Not to put too fine a point on it, but it seems like there's a conflict when
wearing a two-piece (pants + shirt) outfit under a bag suit that has a relief
zipper.

No belt on the pants and they tend to fall down inside the suit.

Belt or cinch strap on the pants, and now the relief zipper isn't good for
anything.

Anybody found a solution?

Suspenders?
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PeteCresswell

(PeteCresswell) wrote:

Anybody found a solution?

Your pants don't have a zipper or flap?

Personally, I greatly prefer a one-piece liner. They're available in different
weights from summer undergarments to winter fleece. How about putting some
buttons or Velcro on the pants and top to hold them together? If you add
Velcro, put the hook side facing out.

Mike

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:

Not to put too fine a point on it, but it seems like there's a conflict when
wearing a two-piece (pants + shirt) outfit under a bag suit that has a relief
zipper.

No belt on the pants and they tend to fall down inside the suit.

Belt or cinch strap on the pants, and now the relief zipper isn't good for
anything.

Anybody found a solution?

Suspenders?
--
PeteCresswell

Not to put too fine a point on it,
say I'm the only bee in your bonnet TMBG : )

JAM

Per Michael Daly:
Your pants don't have a zipper or flap?

Not so far. The couple pair of fleece pants I have don't have either.

Next time I go shopping, though, that'll be on the "Must" list.

Personally, I greatly prefer a one-piece liner. They're available in different
weights from summer undergarments to winter fleece.

Got any brands in mind? Do you reacal what the term was to refer to them?
"Union Suit"? "Farmer John"? "Coverall"?

How about putting some
buttons or Velcro on the pants and top to hold them together? If you add
Velcro, put the hook side facing out.

My sense is that wouldn't work so well given the stretchability of the shirts
I'm wearing now.

Sounds to me like 3 coveralls with a fly opening like men's briefs would
probably do the trick: thin, medium, and heavier.
--
PeteCresswell

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:

Got any brands in mind? Do you reacal what the term was to refer to them?
"Union Suit"? "Farmer John"? "Coverall"?

Union Suit is the winter-underwear term in the USA (aren't you in the UK?)
while Drysuit Liner is the newish boating term. Look for my post yesterday
about the LL Bean $49 union suit. It comes with buttons. Drysuit liners
usually come with 2-way zippers so you can easily open them after opening
your drysuit relief (or lower part of the entry) zipper.

The main advantages of a one-piece liner are that you avoid the cold spot
on your lower back, and the uncomfortable bunched-up feeling in the front.

I can honestly say that I've never had a problem with my fleece pants or
underwear falling down inside my dry suit. Have you actually
experienced this or are you just worried about something you read? If
the latter, I'd say you're worrying about nothing, since not only is
there not any inherent problem, but you can still pull your pants up
from outside the suit and/or use a drawstring waist through the relief
zipper.

Per Brian Nystrom:
. Have you actually
experienced this or are you just worried about something you read? If
the latter, I'd say you're worrying about nothing, since not only is
there not any inherent problem, but you can still pull your pants up
from outside the suit

I'm constantly doing that (pulling the things up through the suit material) and
it's getting really old...
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PeteCresswell

(PeteCresswell) wrote:

Got any brands in mind?

Drysuit makers sell them - I have Stolquist. Kokatat makes them as well.

"Union Suit"?

That or drysuit liner.

Union suit is likely to get you a generic one-piece undergarment. The only
possible difference is in some details. For example, the ribbed cuffs on my
one-piece are long and snug to fit under the latez cuff seals - a bulky fleece
sleeve at that point might leave you with a cold wrist as the fabric is pushed
away by the seal.

BTW - I've also worn my fleece drysuit liner as jammies when winter camping.
Toasty!

Mike