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Maynard G. Krebbs October 14th 06 01:44 AM

Speaking of cars...
 
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:34:32 GMT, James Sweet
wrote:




Thanks. I haven't been able to find a "review" with the v6 engine.



I haven't encountered many good V6 engines, I'm not really sure why but
they seem to be much less robust than inline 6's, perhaps it's the
compact shape?

I'm partial to turbocharged inline-4s myself but they're a lot less common.

Of course domestic cars tend to kinda self destruct around 10 years or
100K miles anyway so as long as you plan on replacing it before then you
probably won't run into big problems with the major systems.


Not sure about the V6 engines but most of the inline 6's were
long-stroke torque engines.
It's been awhile since I wrenched for a living so it's probably
different now.
Mark E. Williams

John Wentworth October 14th 06 01:58 AM

Speaking of cars...
 

"James Sweet" wrote in message news:IDTXg.24 Of
course domestic cars tend to kinda self destruct around 10 years or 100K
miles anyway.

Interesting. I'd like to see some real numbers that support that statement;
do you have them? I don't think it's difficult to get well over 100,000
miles out of any modern vehicle if regular maintenance is done. Oh yeah,
boats too.



William Bruce October 14th 06 05:01 AM

Speaking of cars...
 
Harry Krause wrote:
I'm going to do my best to talk my wife into the 268 hp Toyota Camry.


That would be very nice -- an appropriate car for a medical doctor.



Calif Bill October 14th 06 06:15 AM

Speaking of cars...
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"James Sweet" wrote in message
news:oYTXg.33$kG5.13@trndny07...



I'm going to do my best to talk my wife into the 268 hp Toyota Camry.




Doesn't do much good to try and talk a woman into anything when it comes
to cars. Based on my own experience, I'd offer her my advice, then let
her make her own decision, it's her car afterall and if you talk her into
something else you're sure to hear every little nag she has about it for
as long as she owns it and maybe longer. It isn't easy but I've gotten a
lot closer to accepting that the average person is not a gearhead like
me, they don't know or care what goes on under the hood, and pick a car
almost exclusively based on how it looks. Completely opposite from myself
but whatever.


Mrs.E. sent me out to get her a car a couple of years ago while we were in
Florida. She had a small car and was getting intimidated by large trucks.
I asked her what she wanted and she told me to "surprise" her ... she just
wanted something a little bit bigger and with room to carry stuff.

So, I bought her a BMW X5. She hated it. She backed it into my truck,
backed it into my boat trailer and backed it into a tree. Then she got
backed into by a Federal Express semi and that was the end of it.

Eisboch


Never drove the M5, but looks like it is one of those cars where the
visibility to the back sux.



Eisboch October 14th 06 10:30 AM

Speaking of cars...
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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So, I bought her a BMW X5. She hated it. She backed it into my truck,
backed it into my boat trailer and backed it into a tree. Then she got
backed into by a Federal Express semi and that was the end of it.

Eisboch


Never drove the M5, but looks like it is one of those cars where the
visibility to the back sux.


It does. Bad blind spots. Other than that, it's a great vechicle except it
shares a common BMW problem. There are so many electronic devices running
even with the engine off that the batteries go dead if you don't drive them
for a month or so.
They should supply a battery maintainer with every BMW or build them into
the car and tell you to plug it in if you are going on vacation.

Maybe this is true with all cars now-a-days ... I don't know. My F-350
Powerstroke can sit for months and it always starts, but it has two, big
honkin' batteries in it.

Eisboch




JohnH October 14th 06 01:25 PM

Speaking of cars...
 
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 05:30:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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So, I bought her a BMW X5. She hated it. She backed it into my truck,
backed it into my boat trailer and backed it into a tree. Then she got
backed into by a Federal Express semi and that was the end of it.

Eisboch


Never drove the M5, but looks like it is one of those cars where the
visibility to the back sux.


It does. Bad blind spots. Other than that, it's a great vechicle except it
shares a common BMW problem. There are so many electronic devices running
even with the engine off that the batteries go dead if you don't drive them
for a month or so.
They should supply a battery maintainer with every BMW or build them into
the car and tell you to plug it in if you are going on vacation.

Maybe this is true with all cars now-a-days ... I don't know. My F-350
Powerstroke can sit for months and it always starts, but it has two, big
honkin' batteries in it.

Eisboch



I'm not sure what you mean by continuing to rave. They write up a test
comparison of a set of vehicles, medium family sedans, for example. One car
comes out on top, or maybe there's a tie. Then, the next month, they're
rating something else. They've never, in my experience, continued to rave
about an auto after posting that year's test results.

Now for a serious topic: Which floorplan did you get on your Plateau?
Here's a site with the current floorplans. (Although you'll have to click
on models and then floorplans to see them.

http://www.pleasureway.com/

Also, if you don't mind, why did you choose the floorplan you did? Having
had yours for a while, what options would you not have bought or wish you
would have bought?

Thanks.

Eisboch October 14th 06 01:56 PM

Speaking of cars...
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
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Now for a serious topic: Which floorplan did you get on your Plateau?
Here's a site with the current floorplans. (Although you'll have to click
on models and then floorplans to see them.

http://www.pleasureway.com/

Also, if you don't mind, why did you choose the floorplan you did? Having
had yours for a while, what options would you not have bought or wish you
would have bought?

Thanks.


We have the TS floorplan. (middle one). We liked it because the couch/bed
can be made up as one large, almost king-sized bed or two twin-sized. When
not a bed this configuration provides two additional seats besides the
couch. The T3 looks interesting but it was not available when we got ours.
The only drawback I can see is the third seat takes away more of the limited
storage area.

If I were buying again I'd check for the availablilty of a diesel generator
rather than the propane one. We don't use it that often, but obviously the
diesel would have more fuel capacity. Everything else, I'd leave as is.
Ours has the remote camera, awning, and a few other options. Oh ... the
"entertainment center" in the rear consists of a LCD flat screen monitor/TV
and a CD/DVD player. It would be nice if it also had radio. The radio
mounted in the dash is not all that great.

These things are set up nice, but storage space is very limited compared to
bigger motorhomes. There's enough room to carry stuff for a long weekend,
but that's about it. Then again, it's not much bigger than driving a pickup
truck, so going to the food store for supplies isn't a big deal. We bought
a small Haulmark trailer that I have modified and set up to carry more
"stuff" in the event we go anywhere for any extended amount of time.

We haven't used it a lot, although we did go camping with the rest of the
family last weekend and had a good time. The nights were cold but the
furnace had no difficulty keeping the camper warm. Oh ... I also bought a
1.5" thick memory foam topper for the bed. Makes all the difference in the
world. The regular "egg crate" type topper is not the same. I also just
discovered that it has adjustable air bladders in the rear suspension. The
air fill lines are located just below the trailer hitch, one on each side.
I have to read up on them. Truth is, I haven't read "any" of the owner's
manual yet.

Eisboch



Bert Robbins October 14th 06 02:12 PM

Speaking of cars...
 
William Bruce wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
I'm going to do my best to talk my wife into the 268 hp Toyota Camry.


That would be very nice -- an appropriate car for a medical doctor.



Are we going to stir up the Dr. Dr. pot again?

JohnH October 14th 06 02:18 PM

Speaking of cars...
 
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:56:33 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

Now for a serious topic: Which floorplan did you get on your Plateau?
Here's a site with the current floorplans. (Although you'll have to click
on models and then floorplans to see them.

http://www.pleasureway.com/

Also, if you don't mind, why did you choose the floorplan you did? Having
had yours for a while, what options would you not have bought or wish you
would have bought?

Thanks.


We have the TS floorplan. (middle one). We liked it because the couch/bed
can be made up as one large, almost king-sized bed or two twin-sized. When
not a bed this configuration provides two additional seats besides the
couch. The T3 looks interesting but it was not available when we got ours.
The only drawback I can see is the third seat takes away more of the limited
storage area.

If I were buying again I'd check for the availablilty of a diesel generator
rather than the propane one. We don't use it that often, but obviously the
diesel would have more fuel capacity. Everything else, I'd leave as is.
Ours has the remote camera, awning, and a few other options. Oh ... the
"entertainment center" in the rear consists of a LCD flat screen monitor/TV
and a CD/DVD player. It would be nice if it also had radio. The radio
mounted in the dash is not all that great.

These things are set up nice, but storage space is very limited compared to
bigger motorhomes. There's enough room to carry stuff for a long weekend,
but that's about it. Then again, it's not much bigger than driving a pickup
truck, so going to the food store for supplies isn't a big deal. We bought
a small Haulmark trailer that I have modified and set up to carry more
"stuff" in the event we go anywhere for any extended amount of time.

We haven't used it a lot, although we did go camping with the rest of the
family last weekend and had a good time. The nights were cold but the
furnace had no difficulty keeping the camper warm. Oh ... I also bought a
1.5" thick memory foam topper for the bed. Makes all the difference in the
world. The regular "egg crate" type topper is not the same. I also just
discovered that it has adjustable air bladders in the rear suspension. The
air fill lines are located just below the trailer hitch, one on each side.
I have to read up on them. Truth is, I haven't read "any" of the owner's
manual yet.

Eisboch


Is yours the same as the one in the 360 virtual tour? It looks as though
the electric sofa bed comes with seat belts, so would provide seating for a
few more people.

Mercedes is making a Sprinter with a higher roof this year. I wonder if
PleasureWay will use it for future motor homes. I'm not wild about the 72"
interior standing room, being 75.5" inches tall.

JohnH October 14th 06 02:30 PM

Speaking of cars...
 
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 09:12:21 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

William Bruce wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
I'm going to do my best to talk my wife into the 268 hp Toyota Camry.


That would be very nice -- an appropriate car for a medical doctor.



Are we going to stir up the Dr. Dr. pot again?


No.


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