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I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

From the report:

New boats sold by dealers for the 3nd Quarter were up 6.6 percent
The dollar value of new boats sold by dealers during the quarter was
$110M, up from $93M, an increase of 18.5 percent
3rd Quarter New Boat Sales by Dealers (Units Sold Comparison)
2002: 2,430
2003: 2,828
2004: 2,935
2005: 3,116
2006: 3,321
Overall boat sales (combined new and used) were up 0.9 percent during
the quarter totaling $260M

**

I can get into the specifics as far as number of boats in various size
groups, if anybody has an interest, but it is significant that unit
volume was only up 6.6 percent but dollar volume was up 18.5%. Clearly,
some portion of that is due to retail price increases but it also
indicates that people buying boats in record numbers are buying more
expensive models. I would estimate that with 3321 new boat units
selling for $110M the average sale has to be around $30,000. That
doesn't sound like much; but it's important to remember that this
report includes dinghies, cartop boats,
and a lot of other vessels that sell in big volumes for cheap numbers.
Upper end boats have to be selling well to bring the average up to
$30,000.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Why the need to politicize this Chuck?

Fuel price, shmuel price.....boats selling at record numbers in Wash state
 

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Why the need to politicize this Chuck?

It's called economics, Jim.
You do realize that typically, fuel prices do tend to go downward close
to an election, don't you?

Fuel price, shmuel price.....boats selling at record numbers in Wash state
 

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Why the need to politicize this Chuck?

????????????

Is there some question about, or is it somehow a matter of "political
opinion", that fuel prices
are dropping and that an election is imminent?

It's a simple statement of fact that 3rd quarter boat sales were strong
despite the fact that for most of the 3rd quarter there was no relief
from high fuel prices in sight.

It's also a simple fact that for generations incumbent politicians from
both parties have "jawboned" to the best of their ability to frame the
economy in the best possible light
pior to a major election.

Why the need to pull one line out of context and ignore the rest of the
message?

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Why the need to politicize this Chuck?

????????????

Is there some question about, or is it somehow a matter of "political
opinion", that fuel prices
are dropping and that an election is imminent?

Give me a break. You obviously inferred (and made similar comments about it
in the past) that GWB and the Republicans somehow and mysteriously "caused"
the drop in fuel prices conveniently just before the election.



It's a simple statement of fact that 3rd quarter boat sales were strong
despite the fact that for most of the 3rd quarter there was no relief
from high fuel prices in sight.

It's also a simple fact that for generations incumbent politicians from
both parties have "jawboned" to the best of their ability to frame the
economy in the best possible light
pior to a major election.

Why the need to pull one line out of context and ignore the rest of the
message?


Because of your need to include a political comment in your otherwise non
political post about boating. In fact, some could say your comment was
"controversial" and was nothing more than a troll. ;-)

Just asking you to practice what you preach Chuck.

Let's move on.

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On 25 Oct 2006 07:34:25 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Funny you should blame the roll back on the election season. CNN, normally
not your most 'conservatively biased' network, had a short special on
either last night or the night before.

Bottom line - the administration had *nothing* to do with the dropping of
oil prices.

Of course, you've managed to slip a little political statement into your
'boating' post. But, it's wrong.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 25 Oct 2006 07:34:25 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I can get into the specifics as far as number of boats in various size
groups, if anybody has an interest,

Me do. :)
--

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

New boat sales:

The greatest change in unit volume was in the smallest boat category of
under 10 -feet.
3Q05 was 871 units, 3Q06 was 975 units.

11-14 feet was just a bit stronger 3Q06 than 3Q05, up three units to
462

15-18 feet was off 83 units, down from 1139 to 1056

19-22 feet was up 59 units, from 1044 to 1103

23-26 feet was up slightly, from 277 to 281

27-30 feet was off just slightly, dropping from 63 units 3Q05 to 53
units 3Q06

31-34 feet may have picked up some of the buyers dropped in the
previous category, as boats in this range were up from 27 units to 31

Numbers were off a bit in the 34-50 foot range, but not significantly.
(The portion of the market over 34 feet only represents a small
percentage of total new boat sales.

35-38 feet, down 4 units to 22

39-42 feet, down 2 units to 17

43-46 feet, down 2 units to 6

47-50 feet, down 4 units to 7

More of the larger boat categories were up, rather than down.

51-54 feet, up 2 units to 5

55-58 feet, up 2 units to 5

59-62 feet, dropped from 2 units 3Q05 to 1 unit 3Q06

63-66 feet, up an infinite percentage. 3 units sold 3Q06, no sales in
this category last year

67-70 feet, one sale in 3Q06, vs. 2 sales 3Q05

Over 70-feet, same as last year, 1 unit sold in the 3rd quarter.


Over all categories, new boat sales were up from 3955 to 4029, (best
3rd quarter in a long time) and dollar volume was up by a much greater
percentage.


Under propulsion: (this categoory is notoriously inaccurate, as some
sailboat dealers check off "inboard" or "outboard" depending upon the
type of auxiliary power the boat is rigged with)

Outdrive units: 1150

Inboard: 664

Jet drive: 856

Outboards: 1293

Sailboats: 27

"unknown": 39

(Balance would be rowing or paddle boats)

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 25 Oct 2006 07:34:25 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Funny you should blame the roll back on the election season. CNN, normally
not your most 'conservatively biased' network, had a short special on
either last night or the night before.

Bottom line - the administration had *nothing* to do with the dropping of
oil prices.

Of course, you've managed to slip a little political statement into your
'boating' post. But, it's wrong.

Yep!

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JohnH wrote:

How we do jump to conclusions!

I made no political statement of any kind.

However, if some liberal person decided to climb my frame for posting a
"rosey" report on the health of the economy and therefore promoting or
defending the current administration- he or she would have just as much
basis to call this a pro-Bush political post as you and JimH have to
say it was an anti-Bush political post.

Fact is, it wasn't a political post.

Now, one could turn it into a political post by noting that John Snow's
old futures trading firm
probably contributed 50-cent to last summer's run up in fuel prices by
buying up oil futures at a lot of crazy prices at the same time the
government was filling the strategic reserve. That same point would
continue with the observation that selling those same futures, at the
same time the government is releasing crude from the strategic reserve,
makes a 50-cent difference in the other direction- or a swing of about
a buck a gallon.

OR! To Be Entirely Fair!...............

One could turn it into a political post by noting that Bush's economic
policies have been so beneficial to the US that despite staggering
prices at the fuel pump, less-than-encouraging news on the Iraq and
Afghanistan foreign policy initiatives, rising interest rates,
stabilized or falling home prices, etc etc etc......people still have
enough throw away money to go out and buy a new boat.

So, it wasn't a political post. If it had been, you have no evidence,
(within that specific post), which side of the argument I would have
championed. (I'll concede that my politics are probably well enough
known that you could make a safe and educated guess).

So, my conservative friends, please consider that incidental remark
something less than the
"meat" of the post and rejoice that even a person with my particular
political perspective knows a robust economy (at least in this region)
when he sees one. If you want to give credit for that economy to the
currently sitting president and his congressional majority, that's OK
with me; heck, I once heard about a guy who fell into an outhouse and
found a Rolex. :-)

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On 25 Oct 2006 12:33:18 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

How we do jump to conclusions!

I made no political statement of any kind.

However, if some liberal person decided to climb my frame for posting a
"rosey" report on the health of the economy and therefore promoting or
defending the current administration- he or she would have just as much
basis to call this a pro-Bush political post as you and JimH have to
say it was an anti-Bush political post.

Fact is, it wasn't a political post.

You are correct! It was not a political post. It was a boating post with a
little political jibe unnecessarily thrown in.

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On 25 Oct 2006 12:33:18 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

How we do jump to conclusions!

I made no political statement of any kind.

However, if some liberal person decided to climb my frame for posting a
"rosey" report on the health of the economy and therefore promoting or
defending the current administration- he or she would have just as much
basis to call this a pro-Bush political post as you and JimH have to
say it was an anti-Bush political post.

Fact is, it wasn't a political post.

Now, one could turn it into a political post by noting that John Snow's
old futures trading firm
probably contributed 50-cent to last summer's run up in fuel prices by
buying up oil futures at a lot of crazy prices at the same time the
government was filling the strategic reserve. That same point would
continue with the observation that selling those same futures, at the
same time the government is releasing crude from the strategic reserve,
makes a 50-cent difference in the other direction- or a swing of about
a buck a gallon.

OR! To Be Entirely Fair!...............

One could turn it into a political post by noting that Bush's economic
policies have been so beneficial to the US that despite staggering
prices at the fuel pump, less-than-encouraging news on the Iraq and
Afghanistan foreign policy initiatives, rising interest rates,
stabilized or falling home prices, etc etc etc......people still have
enough throw away money to go out and buy a new boat.

So, it wasn't a political post. If it had been, you have no evidence,
(within that specific post), which side of the argument I would have
championed. (I'll concede that my politics are probably well enough
known that you could make a safe and educated guess).

So, my conservative friends, please consider that incidental remark
something less than the
"meat" of the post and rejoice that even a person with my particular
political perspective knows a robust economy (at least in this region)
when he sees one. If you want to give credit for that economy to the
currently sitting president and his congressional majority, that's OK
with me; heck, I once heard about a guy who fell into an outhouse and
found a Rolex. :-)

ps. I don't receive jimmh's posts.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 25 Oct 2006 11:50:20 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

New boat sales:

The greatest change in unit volume was in the smallest boat category of
under 10 -feet.
3Q05 was 871 units, 3Q06 was 975 units

Thanks - interesting.

Is this nationwide?
--

I don't have figures that are as current or as reliable for the entire
country. The WA state numbers are based upon sales reported to the DMV
for boat registration purposes, and the data is collected by a
non-profit organization call Sea Grant. I have a strong faith that the
WA state numbers in this report are very accurate.

Even though we talk about a "national" economy, most of the time it's
more accurately a connected series of regional economies. Up here in
the NW we tend to be contrarian- we often do pretty well when a lot of
the rest of the country is cooling off, and we have been known to be on
our collective enomonic butts around here while everybody else is
cutting a phat hog.

An equally accurate national survey would probably find pockets like
ours where boat sales are holding up fairly well or even increasing in
most categories. There may some places still relying on the ever
dwindling industrially based and manufacturing economic model where
there is less reason for optimism and a bit more "caution" in play.

Few people will splurge for an expensive luxury, like a new boat, if
they feel apprehensive about future income and employment. The majority
of people I encounter every day are not very apprehensive.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

He then said:


I made no political statement of any kind.

However, if some liberal person decided to climb my frame for posting a
"rosey" report on the health of the economy and therefore promoting or
defending the current administration- he or she would have just as much
basis to call this a pro-Bush political post as you and JimH have to
say it was an anti-Bush political post.

Now, one could turn it into a political post by noting that John Snow's
old futures trading firm
probably contributed 50-cent to last summer's run up in fuel prices by
buying up oil futures at a lot of crazy prices at the same time the
government was filling the strategic reserve. That same point would
continue with the observation that selling those same futures, at the
same time the government is releasing crude from the strategic reserve,
makes a 50-cent difference in the other direction- or a swing of about
a buck a gallon.

OR! To Be Entirely Fair!...............

One could turn it into a political post by noting that Bush's economic
policies have been so beneficial to the US that despite staggering
prices at the fuel pump, less-than-encouraging news on the Iraq and
Afghanistan foreign policy initiatives, rising interest rates,
stabilized or falling home prices, etc etc etc......people still have
enough throw away money to go out and buy a new boat.

If you want to give credit for that economy to the
currently sitting president and his congressional majority, that's OK
with me; heck, I once heard about a guy who fell into an outhouse and
found a Rolex. :-)


ROTF!! I believe you said you were once a used car salesman. Based on the
spin you just posted you must have made a fortune during that span of your
professional career.

Time to move on, but please try to practice what you preach Chuck. ;-)

And thanks for the good laugh!

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JimH wrote:


ROTF!! I believe you said you were once a used car salesman. Based on the
spin you just posted you must have made a fortune during that span of your
professional career.

Guilty as charged. As well as a new car salesperson, sales manager, GM,
and managing partner in a new car dealership. I was fairly good at the
trade, and "fortune" is a relative term. :-)




Time to move on, but please try to practice what you preach Chuck. ;-)

And thanks for the good laugh!

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I guess it just goes to show that we boaters, (who pursue a pastime
that doesn't make any financial sense) will not be deterred when a
single element, such as the price of fuel, makes less sense than ever.

It's interesting to note that these figures are for the 3rd quarter;
before the election season rollback of gas and diesel prices really
began.

Why the need to politicize this Chuck?

????????????

Is there some question about, or is it somehow a matter of "political
opinion", that fuel prices
are dropping and that an election is imminent?

It's a simple statement of fact that 3rd quarter boat sales were strong
despite the fact that for most of the 3rd quarter there was no relief
from high fuel prices in sight.

It's also a simple fact that for generations incumbent politicians from
both parties have "jawboned" to the best of their ability to frame the
economy in the best possible light
pior to a major election.

Why the need to pull one line out of context and ignore the rest of the
message?


From boatsafe on boating safety classes:

"This course covers basic boating safety concepts that you need to know if
you intend to participate in water sport activities. It has been designed by
marine educators to provide information to people who might not otherwise
have the opportunity to receive it. You can progress at your own pace and on
your own time schedule. Any questions you have will be promptly answered by
email. Your progress through the review quizzes is monitored by a boating
instructor who offers comments and clarification when necessary. Please feel
free to ask questions and make suggestions throughout the course."

DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY DEMOCRATS.

"This Basic Boating Safety Course gives only the minimum requirements for
safety equipment and general information. To obtain a greater knowledge of
boating skills and seamanship we encourage you to attend more in-depth
boating courses."

For more information go to:http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/boating/
================================================== ======

Get it?

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 25 Oct 2006 12:33:18 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

How we do jump to conclusions!

I made no political statement of any kind.

However, if some liberal person decided to climb my frame for posting a
"rosey" report on the health of the economy and therefore promoting or
defending the current administration- he or she would have just as much
basis to call this a pro-Bush political post as you and JimH have to
say it was an anti-Bush political post.

Fact is, it wasn't a political post.

You are correct! It was not a political post. It was a boating post with a
little political jibe unnecessarily thrown in.

Actually he was wrong. Referring to his conservative friends. At least
Bassy is not conservative. And not sure about the friendship part either.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 25 Oct 2006 11:50:20 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

New boat sales:

The greatest change in unit volume was in the smallest boat category of
under 10 -feet.
3Q05 was 871 units, 3Q06 was 975 units

Thanks - interesting.

Is this nationwide?
--

I don't have figures that are as current or as reliable for the entire
country. The WA state numbers are based upon sales reported to the DMV
for boat registration purposes, and the data is collected by a
non-profit organization call Sea Grant. I have a strong faith that the
WA state numbers in this report are very accurate.

Even though we talk about a "national" economy, most of the time it's
more accurately a connected series of regional economies. Up here in
the NW we tend to be contrarian- we often do pretty well when a lot of
the rest of the country is cooling off, and we have been known to be on
our collective enomonic butts around here while everybody else is
cutting a phat hog.

An equally accurate national survey would probably find pockets like
ours where boat sales are holding up fairly well or even increasing in
most categories. There may some places still relying on the ever
dwindling industrially based and manufacturing economic model where
there is less reason for optimism and a bit more "caution" in play.

Few people will splurge for an expensive luxury, like a new boat, if
they feel apprehensive about future income and employment. The majority
of people I encounter every day are not very apprehensive.


Seeing the change in under 10'. Do they report kayak sales to the DMV?
That is one of the few catagories of boat under 10' where there would be
large numbers of sales.

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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:46:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Seeing the change in under 10'. Do they report kayak sales to the DMV?
That is one of the few catagories of boat under 10' where there would be
large numbers of sales.

I was guessing inflatables with an outboard. Most states do not
require registration for unpowered craft.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:46:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Seeing the change in under 10'. Do they report kayak sales to the DMV?
That is one of the few catagories of boat under 10' where there would be
large numbers of sales.

I was guessing inflatables with an outboard. Most states do not
require registration for unpowered craft.

And that is the case in Washington. If you don't hang a motor on it,
you can have a 60-foot rowboat and pay no registration fees.

PWC's are included in the "under 10-foot" category, but I have no
evidence that PWC sales are up. A lot of people say, "Been there, done
that," and the glitz is now off the fad.

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JimH wrote:


DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY DEMOCRATS.

"This Basic Boating Safety Course gives only the minimum requirements for
safety equipment and general information. To obtain a greater knowledge of
boating skills and seamanship we encourage you to attend more in-depth
boating courses."

For more information go to:http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/boating/
================================================== ======

Get it?

Omigosh, JimH! Are you suggesting that my casual observation that fuel
prices have been declining as the election approaches is some sort of
statement advising people not to vote for any Republicans?

How in the world did you arrive at that interpretation? After all,
aren't the Republicans overseeing this current, miraculous, nosedive in
fuel prices? I would think the average American would be grateful to
the Republicans for reducing the price of gas. Right?

You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

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On 25 Oct 2006 22:36:13 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

No, he's just barking - period. Another serious non-contributor.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On 25 Oct 2006 22:36:13 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

No, he's just barking - period. Another serious non-contributor.


I agree. He is trying his best to stir up some ****, Chuck's one line
comment concerning the election and the effect on gas prices, wither
correct or incorrect, was not meant to start a political discussion or
bash anyone or their politics, but to discuss the effect gas prices have
on boat sales.

He slams Chuck, and then tells Chuck to "drop it".

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 25 Oct 2006 22:27:48 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:46:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Seeing the change in under 10'. Do they report kayak sales to the DMV?
That is one of the few catagories of boat under 10' where there would
be
large numbers of sales.

I was guessing inflatables with an outboard. Most states do not
require registration for unpowered craft.

And that is the case in Washington. If you don't hang a motor on it,
you can have a 60-foot rowboat and pay no registration fees.

Same in CT. Although I've never figured out if you have to pay excise
or property tax on an unregistered 110' sail boat. If it's not
registered, in this state anyway, the town doesn't know you own it.

PWC's are included in the "under 10-foot" category, but I have no
evidence that PWC sales are up. A lot of people say, "Been there, done
that," and the glitz is now off the fad.

Couldn't prove that by me. I get buzzed by those damn things all the
time and most of them look pretty freakin' new to me.
--

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

I was thinking that the DMV gets a copy of all the sales. you just do not
have to register it, if it is under a certain length and no motor.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:25:10 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On 25 Oct 2006 22:27:48 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:46:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Seeing the change in under 10'. Do they report kayak sales to the
DMV?
That is one of the few catagories of boat under 10' where there would
be
large numbers of sales.

I was guessing inflatables with an outboard. Most states do not
require registration for unpowered craft.

And that is the case in Washington. If you don't hang a motor on it,
you can have a 60-foot rowboat and pay no registration fees.

Same in CT. Although I've never figured out if you have to pay excise
or property tax on an unregistered 110' sail boat. If it's not
registered, in this state anyway, the town doesn't know you own it.

PWC's are included in the "under 10-foot" category, but I have no
evidence that PWC sales are up. A lot of people say, "Been there, done
that," and the glitz is now off the fad.

Couldn't prove that by me. I get buzzed by those damn things all the
time and most of them look pretty freakin' new to me.

I was thinking that the DMV gets a copy of all the sales. you just do not
have to register it, if it is under a certain length and no motor.

I can't say that's true either. What if you buy the boat out of
state?

As I understand it, only vessels with engines have to be registered in
this state. If it doesn't have a engine, it doesn't have to be
registered and all the reporting to the town goes through the DMV.

In fact, I don't believe it's like a car either. When I bought my
Ranger, for example, I had to go to the Registry to have it registered
as there was no previous record of it being in this state. Same with
the Halman - it's not registered in this state either. And now that I
think about that (I know - I'm old, thinking can be a slow process) I
know of several boats in my old marina that weren't registered because
there weren't any engines on the boat.
--

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

In California, there is a length limit on the no motor, not registration
thing. Otherwise, you would not have to register your America's cup boat,
and the state would not like losing taxes.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On 25 Oct 2006 22:36:13 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

No, he's just barking - period. Another serious non-contributor.

Whatever.

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Chuck Gould wrote:
JimH wrote:


DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY DEMOCRATS.

"This Basic Boating Safety Course gives only the minimum requirements for
safety equipment and general information. To obtain a greater knowledge of
boating skills and seamanship we encourage you to attend more in-depth
boating courses."

For more information go to:http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/boating/
================================================== ======

Get it?

Omigosh, JimH! Are you suggesting that my casual observation that fuel
prices have been declining as the election approaches is some sort of
statement advising people not to vote for any Republicans?

How in the world did you arrive at that interpretation? After all,
aren't the Republicans overseeing this current, miraculous, nosedive in
fuel prices? I would think the average American would be grateful to
the Republicans for reducing the price of gas. Right?

You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

As usual!

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JimH wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On 25 Oct 2006 22:36:13 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

No, he's just barking - period. Another serious non-contributor.

Whatever.

What an intelligent and interesting come back............
Yeah....that's it.....

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basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:

On 25 Oct 2006 22:36:13 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

No, he's just barking - period. Another serious non-contributor.

Whatever.


What an intelligent and interesting come back............
Yeah....that's it.....


You really should read your posts before you reply.

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"Dan" wrote in message
link.net...
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:

On 25 Oct 2006 22:36:13 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

No, he's just barking - period. Another serious non-contributor.

Whatever.


What an intelligent and interesting come back............
Yeah....that's it.....


You really should read your posts before you reply.

ROTF!

So Kevin still continues to sniff every post I make. I thought that boy
finally learned his lesson but obviously I was wrong.

Maybe I should take him out of my KF (the non boater Reggie stays there so
he can play with himself) so I can once again get my daily laughs. ;-)