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JohnH October 13th 06 05:01 PM

Speaking of cars...
 
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:57:09 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

My lovely wife informed me the other day that she "really likes" the new
little Mustangs and might want to buy one.

She's looking at a 2007 "V6 Premium," with the 4 liter V6, 5-speed auto,
and anti-lock brakes with traction control, and a bunch of other
accessories. Our local dealer is more than willing to "make a deal."

Any thoughts about this vehicle as an "everyday car?" Most of my wife's
driving is suburban, with very few trips of more than, say, 50 miles.

I drove such a vehicle recently and thought the power-brakes-handling
were more than adequate. Any ideas about gas mileage, reliability, that
sort of thing?

I'd prefer she buy a new top of the line Toyota, but she wants something
sportier.

Wimmins!


The V6 does not have the suspension, engine, or handling of the V8.
Comfort-wise, I wouldn't recommend it for anything over about 25 miles. My
neighbor's wife is trying to figure out the best way to get rid of her V6.
If you're really interested, I'll put you in touch.

I got 23 mpg with the V8. The V6 should do better.

Steve October 13th 06 11:53 PM

Speaking of cars...
 
I have a '99 Ford Ranger with 4.0 L V-6; V-6's are usually jokes, but I have
320,000 miles on it with no serious engine work at all; starts and runs like
new, uses no oil.

Mustangs are now rice burners, by the way, built by Mazda. Yeah, I know
Mazda is about 40% owned by Ford, but US content is about 35%.

Eisboch October 13th 06 11:57 PM

Speaking of cars...
 

"Steve" wrote in message
news:gNUXg.27372$Go3.3527@dukeread05...
I have a '99 Ford Ranger with 4.0 L V-6; V-6's are usually jokes, but I
have
320,000 miles on it with no serious engine work at all; starts and runs
like
new, uses no oil.

Mustangs are now rice burners, by the way, built by Mazda. Yeah, I know
Mazda is about 40% owned by Ford, but US content is about 35%.


The Ranger is a great little truck. One of Ford's (Mazda's) better
products over the years. Hard to believe the current model dates back to
1982. I've had two of them and both were very reliable, good trucks.

Eisboch



James Sweet October 14th 06 12:17 AM

Speaking of cars...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
news:gNUXg.27372$Go3.3527@dukeread05...

I have a '99 Ford Ranger with 4.0 L V-6; V-6's are usually jokes, but I
have
320,000 miles on it with no serious engine work at all; starts and runs
like
new, uses no oil.

Mustangs are now rice burners, by the way, built by Mazda. Yeah, I know
Mazda is about 40% owned by Ford, but US content is about 35%.



The Ranger is a great little truck. One of Ford's (Mazda's) better
products over the years. Hard to believe the current model dates back to
1982. I've had two of them and both were very reliable, good trucks.

Eisboch




I had one of those too, '88, never ran well but it always ran, never let
me down. I know someone with a '94 with 200K on it and it too runs well
but is *completely* gutless, dunno if it was always like that or if it's
just real tired. Interior is falling apart but then he isn't exactly
anal about taking care of it.

Bert Robbins October 14th 06 01:47 AM

Speaking of cars...
 
Tom Francis wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:17:21 GMT, James Sweet
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
news:gNUXg.27372$Go3.3527@dukeread05...

I have a '99 Ford Ranger with 4.0 L V-6; V-6's are usually jokes, but I
have
320,000 miles on it with no serious engine work at all; starts and runs
like
new, uses no oil.

Mustangs are now rice burners, by the way, built by Mazda. Yeah, I know
Mazda is about 40% owned by Ford, but US content is about 35%.
The Ranger is a great little truck. One of Ford's (Mazda's) better
products over the years. Hard to believe the current model dates back to
1982. I've had two of them and both were very reliable, good trucks.

I had one of those too, '88, never ran well but it always ran, never let
me down. I know someone with a '94 with 200K on it and it too runs well
but is *completely* gutless, dunno if it was always like that or if it's
just real tired. Interior is falling apart but then he isn't exactly
anal about taking care of it.


I think everybody has a Ranger pickup story.

Mine was an '86 four cylinder, four speed that, at last check because
it's still running, had about 280.000 miles on it.

I put a clutch in it and two universal joints.

I beat the crap out of the truck banging it through my woods. I never
changed the oil, never changed the filter and I just took the air
filter out entirely. When I gave it to a local farmer who still uses
it to chase cows out of his pasture and haul feed. The bed rusted off
of it and he put a wood bed on it, boxed the frame a time or two, but
the damn thing keeps running. I think he put a clutch in it

When I owned it, I turned it over at 200,000 and had to take it to the
CT Emissions station - it passed. :)

Just goes to show you - either it's a tough truck or the emissions
testing in this state is a joke.

I think it's the later. :)


I had a '92 with the V6 and auto trans, great truck. Got about 26 MPG
from the day I bought it until 9 years later when I donated it charity
and it was towed away. Hauled 50 bags of 3 cu.ft. mulch many times. Had
the bed filled to overflowing the sides with dirt a couple of times. 1/4
ton truck my ass, it did a hell of a lot better than that.




Reginald P. Smithers III October 14th 06 01:34 PM

Speaking of cars...
 
JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:57:09 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

My lovely wife informed me the other day that she "really likes" the new
little Mustangs and might want to buy one.

She's looking at a 2007 "V6 Premium," with the 4 liter V6, 5-speed auto,
and anti-lock brakes with traction control, and a bunch of other
accessories. Our local dealer is more than willing to "make a deal."

Any thoughts about this vehicle as an "everyday car?" Most of my wife's
driving is suburban, with very few trips of more than, say, 50 miles.

I drove such a vehicle recently and thought the power-brakes-handling
were more than adequate. Any ideas about gas mileage, reliability, that
sort of thing?

I'd prefer she buy a new top of the line Toyota, but she wants something
sportier.

Wimmins!


The V6 does not have the suspension, engine, or handling of the V8.
Comfort-wise, I wouldn't recommend it for anything over about 25 miles. My
neighbor's wife is trying to figure out the best way to get rid of her V6.
If you're really interested, I'll put you in touch.

I got 23 mpg with the V8. The V6 should do better.


Why is the Mustang such an uncomfortable car? Seats? Suspension?
Handling?


JohnH October 14th 06 01:53 PM

Speaking of cars...
 
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:34:16 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:57:09 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

My lovely wife informed me the other day that she "really likes" the new
little Mustangs and might want to buy one.

She's looking at a 2007 "V6 Premium," with the 4 liter V6, 5-speed auto,
and anti-lock brakes with traction control, and a bunch of other
accessories. Our local dealer is more than willing to "make a deal."

Any thoughts about this vehicle as an "everyday car?" Most of my wife's
driving is suburban, with very few trips of more than, say, 50 miles.

I drove such a vehicle recently and thought the power-brakes-handling
were more than adequate. Any ideas about gas mileage, reliability, that
sort of thing?

I'd prefer she buy a new top of the line Toyota, but she wants something
sportier.

Wimmins!


The V6 does not have the suspension, engine, or handling of the V8.
Comfort-wise, I wouldn't recommend it for anything over about 25 miles. My
neighbor's wife is trying to figure out the best way to get rid of her V6.
If you're really interested, I'll put you in touch.

I got 23 mpg with the V8. The V6 should do better.


Why is the Mustang such an uncomfortable car? Seats? Suspension?
Handling?


Seats coupled with a firm suspension. I think it was mostly seat design.
Even though the electric seat adjustments were wide-ranging, I couldn't
find a combination which would take the pain out of my hips.

I just made the same trip in the pickup. No problems whatsoever.

Jack Goff October 14th 06 08:56 PM

Speaking of cars...
 
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:53:16 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:34:16 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:57:09 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

My lovely wife informed me the other day that she "really likes" the new
little Mustangs and might want to buy one.

She's looking at a 2007 "V6 Premium," with the 4 liter V6, 5-speed auto,
and anti-lock brakes with traction control, and a bunch of other
accessories. Our local dealer is more than willing to "make a deal."

Any thoughts about this vehicle as an "everyday car?" Most of my wife's
driving is suburban, with very few trips of more than, say, 50 miles.

I drove such a vehicle recently and thought the power-brakes-handling
were more than adequate. Any ideas about gas mileage, reliability, that
sort of thing?

I'd prefer she buy a new top of the line Toyota, but she wants something
sportier.

Wimmins!

The V6 does not have the suspension, engine, or handling of the V8.
Comfort-wise, I wouldn't recommend it for anything over about 25 miles. My
neighbor's wife is trying to figure out the best way to get rid of her V6.
If you're really interested, I'll put you in touch.

I got 23 mpg with the V8. The V6 should do better.


Why is the Mustang such an uncomfortable car? Seats? Suspension?
Handling?


Seats coupled with a firm suspension. I think it was mostly seat design.
Even though the electric seat adjustments were wide-ranging, I couldn't
find a combination which would take the pain out of my hips.

I just made the same trip in the pickup. No problems whatsoever.


I just got back a couple of days ago from a business trip. I rented
and drove the new model Mustang for the first time. It was a base V6
model. I had a 40 mile trip from the airport to the hotel I was
staying in, and then drove it around town while there.

I thought it was pretty comfortable, as I was able to get the seats to
a position that I liked. The nearly one hour drive didn't bother me
at all. Interior ergonomics were decent.

While I would prefer the GT's V8, I though the V6 had good power and
was fun to drive. They've even tuned the exhaust to make some fairly
throaty sounds when you're getting on it.

The handling was good, but the road feel was just fair. Suspension
thumps and tire noise was pretty loud, but it may have been the cheap
base tires. Ride was fairly bumpy. My Boxster rides far better and
is a much smaller car. Cars don't have to be stiffly suspended to
handle well, but that's the cheapest way to do it.

The interior was pretty cheap, but it was a base model, and a rental.

In the end, if the situation presented itself, I'd own one for general
use. I'd make sure to have something more comfortable for long trips
over a coupe of hours.

Eisboch October 14th 06 09:00 PM

Speaking of cars...
 

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...

I just got back a couple of days ago from a business trip. I rented
and drove the new model Mustang for the first time. It was a base V6
model. I had a 40 mile trip from the airport to the hotel I was
staying in, and then drove it around town while there.

I thought it was pretty comfortable, as I was able to get the seats to
a position that I liked. The nearly one hour drive didn't bother me
at all. Interior ergonomics were decent.

While I would prefer the GT's V8, I though the V6 had good power and
was fun to drive. They've even tuned the exhaust to make some fairly
throaty sounds when you're getting on it.

The handling was good, but the road feel was just fair. Suspension
thumps and tire noise was pretty loud, but it may have been the cheap
base tires. Ride was fairly bumpy. My Boxster rides far better and
is a much smaller car. Cars don't have to be stiffly suspended to
handle well, but that's the cheapest way to do it.

The interior was pretty cheap, but it was a base model, and a rental.

In the end, if the situation presented itself, I'd own one for general
use. I'd make sure to have something more comfortable for long trips
over a coupe of hours.


Would you order it in Passion Pink? :-)

Eisboch



Jack Goff October 14th 06 09:31 PM

Speaking of cars...
 
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:00:07 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
.. .

I just got back a couple of days ago from a business trip. I rented
and drove the new model Mustang for the first time. It was a base V6
model. I had a 40 mile trip from the airport to the hotel I was
staying in, and then drove it around town while there.

I thought it was pretty comfortable, as I was able to get the seats to
a position that I liked. The nearly one hour drive didn't bother me
at all. Interior ergonomics were decent.

While I would prefer the GT's V8, I though the V6 had good power and
was fun to drive. They've even tuned the exhaust to make some fairly
throaty sounds when you're getting on it.

The handling was good, but the road feel was just fair. Suspension
thumps and tire noise was pretty loud, but it may have been the cheap
base tires. Ride was fairly bumpy. My Boxster rides far better and
is a much smaller car. Cars don't have to be stiffly suspended to
handle well, but that's the cheapest way to do it.

The interior was pretty cheap, but it was a base model, and a rental.

In the end, if the situation presented itself, I'd own one for general
use. I'd make sure to have something more comfortable for long trips
over a coupe of hours.


Would you order it in Passion Pink? :-)

Eisboch


Not no, but Hell No!! Have you seen one of the Hertz Shelbys? Black
and gold, very nice looking.


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