website for 23k: http://tinyurl.com/yen57u Autobytel four of them in different trim options from $20k to $26k http://tinyurl.com/yj2mgk From Edmund's website, showing MSRP for 2006 models at $22k to $38k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...rge/index.html From Edmund's showing invoice price of a tad over $20k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...21/prices.html So, I've shown you that a base model Ford F-250 2006 OR 2007 model is nowhere near $51k. You should be feeling pretty stupid by now.... I didn't click on a single link - I have better things to do. You really should learn to read. All of your obsessive work is nothing but a waste of time. The point, once again, was that a Ford F-250 base model can run just short of $51K. You chose to spend half a day at work looking for cheaper models of the F-250 that cost less. Good for you. You are still wrong - or a liar as you would say. |
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Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! Kevin has come to play. Obsessed??? I just "built" a fully loaded F-250 on ford.com and the MSRP came to $54,065. It was almost $51K before options. To help you with the math, that is only $1610.00 less than the Mercedes Benz GL450 base model. Now start spinning my post... I take it you were too stupid to see that the original poster said "BASE MODEL"? On the build your own website, you can get the base model for way under $30k. I don't have to spin your post seeing how you're not bright enough to read. So, now you are obsessed with Kevin? Good, you might leave me alone. You're getting like the pesky little gnat just staying barely out of reach to get slapped down. Nice spin, but the original poster wasn't specific about anything but the fact that it was a Ford F250. Of the several available I have no idea which one he is considering. You seem to find it difficult to read that I clearly said "depending on the specific model". Give up, moron, you are WRONG. YOU said: "A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model.". BASE MODEL........ those are YOUR words. Depending on the specific model is fine. But, you are only $30k off of the BASE MODEL..... Once again, your childish name calling shows you have no credibility. Now, go to all of the websites I've given you for new 2006 and 2007 Fords where the MSRP is $30k less than you've stated above. Tell the group what you see!!! You're kidding, right? Base model/trim level - call it what you want. I guess I shouldn't expect anything different from you since you seem to live for altercations on usenet. Also, "your childish name calling shows you have no credibility" is getting old. Find a new catchphrase, **** for brains. |
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:59:31 GMT, Dan
wrote: You chose to spend half a day at work looking for cheaper models of the F-250 that cost less. Good for you. You are still wrong - or a liar as you would say. Frankly Dan, not too many people care. Why not give it up and think about boats. |
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:21:12 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:59:31 GMT, Dan wrote: You chose to spend half a day at work looking for cheaper models of the F-250 that cost less. Good for you. You are still wrong - or a liar as you would say. Frankly Dan, not too many people care. Why not give it up and think about boats. Isn't that the truth! |
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Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: CalifBill wrote: A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! May be close to that list price. My 2004 Silverado HD LT 4x4 Diesel was list about $47k. Did you just possibly happen to read "base model"??? Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Here is an example, MSRP is $34k can be had for $30k, do you consider THAT close to $51k?: http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_truck_f_...t _styleside/ The King Ranch version is only $40k directly from Ford's website: http://tinyurl.com/yyjm23 Who are you trying to reply to, Kevin? If it's CalifBill, your response has nothing to do with his statement. If it's me, you are STILL wrong and need to go to ford.com where you will find a base F250 for just short of $51K. When you are done, admit that you are a liar or you aren't a man. Where did *that* come from??? I'm not Kevin. And it's because you are a known liar. For instance, you said that you've seen me both on CNN and in the AJC. Liar. Now, here is a base 2007 for less than the $30k I stated: http://tinyurl.com/y8zvpt This is Ford's website, notice in the right hand corner that the first two are less than 30k for a 2007, and the King Ranch addition is only 40k, as I've stated: http://tinyurl.com/yk36a8 Here in Smyrna, GA, notice the MSRP is 27k to 53k. If you are any kind of buyer, you never pay MSRP. http://tinyurl.com/ycaogh Another built from Ford's website for 23k: http://tinyurl.com/yen57u Autobytel four of them in different trim options from $20k to $26k http://tinyurl.com/yj2mgk From Edmund's website, showing MSRP for 2006 models at $22k to $38k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...rge/index.html From Edmund's showing invoice price of a tad over $20k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...21/prices.html So, I've shown you that a base model Ford F-250 2006 OR 2007 model is nowhere near $51k. You should be feeling pretty stupid by now.... I didn't click on a single link - I have better things to do. You really should learn to read. All of your obsessive work is nothing but a waste of time. The point, once again, was that a Ford F-250 base model can run just short of $51K. No, that's with many, many options which makes it NOT a "base model". Again, if a base model is $21k, how could a base model be $51k? Unless you are a sucker. You chose to spend half a day at work looking for cheaper models of the F-250 that cost less. Good for you. You are still wrong - or a liar as you would say. Took about 30 seconds to prove you wrong. Infatuation..... Infatuation.... It's making Dan crazy.... It's driving Dan CRAAAAAZZZYYY.... |
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Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! Kevin has come to play. Obsessed??? I just "built" a fully loaded F-250 on ford.com and the MSRP came to $54,065. It was almost $51K before options. To help you with the math, that is only $1610.00 less than the Mercedes Benz GL450 base model. Now start spinning my post... I take it you were too stupid to see that the original poster said "BASE MODEL"? On the build your own website, you can get the base model for way under $30k. I don't have to spin your post seeing how you're not bright enough to read. So, now you are obsessed with Kevin? Good, you might leave me alone. You're getting like the pesky little gnat just staying barely out of reach to get slapped down. Nice spin, but the original poster wasn't specific about anything but the fact that it was a Ford F250. Of the several available I have no idea which one he is considering. You seem to find it difficult to read that I clearly said "depending on the specific model". Give up, moron, you are WRONG. YOU said: "A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model.". BASE MODEL........ those are YOUR words. Depending on the specific model is fine. But, you are only $30k off of the BASE MODEL..... Once again, your childish name calling shows you have no credibility. Now, go to all of the websites I've given you for new 2006 and 2007 Fords where the MSRP is $30k less than you've stated above. Tell the group what you see!!! You're kidding, right? Base model/trim level - call it what you want. I guess I shouldn't expect anything different from you since you seem to live for altercations on usenet. Also, "your childish name calling shows you have no credibility" is getting old. Find a new catchphrase, **** for brains. Your childish name calling tells alot about you, that's why. It shows that you are too stupid to debate anything without acting like a little school girl. Infatuation...... |
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"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: CalifBill wrote: A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! May be close to that list price. My 2004 Silverado HD LT 4x4 Diesel was list about $47k. Did you just possibly happen to read "base model"??? Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Here is an example, MSRP is $34k can be had for $30k, do you consider THAT close to $51k?: http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_truck_f_...t _styleside/ The King Ranch version is only $40k directly from Ford's website: http://tinyurl.com/yyjm23 Who are you trying to reply to, Kevin? If it's CalifBill, your response has nothing to do with his statement. If it's me, you are STILL wrong and need to go to ford.com where you will find a base F250 for just short of $51K. When you are done, admit that you are a liar or you aren't a man. Where did *that* come from??? I'm not Kevin. And it's because you are a known liar. For instance, you said that you've seen me both on CNN and in the AJC. Liar. Now, here is a base 2007 for less than the $30k I stated: http://tinyurl.com/y8zvpt This is Ford's website, notice in the right hand corner that the first two are less than 30k for a 2007, and the King Ranch addition is only 40k, as I've stated: http://tinyurl.com/yk36a8 Here in Smyrna, GA, notice the MSRP is 27k to 53k. If you are any kind of buyer, you never pay MSRP. http://tinyurl.com/ycaogh Another built from Ford's website for 23k: http://tinyurl.com/yen57u Autobytel four of them in different trim options from $20k to $26k http://tinyurl.com/yj2mgk From Edmund's website, showing MSRP for 2006 models at $22k to $38k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...rge/index.html From Edmund's showing invoice price of a tad over $20k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...21/prices.html So, I've shown you that a base model Ford F-250 2006 OR 2007 model is nowhere near $51k. You should be feeling pretty stupid by now.... I didn't click on a single link - I have better things to do. You really should learn to read. All of your obsessive work is nothing but a waste of time. The point, once again, was that a Ford F-250 base model can run just short of $51K. No, that's with many, many options which makes it NOT a "base model". Again, if a base model is $21k, how could a base model be $51k? Unless you are a sucker. You chose to spend half a day at work looking for cheaper models of the F-250 that cost less. Good for you. You are still wrong - or a liar as you would say. Took about 30 seconds to prove you wrong. Infatuation..... Infatuation.... It's making Dan crazy.... It's driving Dan CRAAAAAZZZYYY.... Go to www.ford.com and check it out. F-250 Super Duty Harley-Davidson MSRP $50,890 |
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basskisser wrote:
Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: CalifBill wrote: A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! May be close to that list price. My 2004 Silverado HD LT 4x4 Diesel was list about $47k. Did you just possibly happen to read "base model"??? Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Here is an example, MSRP is $34k can be had for $30k, do you consider THAT close to $51k?: http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_truck_f_...t _styleside/ The King Ranch version is only $40k directly from Ford's website: http://tinyurl.com/yyjm23 Who are you trying to reply to, Kevin? If it's CalifBill, your response has nothing to do with his statement. If it's me, you are STILL wrong and need to go to ford.com where you will find a base F250 for just short of $51K. When you are done, admit that you are a liar or you aren't a man. Where did *that* come from??? I'm not Kevin. And it's because you are a known liar. For instance, you said that you've seen me both on CNN and in the AJC. Liar. Now, here is a base 2007 for less than the $30k I stated: http://tinyurl.com/y8zvpt This is Ford's website, notice in the right hand corner that the first two are less than 30k for a 2007, and the King Ranch addition is only 40k, as I've stated: http://tinyurl.com/yk36a8 Here in Smyrna, GA, notice the MSRP is 27k to 53k. If you are any kind of buyer, you never pay MSRP. http://tinyurl.com/ycaogh Another built from Ford's website for 23k: http://tinyurl.com/yen57u Autobytel four of them in different trim options from $20k to $26k http://tinyurl.com/yj2mgk From Edmund's website, showing MSRP for 2006 models at $22k to $38k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...rge/index.html From Edmund's showing invoice price of a tad over $20k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...21/prices.html So, I've shown you that a base model Ford F-250 2006 OR 2007 model is nowhere near $51k. You should be feeling pretty stupid by now.... I didn't click on a single link - I have better things to do. You really should learn to read. All of your obsessive work is nothing but a waste of time. The point, once again, was that a Ford F-250 base model can run just short of $51K. No, that's with many, many options which makes it NOT a "base model". Again, if a base model is $21k, how could a base model be $51k? Unless you are a sucker. You chose to spend half a day at work looking for cheaper models of the F-250 that cost less. Good for you. You are still wrong - or a liar as you would say. Took about 30 seconds to prove you wrong. Infatuation..... Infatuation.... It's making Dan crazy.... It's driving Dan CRAAAAAZZZYYY.... Here it is, dumbass. http://www9.forddirect.fordvehicles....and=Ford&sZip= $50,890 and NO options. A BASE F250 Harley Davidson. Who's wrong now? |
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basskisser wrote:
Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:49:51 GMT, Dan wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:25:50 GMT, Dan wrote: I need to get a new tow vehicle that I can also use for the daily commute and I've narrowed it down to two but that could always change. '07 BMW X5 4.8 (limited info out right now) or '07 MB GL450 Any thoughts? I have an '04 X5 4.4 right now. I've never had a Mercedes but I am impressed with what I see in the GL. Jumpin' Tree Frogs... And I'm bitchin about the price of a 2006 F-250 diesel!! :) There isn't that much of a difference! I suppose if you consider $20,000 dollar difference minor. :) What's that GL450 run nowadays. A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! Kevin has come to play. Obsessed??? I just "built" a fully loaded F-250 on ford.com and the MSRP came to $54,065. It was almost $51K before options. To help you with the math, that is only $1610.00 less than the Mercedes Benz GL450 base model. Now start spinning my post... I take it you were too stupid to see that the original poster said "BASE MODEL"? On the build your own website, you can get the base model for way under $30k. I don't have to spin your post seeing how you're not bright enough to read. So, now you are obsessed with Kevin? Good, you might leave me alone. You're getting like the pesky little gnat just staying barely out of reach to get slapped down. Nice spin, but the original poster wasn't specific about anything but the fact that it was a Ford F250. Of the several available I have no idea which one he is considering. You seem to find it difficult to read that I clearly said "depending on the specific model". Give up, moron, you are WRONG. YOU said: "A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model.". BASE MODEL........ those are YOUR words. Depending on the specific model is fine. But, you are only $30k off of the BASE MODEL..... Once again, your childish name calling shows you have no credibility. Now, go to all of the websites I've given you for new 2006 and 2007 Fords where the MSRP is $30k less than you've stated above. Tell the group what you see!!! You're kidding, right? Base model/trim level - call it what you want. I guess I shouldn't expect anything different from you since you seem to live for altercations on usenet. Also, "your childish name calling shows you have no credibility" is getting old. Find a new catchphrase, **** for brains. Your childish name calling tells alot about you, that's why. It shows that you are too stupid to debate anything without acting like a little school girl. Infatuation...... Debate? Infatuation? What the hell are you talking about? This started as a discussion about tow vehicles. You jumped in and here we are. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: Dan wrote: basskisser wrote: CalifBill wrote: A Ford F-250 base model is nearly $51,000 depending on the specific model. Bull****!!!!! May be close to that list price. My 2004 Silverado HD LT 4x4 Diesel was list about $47k. Did you just possibly happen to read "base model"??? Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Here is an example, MSRP is $34k can be had for $30k, do you consider THAT close to $51k?: http://autos.yahoo.com/ford_truck_f_...t _styleside/ The King Ranch version is only $40k directly from Ford's website: http://tinyurl.com/yyjm23 Who are you trying to reply to, Kevin? If it's CalifBill, your response has nothing to do with his statement. If it's me, you are STILL wrong and need to go to ford.com where you will find a base F250 for just short of $51K. When you are done, admit that you are a liar or you aren't a man. Where did *that* come from??? I'm not Kevin. And it's because you are a known liar. For instance, you said that you've seen me both on CNN and in the AJC. Liar. Now, here is a base 2007 for less than the $30k I stated: http://tinyurl.com/y8zvpt This is Ford's website, notice in the right hand corner that the first two are less than 30k for a 2007, and the King Ranch addition is only 40k, as I've stated: http://tinyurl.com/yk36a8 Here in Smyrna, GA, notice the MSRP is 27k to 53k. If you are any kind of buyer, you never pay MSRP. http://tinyurl.com/ycaogh Another built from Ford's website for 23k: http://tinyurl.com/yen57u Autobytel four of them in different trim options from $20k to $26k http://tinyurl.com/yj2mgk From Edmund's website, showing MSRP for 2006 models at $22k to $38k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...rge/index.html From Edmund's showing invoice price of a tad over $20k: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/ford...21/prices.html So, I've shown you that a base model Ford F-250 2006 OR 2007 model is nowhere near $51k. You should be feeling pretty stupid by now.... I didn't click on a single link - I have better things to do. You really should learn to read. All of your obsessive work is nothing but a waste of time. The point, once again, was that a Ford F-250 base model can run just short of $51K. No, that's with many, many options which makes it NOT a "base model". Again, if a base model is $21k, how could a base model be $51k? Unless you are a sucker. You chose to spend half a day at work looking for cheaper models of the F-250 that cost less. Good for you. You are still wrong - or a liar as you would say. Took about 30 seconds to prove you wrong. Infatuation..... Infatuation.... It's making Dan crazy.... It's driving Dan CRAAAAAZZZYYY.... Go to www.ford.com and check it out. F-250 Super Duty Harley-Davidson MSRP $50,890 You beat me to it, Bill. |
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