I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

From the report:

New boats sold by dealers for the 3nd Quarter were up 6.6 percent
The dollar value of new boats sold by dealers during the quarter was
$110M, up from $93M, an increase of 18.5 percent
3rd Quarter New Boat Sales by Dealers (Units Sold Comparison)
2002: 2,430
2003: 2,828
2004: 2,935
2005: 3,116
2006: 3,321
Overall boat sales (combined new and used) were up 0.9 percent during
the quarter totaling $260M

**

I can get into the specifics as far as number of boats in various size
groups, if anybody has an interest, but it is significant that unit
volume was only up 6.6 percent but dollar volume was up 18.5%. Clearly,
some portion of that is due to retail price increases but it also
indicates that people buying boats in record numbers are buying more
expensive models. I would estimate that with 3321 new boat units
selling for $110M the average sale has to be around $30,000. That
doesn't sound like much; but it's important to remember that this
report includes dinghies, cartop boats,
and a lot of other vessels that sell in big volumes for cheap numbers.
Upper end boats have to be selling well to bring the average up to
$30,000.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Why the need to politicize this Chuck?

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Why the need to politicize this Chuck?

It's called economics, Jim.
You do realize that typically, fuel prices do tend to go downward close
to an election, don't you?

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Why the need to politicize this Chuck?

????????????

Is there some question about, or is it somehow a matter of "political
opinion", that fuel prices
are dropping and that an election is imminent?

It's a simple statement of fact that 3rd quarter boat sales were strong
despite the fact that for most of the 3rd quarter there was no relief
from high fuel prices in sight.

It's also a simple fact that for generations incumbent politicians from
both parties have "jawboned" to the best of their ability to frame the
economy in the best possible light
pior to a major election.

Why the need to pull one line out of context and ignore the rest of the
message?

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Why the need to politicize this Chuck?

????????????

Is there some question about, or is it somehow a matter of "political
opinion", that fuel prices
are dropping and that an election is imminent?

Give me a break. You obviously inferred (and made similar comments about it
in the past) that GWB and the Republicans somehow and mysteriously "caused"
the drop in fuel prices conveniently just before the election.



It's a simple statement of fact that 3rd quarter boat sales were strong
despite the fact that for most of the 3rd quarter there was no relief
from high fuel prices in sight.

It's also a simple fact that for generations incumbent politicians from
both parties have "jawboned" to the best of their ability to frame the
economy in the best possible light
pior to a major election.

Why the need to pull one line out of context and ignore the rest of the
message?


Because of your need to include a political comment in your otherwise non
political post about boating. In fact, some could say your comment was
"controversial" and was nothing more than a troll. ;-)

Just asking you to practice what you preach Chuck.

Let's move on.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Why the need to politicize this Chuck?

????????????

Is there some question about, or is it somehow a matter of "political
opinion", that fuel prices
are dropping and that an election is imminent?

It's a simple statement of fact that 3rd quarter boat sales were strong
despite the fact that for most of the 3rd quarter there was no relief
from high fuel prices in sight.

It's also a simple fact that for generations incumbent politicians from
both parties have "jawboned" to the best of their ability to frame the
economy in the best possible light
pior to a major election.

Why the need to pull one line out of context and ignore the rest of the
message?


From boatsafe on boating safety classes:

"This course covers basic boating safety concepts that you need to know if
you intend to participate in water sport activities. It has been designed by
marine educators to provide information to people who might not otherwise
have the opportunity to receive it. You can progress at your own pace and on
your own time schedule. Any questions you have will be promptly answered by
email. Your progress through the review quizzes is monitored by a boating
instructor who offers comments and clarification when necessary. Please feel
free to ask questions and make suggestions throughout the course."

DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY DEMOCRATS.

"This Basic Boating Safety Course gives only the minimum requirements for
safety equipment and general information. To obtain a greater knowledge of
boating skills and seamanship we encourage you to attend more in-depth
boating courses."

For more information go to:http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/boating/
================================================== ======

Get it?

JimH wrote:


DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY DEMOCRATS.

"This Basic Boating Safety Course gives only the minimum requirements for
safety equipment and general information. To obtain a greater knowledge of
boating skills and seamanship we encourage you to attend more in-depth
boating courses."

For more information go to:http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/boating/
================================================== ======

Get it?

Omigosh, JimH! Are you suggesting that my casual observation that fuel
prices have been declining as the election approaches is some sort of
statement advising people not to vote for any Republicans?

How in the world did you arrive at that interpretation? After all,
aren't the Republicans overseeing this current, miraculous, nosedive in
fuel prices? I would think the average American would be grateful to
the Republicans for reducing the price of gas. Right?

You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

On 25 Oct 2006 22:36:13 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

No, he's just barking - period. Another serious non-contributor.

Chuck Gould wrote:
JimH wrote:


DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY DEMOCRATS.

"This Basic Boating Safety Course gives only the minimum requirements for
safety equipment and general information. To obtain a greater knowledge of
boating skills and seamanship we encourage you to attend more in-depth
boating courses."

For more information go to:http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/boating/
================================================== ======

Get it?

Omigosh, JimH! Are you suggesting that my casual observation that fuel
prices have been declining as the election approaches is some sort of
statement advising people not to vote for any Republicans?

How in the world did you arrive at that interpretation? After all,
aren't the Republicans overseeing this current, miraculous, nosedive in
fuel prices? I would think the average American would be grateful to
the Republicans for reducing the price of gas. Right?

You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

As usual!

On 25 Oct 2006 07:34:25 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Funny you should blame the roll back on the election season. CNN, normally
not your most 'conservatively biased' network, had a short special on
either last night or the night before.

Bottom line - the administration had *nothing* to do with the dropping of
oil prices.

Of course, you've managed to slip a little political statement into your
'boating' post. But, it's wrong.