Printer troubleshooting/ Home invasion/ Snake,Allegator, Bear, Wild pig, and Panther repellant.
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:38:54 -0500, "Jim"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
m...
On 9/26/2006 5:13 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there an all in one solution for these problems? Opinions and
recommendations wanted.
Jim

Absolutely. I recommend a 12-gauge Beretta Xtrema2, like the one I own.
Loaded with 3-1/2" Super Mag shells, you'll be able to put any pest into
the next county.

Sorry for the late reply,
http://www.berettausa.com/product/pr..._guns_main.htm

Is this the gun you would recommend for home defense? It's a bit extrema
for
that purpose, don't you think. You say you are not a hunter. What in the
world do you use that thing for?

Shooting stumps and beer cans.

Sadly, even with the rifled barrel, it's not much of a bear, boar or
panther repellant. Well, maybe the panther.

Best bet for all that is a balanced .45 cal Glock semi-auto for the
big stuff and a smaller .357 for the little stuff. :)

Hey SW. Do you think this Harry fella know anything about guns?

Printer troubleshooting/ Home invasion/ Snake,Allegator, Bear,Wild pig, and Panther repellant.
 

On Jan 29, 6:59*am, HK wrote:
Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On 9/26/2006 5:13 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there an all in one solution for these problems? Opinions and
recommendations wanted.
Jim

Absolutely. I recommend a 12-gauge Beretta Xtrema2, like the one I
own. Loaded with 3-1/2" Super Mag shells, you'll be able to put any
pest into the next county.

Sorry for the late reply,
* *http://www.berettausa.com/product/pr..._guns_main.htm

Is this the gun you would recommend for home defense? It's a bit extrema
for that purpose, don't you think. You say you are not a hunter. What in
the world do you use that thing for?

Mine is the fifth one down in the top group:

http://tinyurl.com/3xoh4h

I'm not much of a fan of "camo" look.

The "KO" in the descriptor stands for "kick off" recoil reducer. There's
a "shock absorber system" built into the butt that makes shooting off a
3-1/2" heavy load feel no worse than a light target load.

What do I use it for? Why, to scare the crap out of intruders, of
course. I also use it sometimes to blow clays to smithereens. It's a
very very fast recycling shotgun. Got two accessories for it, too - a
tubular extension that allows loading up more than the usual three
shells, and a slug barrel. *A 12-gauge slug will, as Clint sez, blow
your head clean off. *:}

I don't hunt or shoot critters, but I am the deadly force empty
soda/beer cans do not want to meet. It is amazing how accurate a good
shotgun can be at substantial distances.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have a remington 870 express (in non riot dress)
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/rem/rem_95575.jpg

probably shot 5 rounds in 10 years. not redally a shotgun fan, and not
big on "home defense" with a shotgun, of course, I don't live in
Detroit either. I think where people think they need the boggest,
baddest (looking) shotgun for a"home defense weapon" is that they've
seen too many action movies. As far as a "home defense" weapon, I
have a sig-sauer 44 mag. revolver, and the first two rounds are loaded
with snake shot. (Short .410 shotgun) the other four are wad
cutters.
The idea is even in a dark hallway, one can reach around a corner and
pepper someone pretty good, if first shot doesn't force submission,
then the second should help. by then the situation should be well
under control. If not, then the next four resolve with extreme
prejudice.

Thats the way I look at it.

Printer troubleshooting/ Home invasion/ Snake,Allegator, Bear,Wild pig, and Panther repellant.
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:38:54 -0500, "Jim"
wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 9/26/2006 5:13 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there an all in one solution for these problems? Opinions and
recommendations wanted.
Jim
Absolutely. I recommend a 12-gauge Beretta Xtrema2, like the one I own.
Loaded with 3-1/2" Super Mag shells, you'll be able to put any pest into
the next county.
Sorry for the late reply,
http://www.berettausa.com/product/pr..._guns_main.htm

Is this the gun you would recommend for home defense? It's a bit extrema for
that purpose, don't you think. You say you are not a hunter. What in the
world do you use that thing for?

Shooting stumps and beer cans.

Sadly, even with the rifled barrel, it's not much of a bear, boar or
panther repellant. Well, maybe the panther.

Best bet for all that is a balanced .45 cal Glock semi-auto for the
big stuff and a smaller .357 for the little stuff. :)



The largest critters those who hunt with shotguns *typically* target are
deer, and they use slugs. We only have small bears around here, and no
panthers. If I want bores, I'll just release them from my usenet filter.


I sure as hell would not use a GLOCK in any calber to defend myself from
large bears or lions. The full-sized GLOCK 17 and 34 in 9 mm are great
target pistols, the GLOCK 35 is manageable in .40 S&W, but I think there
is too much muzzle flip in .45 ACP in GLOCK polymer pistols for them to
be the weapon I'd depend upon for rapid firing at a charging critter
with big teeth.






--
George W. Bush - Worst President Ever, to the very last minute of the
very last day of his term.

Printer troubleshooting/ Home invasion/ Snake,Allegator, Bear,Wild pig, and Panther repellant.
 

Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:59 am, HK wrote:
Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 9/26/2006 5:13 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there an all in one solution for these problems? Opinions and
recommendations wanted.
Jim
Absolutely. I recommend a 12-gauge Beretta Xtrema2, like the one I
own. Loaded with 3-1/2" Super Mag shells, you'll be able to put any
pest into the next county.
Sorry for the late reply,
http://www.berettausa.com/product/pr..._guns_main.htm
Is this the gun you would recommend for home defense? It's a bit extrema
for that purpose, don't you think. You say you are not a hunter. What in
the world do you use that thing for?
Mine is the fifth one down in the top group:

http://tinyurl.com/3xoh4h

I'm not much of a fan of "camo" look.

The "KO" in the descriptor stands for "kick off" recoil reducer. There's
a "shock absorber system" built into the butt that makes shooting off a
3-1/2" heavy load feel no worse than a light target load.

What do I use it for? Why, to scare the crap out of intruders, of
course. I also use it sometimes to blow clays to smithereens. It's a
very very fast recycling shotgun. Got two accessories for it, too - a
tubular extension that allows loading up more than the usual three
shells, and a slug barrel. A 12-gauge slug will, as Clint sez, blow
your head clean off. :}

I don't hunt or shoot critters, but I am the deadly force empty
soda/beer cans do not want to meet. It is amazing how accurate a good
shotgun can be at substantial distances.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have a remington 870 express (in non riot dress)
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/rem/rem_95575.jpg

probably shot 5 rounds in 10 years. not redally a shotgun fan, and not
big on "home defense" with a shotgun, of course, I don't live in
Detroit either. I think where people think they need the boggest,
baddest (looking) shotgun for a"home defense weapon" is that they've
seen too many action movies. As far as a "home defense" weapon, I
have a sig-sauer 44 mag. revolver, and the first two rounds are loaded
with snake shot. (Short .410 shotgun) the other four are wad
cutters.
The idea is even in a dark hallway, one can reach around a corner and
pepper someone pretty good, if first shot doesn't force submission,
then the second should help. by then the situation should be well
under control. If not, then the next four resolve with extreme
prejudice.

Thats the way I look at it.


I wasn't aware of the fact that SIG made revolvers. Am I reading your
post correctly? You have your 44-mag SIG revolver loaded with snake shot
and wad cutters? And that you would reach around a corner and shoot?

Sounds to me as if you know very little about firearm safety.

I have a SIG, but it is a semi-auto, not a revolver. Could you post a
photo of your SIG revolver in 44 magnum? Never seen one.

Printer troubleshooting/ Home invasion/ Snake,Allegator, Bear,Wild pig, and Panther repellant.
 

On Jan 29, 7:29*am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:59 am, HK wrote:
Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
om...
On 9/26/2006 5:13 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there an all in one solution for these problems? Opinions and
recommendations wanted.
Jim
Absolutely. I recommend a 12-gauge Beretta Xtrema2, like the one I
own. Loaded with 3-1/2" Super Mag shells, you'll be able to put any
pest into the next county.
Sorry for the late reply,
* *http://www.berettausa.com/product/pr..._guns_main.htm
Is this the gun you would recommend for home defense? It's a bit extrema
for that purpose, don't you think. You say you are not a hunter. What in
the world do you use that thing for?
Mine is the fifth one down in the top group:

http://tinyurl.com/3xoh4h

I'm not much of a fan of "camo" look.

The "KO" in the descriptor stands for "kick off" recoil reducer. There's
a "shock absorber system" built into the butt that makes shooting off a
3-1/2" heavy load feel no worse than a light target load.

What do I use it for? Why, to scare the crap out of intruders, of
course. I also use it sometimes to blow clays to smithereens. It's a
very very fast recycling shotgun. Got two accessories for it, too - a
tubular extension that allows loading up more than the usual three
shells, and a slug barrel. *A 12-gauge slug will, as Clint sez, blow
your head clean off. *:}

I don't hunt or shoot critters, but I am the deadly force empty
soda/beer cans do not want to meet. It is amazing how accurate a good
shotgun can be at substantial distances.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have a remington 870 express (in non riot dress)
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/rem/rem_95575.jpg

probably shot 5 rounds in 10 years. not redally a shotgun fan, and not
big on "home defense" with a shotgun, of course, I don't live in
Detroit either. I think where people think they need the boggest,
baddest (looking) *shotgun for a"home defense weapon" *is that they've
seen too many action movies. *As far as a "home defense" weapon, I
have a sig-sauer 44 mag. revolver, and the first two rounds are loaded
with snake shot. *(Short .410 shotgun) *the other four are wad
cutters.
The idea is even in a dark hallway, one can reach around a corner and
pepper someone pretty good, if first shot doesn't force submission,
then the second should help. by then the situation should be well
under control. If not, then the next four resolve with extreme
prejudice.

Thats the way I look at it.

I wasn't aware of the fact that SIG made revolvers. Am I reading your
post correctly? You have your 44-mag SIG revolver loaded with snake shot
and wad cutters? And that you would reach around a corner and shoot?

Sounds to me as if you know very little about firearm safety.

I have a SIG, but it is a semi-auto, not a revolver. Could you post a
photo of your SIG revolver in 44 magnum? Never seen one.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Actually Harry, I know quite a bit about fire arm saftey . That's why
I have the pistol rigged the way it is. Let me rephrase. I have a
single-actioned .44 mag revolver which is made by Sig-Saur under the
Hawes lable. I'd thin they oculd have named this model something else
besides "Montana Marshal" but the didn't ask my opinion...

http://www.armsbid.com/8webpix/3.jpg

It's like about everything that Sig. makes it's pretty high quality.

One thing that people who DON'T know anything about fire arms will
buy the biggest baddest shotgun then can get, then if there they
think there is someone in the house, the will stand right in an open
door or hallway and turn on a light making them a perfect silloutette.
BANG! game over, homeowner looses or is dead.

Again, if I know there is an intruder I'm not out to blow someones
head "cleeen owfff" But the object is to subdue, if a forceable
command doesnt' work, and the first two don't take care of the
situation, the other four will.

not that hard to figure out...

Printer troubleshooting/ Home invasion/ Snake,Allegator, Bear,Wild pig, and Panther repellant.
 

Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 7:29 am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:59 am, HK wrote:
Jim wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 9/26/2006 5:13 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there an all in one solution for these problems? Opinions and
recommendations wanted.
Jim
Absolutely. I recommend a 12-gauge Beretta Xtrema2, like the one I
own. Loaded with 3-1/2" Super Mag shells, you'll be able to put any
pest into the next county.
Sorry for the late reply,
http://www.berettausa.com/product/pr..._guns_main.htm
Is this the gun you would recommend for home defense? It's a bit extrema
for that purpose, don't you think. You say you are not a hunter. What in
the world do you use that thing for?
Mine is the fifth one down in the top group:
http://tinyurl.com/3xoh4h
I'm not much of a fan of "camo" look.
The "KO" in the descriptor stands for "kick off" recoil reducer. There's
a "shock absorber system" built into the butt that makes shooting off a
3-1/2" heavy load feel no worse than a light target load.
What do I use it for? Why, to scare the crap out of intruders, of
course. I also use it sometimes to blow clays to smithereens. It's a
very very fast recycling shotgun. Got two accessories for it, too - a
tubular extension that allows loading up more than the usual three
shells, and a slug barrel. A 12-gauge slug will, as Clint sez, blow
your head clean off. :}
I don't hunt or shoot critters, but I am the deadly force empty
soda/beer cans do not want to meet. It is amazing how accurate a good
shotgun can be at substantial distances.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I have a remington 870 express (in non riot dress)
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/rem/rem_95575.jpg
probably shot 5 rounds in 10 years. not redally a shotgun fan, and not
big on "home defense" with a shotgun, of course, I don't live in
Detroit either. I think where people think they need the boggest,
baddest (looking) shotgun for a"home defense weapon" is that they've
seen too many action movies. As far as a "home defense" weapon, I
have a sig-sauer 44 mag. revolver, and the first two rounds are loaded
with snake shot. (Short .410 shotgun) the other four are wad
cutters.
The idea is even in a dark hallway, one can reach around a corner and
pepper someone pretty good, if first shot doesn't force submission,
then the second should help. by then the situation should be well
under control. If not, then the next four resolve with extreme
prejudice.
Thats the way I look at it.
I wasn't aware of the fact that SIG made revolvers. Am I reading your
post correctly? You have your 44-mag SIG revolver loaded with snake shot
and wad cutters? And that you would reach around a corner and shoot?

Sounds to me as if you know very little about firearm safety.

I have a SIG, but it is a semi-auto, not a revolver. Could you post a
photo of your SIG revolver in 44 magnum? Never seen one.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Actually Harry, I know quite a bit about fire arm saftey . That's why
I have the pistol rigged the way it is. Let me rephrase. I have a
single-actioned .44 mag revolver which is made by Sig-Saur under the
Hawes lable. I'd thin they oculd have named this model something else
besides "Montana Marshal" but the didn't ask my opinion...

http://www.armsbid.com/8webpix/3.jpg

It's like about everything that Sig. makes it's pretty high quality.

One thing that people who DON'T know anything about fire arms will
buy the biggest baddest shotgun then can get, then if there they
think there is someone in the house, the will stand right in an open
door or hallway and turn on a light making them a perfect silloutette.
BANG! game over, homeowner looses or is dead.

Again, if I know there is an intruder I'm not out to blow someones
head "cleeen owfff" But the object is to subdue, if a forceable
command doesnt' work, and the first two don't take care of the
situation, the other four will.

not that hard to figure out...

The only reason Harry purchased a gun is he couldn't figure out how to
get his truck in his bedroom.

Printer troubleshooting/ Home invasion/ Snake,Allegator, Bear, Wild pig, and Panther repellant.
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 7:29 am, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jan 29, 6:59 am, HK wrote:
Jim wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 9/26/2006 5:13 PM, Jim wrote:
Is there an all in one solution for these problems? Opinions and
recommendations wanted.
Jim
Absolutely. I recommend a 12-gauge Beretta Xtrema2, like the one I
own. Loaded with 3-1/2" Super Mag shells, you'll be able to put any
pest into the next county.
Sorry for the late reply,
http://www.berettausa.com/product/pr..._guns_main.htm
Is this the gun you would recommend for home defense? It's a bit
extrema
for that purpose, don't you think. You say you are not a hunter. What
in
the world do you use that thing for?
Mine is the fifth one down in the top group:
http://tinyurl.com/3xoh4h
I'm not much of a fan of "camo" look.
The "KO" in the descriptor stands for "kick off" recoil reducer.
There's
a "shock absorber system" built into the butt that makes shooting off
a
3-1/2" heavy load feel no worse than a light target load.
What do I use it for? Why, to scare the crap out of intruders, of
course. I also use it sometimes to blow clays to smithereens. It's a
very very fast recycling shotgun. Got two accessories for it, too - a
tubular extension that allows loading up more than the usual three
shells, and a slug barrel. A 12-gauge slug will, as Clint sez, blow
your head clean off. :}
I don't hunt or shoot critters, but I am the deadly force empty
soda/beer cans do not want to meet. It is amazing how accurate a good
shotgun can be at substantial distances.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I have a remington 870 express (in non riot dress)
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/rem/rem_95575.jpg
probably shot 5 rounds in 10 years. not redally a shotgun fan, and not
big on "home defense" with a shotgun, of course, I don't live in
Detroit either. I think where people think they need the boggest,
baddest (looking) shotgun for a"home defense weapon" is that they've
seen too many action movies. As far as a "home defense" weapon, I
have a sig-sauer 44 mag. revolver, and the first two rounds are loaded
with snake shot. (Short .410 shotgun) the other four are wad
cutters.
The idea is even in a dark hallway, one can reach around a corner and
pepper someone pretty good, if first shot doesn't force submission,
then the second should help. by then the situation should be well
under control. If not, then the next four resolve with extreme
prejudice.
Thats the way I look at it.
I wasn't aware of the fact that SIG made revolvers. Am I reading your
post correctly? You have your 44-mag SIG revolver loaded with snake shot
and wad cutters? And that you would reach around a corner and shoot?

Sounds to me as if you know very little about firearm safety.

I have a SIG, but it is a semi-auto, not a revolver. Could you post a
photo of your SIG revolver in 44 magnum? Never seen one.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Actually Harry, I know quite a bit about fire arm saftey . That's why
I have the pistol rigged the way it is. Let me rephrase. I have a
single-actioned .44 mag revolver which is made by Sig-Saur under the
Hawes lable. I'd thin they oculd have named this model something else
besides "Montana Marshal" but the didn't ask my opinion...

http://www.armsbid.com/8webpix/3.jpg

It's like about everything that Sig. makes it's pretty high quality.

One thing that people who DON'T know anything about fire arms will
buy the biggest baddest shotgun then can get, then if there they
think there is someone in the house, the will stand right in an open
door or hallway and turn on a light making them a perfect silloutette.
BANG! game over, homeowner looses or is dead.

Again, if I know there is an intruder I'm not out to blow someones
head "cleeen owfff" But the object is to subdue, if a forceable
command doesnt' work, and the first two don't take care of the
situation, the other four will.

not that hard to figure out...

The only reason Harry purchased a gun is he couldn't figure out how to get
his truck in his bedroom.


One shot from Harry's cannon would blow a hole through his wall that you
could drive a truck through.