Just passing & thought I'd paste you some of the posts, damn this is
really going to be more fun to watch than ficht:-)

Lean at power, poor atomisation, too low an injection pressure, lack of
lube.

Take care.

K





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Yamaha 4 Stroke vs Evinrude E-TEC (gpe2468) 10:55 AM 6/16/2006

The other day i spoke to someone whos on his 4th powerhead on a BRAND
NEW Etec. What a piece of garbage. Ive also read a couple of people here
on the forum complaining about there Etecs as well. My buddy did get a
sweet compensation tho....free oil .

Given your personal expereinces with your yammies why would you ever
consider changing to an Etec

I personally own a Fuel Inj 150 yammie and run it on an 18 Actioncraft.
Iam as happy as a pig in . Boat runs at 52-53 and cruises at 45 no
problemo, regardless of load.

My advice.....Yammie, hands down

Modified by Action 18 at 10:55 AM 6/16/2006


E-TEC Issues 9:27 AM 10/24/2006

I have a 2006 Bluewater 2350 w/ 250hp E-TEC. The motor is almost 11
months old and I have had a rash of problems.

-Needed hub cooling kit, kept spinning props
-Needed deflector pin upgrade because of poor idling and fouled plugs
-Bad iCommand power cable harness
-Replaced entire trim/tilt unit
-Blown lower unit (just this past weekend)

I was wondering who else is having problems. This is not a 'bash
evinrude' thread. I really like what the E-TEC was designed to do so
maybe I just have the 1 lemon out of 1000. I have found a good local
dealer here in Tampa (Don's Outboards) and they've been taking good care
of me.

Thoughts


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E-TEC Issues (Jeffishin') 9:54 AM 10/24/2006

Deflector pins here also and blown power head in 4 months of use....
Switching over to Suzuki's... If that helps.




my twin '06 200 ho have been in the shop 8 times since june and going
for 9 next week. plugs, pins, lower unit, overheat alarms (multiple
times), no oil alarms (multiple times), gauges and poor fuel economy.




Modified by mike c at 5:58 PM 10/24/2006

I run mine with 50:1 oil. I am not convinced that 100:1, even with
synthetic oil, is a good idea. I'll wait a couple of years and let you
other guys blow up the powerheads before deciding.



Mine break down more than a DC-8.

But in all seriousness I bought mine for a couple reasons and they have
only actually fulfilled one. I thought they would look nicer on my boat
because they are white and with everything else on my boat being white
they dont seem to have a harsh contrast to the rest of my boat. I really
like that part of them. Cant say much for the rest.


I had a few problems early with my engines but I really like them, they
run hard and I've pushed them hard. the issues that I have had Evinrude
has take care of and I've been happy with the service and use of them.

-Needed deflector pin upgrade because of poor idling and fouled plugs
-Bad iCommand power cable harness
-Blown powerhead on delivery

Even though I had issue with them I don't regret purchasing them.


I have the 115 and the problems I have been having are with the wiring.
For example I had a wire that was rubbing against a head bolt for a year
and then when I was 15 miles offshore the engine died. I got a tow back
in but I found out. That the head bolt had rubbed the plastic covering
off the wire and when ever the wire touched the head bolt the engine
would die. That was the biggie but I have had other problems that I have
never had with my old merc. But it looks soo sweet on my boat.


-Needed deflector pin upgrade because of poor idling and fouled plugs
-Bad iCommand power cable harness
-Blown powerhead on delivery



just because hey say that the engines have no SCHEDULED maintenance
doesn't mean you don't have to do it it just means they don't tell you
when to do it.



Oh what have I gotten myself into now. Brand new 250 etec with 6 hrs on
it. The trim/tilt switch on the binaacle has quit, but the one on the
motor still works and it overheated while trolling this weekend. Bad I
command guages delayed the delivery of the boat too. After all of the
talk about power heads going I am really afraid mine will go beacuse I
am running the 100:1 and it will strand me offshore. Then I will fix it
sell the boat and get another one made with the 300zuke.


I have an '05 225 E-tec that I had rigged in May of '05 and currently
have just over 300 hours on it. The following is a list of issues:
1. Crank Position sensor changed
2. Deflector Pins changed
3. Low pressure fuel pump changed
4. Hub cooling kit installed
5. several sets of spark plugs

Main issue was bogging down after several hours of high speed trolling.
Since the low pressure fuel pump has been changed, I have not had the
issue again.

In addition, as the BRP team tested the setup on the bright blue
metalflake Bullet, the new gearcase began to exhibit a few problems. The
extreme engine height required to extract the best top speeds from the
combo began to take its toll, and the unit began to have problems
heating up. The results almost halted the test; the Hydromotive prop it
was turning began to experience hub failures (the plastic hub insert
kept melting), and the lower unit’s bearing carrier began to lose its
seals. In addition, the bearing carrier itself began to rotate inside
the lower unit housing. In the end, Foy had to reseal the carrier and
re-install it at a local dealer.

THe hub cooling kit/spun hub issues are a result of Evinrude not having
done enough R&D on their new lower units for the E-TECs before bringing
them to market. They had the same issues on the 225 E-TECs in the Bass
and Walleye Boats 225 shootout with hubs melting and seals warping:

Here, this one is on topic.

Own a 90hp ETEC. Two blown powerheads in 300hrs of use , less than a
year & 1/2 since purchased. Of course my oil warning came on too, but
that's nothing. Having to get towed from 10 miles offshore .
I can't complain about the customer service though. The first blown
power head I was given a case of XD100 and a new SS Viper prop. The
second time just a case of XD100. At this rate I won't have to buy
oil......ever. I should be due for another break down and a case of oil.
Other than two blown power heads, I have not had any other problems.
Funny because last time I blew a power head, I made a post in the South
General and it was removed. Seems like the moderators here can do what
ever they want as long as it is in their interest.


I repowered with '05 200's (big blocks). I have had issues of oil
alarm(s) on one engine & the oil pump/sensor replaced 2 times. Pin
deflectors & MAP updates coincided with the Oil issues so I killed 2
birds with 1 stone. My port engine's lower unit was defective from the
get go and was replaced. It did not break or strand me, but it hasn't
left me with great feelings having purchased new engines that are having
more problems than my old ones.

I was able to get the boat on plane & run in @ 36 mph on one engine.
That was a surprise to me as I was pushing the one engine @ 4700 rpm. I
did not want to take chances with the troubled engine, besides the
engine would go into "safe" mode & prevent running it.

I have not been happy with all of the problems I have encountered. The
service is great & they are quick to resolve issues. I just don't like
having issues. I see that there really is a common list of issues alot
of people are having. I don't get to use the boat that frequently & it
when you experience problems with updates & breakdowns every other time
it is used.
My engines have 70 hours on them by the way.

I still have hope and I do hope I have worked out my engine's issues.