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The problem will be in finding a frame mount hitch that can handle
something close to enough weight.

What frame?

Eisboch


On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame" to
attach a receiver hitch.


Your '68 Charger *had* a frame. Most new cars don't. I think the last
full-framed big car is (was) the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln towncars that
are being phased out.

Eisboch


Notice the quotes? Unitbody frame and I build a sandwich of steel plates to
spread the load.

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The problem will be in finding a frame mount hitch that can handle
something close to enough weight.

What frame?

Eisboch


On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame" to
attach a receiver hitch.


Your '68 Charger *had* a frame. Most new cars don't. I think the last
full-framed big car is (was) the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln towncars that
are being phased out.

Eisboch


Notice the quotes? Unitbody frame and I build a sandwich of steel plates
to spread the load.


Hafta go check .... be right back.

Eisboch

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What the heck, I still think it's worth a try. Think of the fun
involved... and it might just work out OK. Where's your sense of
adventure.... on the other guy's money?

Butch

We could sell tickets to witness his first attempt. Ramp shows are always a
lot of fun.

Eisboch

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On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame"
to attach a receiver hitch.


Your '68 Charger *had* a frame. Most new cars don't. I think the last
full-framed big car is (was) the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln towncars that
are being phased out.

Eisboch


Notice the quotes? Unitbody frame and I build a sandwich of steel plates
to spread the load.


Hafta go check .... be right back.

Eisboch


I see what you mean. It has a frame of sorts ... but not like a real, full
frame. Sorta ends before it gets to the back. Took some pictures but the
underside of the Lee is rough. No rot, but it has not been restored yet.

Eisboch

Jim, wrote:
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is
less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?


While you can usually get away with substantially over the rated towing
capacity for something short like that, I suspect 5,000 lbs is WAY more
than that car should tow, you may well end up with the rear bumper
scraping on the ground or the hitch broken off just from the tongue
weight. If that doesn't happen the trailer and boat could easily pull
the car back into the water, there's no way that car weighs anywhere
near 5,000 lbs, probably more like half that.

With a sufficiently large and sturdy vehicle, a little 4 cylinder could
do it, but power is only a small portion of the equation.

Got any friends with a truck?

Don,
Why don't Canadians mount their tow bars onto the frame?

Why would anyone use a bumper hitch on a F150?


I don't know why anyone would use a bumper hitch on anything, I don't
even think they're legal in a lot of areas.

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On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame"
to attach a receiver hitch.


Your '68 Charger *had* a frame. Most new cars don't. I think the last
full-framed big car is (was) the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln towncars
that are being phased out.

Eisboch


Notice the quotes? Unitbody frame and I build a sandwich of steel
plates to spread the load.


Hafta go check .... be right back.

Eisboch


I see what you mean. It has a frame of sorts ... but not like a real,
full frame. Sorta ends before it gets to the back. Took some pictures
but the underside of the Lee is rough. No rot, but it has not been
restored yet.

Eisboch


Actually built some narrow plates to go inside the folded sheetmetal frame.
Can not exactly remember how I did it. But towed a 2800# vette on a tandem
trailer with spare wheels. Worst part of the beautiful POS was the lack of
brakes 10" drums, and lack of radiator size. Could not use the AC on real
hot days.

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Actually built some narrow plates to go inside the folded sheetmetal
frame. Can not exactly remember how I did it. But towed a 2800# vette on
a tandem trailer with spare wheels. Worst part of the beautiful POS was
the lack of brakes 10" drums, and lack of radiator size. Could not use
the AC on real hot days.


Don't know about the '68 models but in '69 the R/T's that had either the 426
or the 440 HO had disks on the front and an oversized, 26" radiator. They
were part of what was called the "Hemi Package". The brakes were the most
difficult items to get when we were re-doing the front end. They are big,
four piston caliper types that are very hard to find and few shops can get
parts to rebuild them. I had called Smith Bros. Restorations who
recommended upgrading everything ... rotors, spindles and calipers to those
from the readily available 1970 and later models that were two piston types.
We lucked out though after six weeks of searching found a new set of
rotors, four piston calipers and pads of the original type. Got them from a
small, off the wall garage in Georgia.

Eisboch

Cripes, man!

The boat rig weighs about as much as the car!

The frame of the boat trailer is stronger than the frame of the car.
Woah! Wait a second. The car HAS NO FRAME! well, maybe a "sub" frame,
but doing what you want to do is not a good idea.

My 18 ft. ChrisCraft is on a single axle frame, and I pull it behind a
302 v-8 powered '89 Mercury Grand Marquis.

At least it has some power, and a full frame, and some brakes.


you should really reconsider what you're planning.



Jim, wrote:
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is
less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?

Of the 4, Only the driver counts as a potential loss.
JR

Harry Krause wrote:


If the ramp is wet, or covered in green slime, you, the boat, the
trailer and your Chevy are likely to slide into the drink.


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