Anyone using Napster?
 

How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?

Anyone using Napster?
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?

I've had no problems with it. Here's a good site for cheap music,
however:
http://www.allofmp3.com

If you decide to sign up with them, download their AllTunes software,
it works much better than just going to their site.

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"basskisser" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?

I've had no problems with it. Here's a good site for cheap music,
however:
http://www.allofmp3.com

If you decide to sign up with them, download their AllTunes software,
it works much better than just going to their site.


I've been using allofmp3 for about 6 months. But, their credit card payment
system has been broken for a couple of days and I'm out of credits there. I
need to download & learn almost 50 songs in the next two weeks. I emailed
the site about the payment problem, and as usual, got answer bak not so good
understood Russian we rite more again.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 9/25/2006 1:32 PM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?
I've had no problems with it. Here's a good site for cheap music,
however:
http://www.allofmp3.com

If you decide to sign up with them, download their AllTunes software,
it works much better than just going to their site.


I've been using allofmp3 for about 6 months. But, their credit card
payment system has been broken for a couple of days and I'm out of
credits there. I need to download & learn almost 50 songs in the next two
weeks. I emailed the site about the payment problem, and as usual, got
answer bak not so good understood Russian we rite more again.


I just "refilled" there. I think I had to buy a token with my credit card
and then use that number...it is convoluted.

When was "just"? I went there 8 seconds ago and it still says credit card
payment is not possible at this time. I believe the Russian authorities may
have finally agreed to stomp this site.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?

I've had no problems with it. Here's a good site for cheap music,
however:
http://www.allofmp3.com

If you decide to sign up with them, download their AllTunes software,
it works much better than just going to their site.


I've been using allofmp3 for about 6 months. But, their credit card payment
system has been broken for a couple of days and I'm out of credits there. I
need to download & learn almost 50 songs in the next two weeks. I emailed
the site about the payment problem, and as usual, got answer bak not so good
understood Russian we rite more again.

Odd thing, that. My credit card happens to work still. Two of my
business associates' cards do not work. One of the guys tried two
different credit cards, one being from the same bank as mine.

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"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish
I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?

I've had no problems with it. Here's a good site for cheap music,
however:
http://www.allofmp3.com

If you decide to sign up with them, download their AllTunes software,
it works much better than just going to their site.


I've been using allofmp3 for about 6 months. But, their credit card
payment
system has been broken for a couple of days and I'm out of credits there.
I
need to download & learn almost 50 songs in the next two weeks. I emailed
the site about the payment problem, and as usual, got answer bak not so
good
understood Russian we rite more again.

Odd thing, that. My credit card happens to work still. Two of my
business associates' cards do not work. One of the guys tried two
different credit cards, one being from the same bank as mine.


I can't even get to the page where I enter the credit card info. Are you
talking about www.allofmp3.com, or www.alltunes.com? I'm avoiding alltunes
because I prefer NOT to install software - I just want to download the old
fashioned way.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish
I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?

I've had no problems with it. Here's a good site for cheap music,
however:
http://www.allofmp3.com

If you decide to sign up with them, download their AllTunes software,
it works much better than just going to their site.


I've been using allofmp3 for about 6 months. But, their credit card
payment
system has been broken for a couple of days and I'm out of credits there.
I
need to download & learn almost 50 songs in the next two weeks. I emailed
the site about the payment problem, and as usual, got answer bak not so
good
understood Russian we rite more again.

Odd thing, that. My credit card happens to work still. Two of my
business associates' cards do not work. One of the guys tried two
different credit cards, one being from the same bank as mine.


I can't even get to the page where I enter the credit card info. Are you
talking about www.allofmp3.com, or www.alltunes.com? I'm avoiding alltunes
because I prefer NOT to install software - I just want to download the old
fashioned way.

I use both, but I prefer to use alltunes because you can set up several
songs to download at once. I just went to www.allofmp3.com, and got to
the page. Go to "balance" then "refill balance" button, then "add money
by credit card" button. It just worked for me, although I've got money
in there, so I didn't try to put in more.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 9/25/2006 1:32 PM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?
I've had no problems with it. Here's a good site for cheap music,
however:
http://www.allofmp3.com

If you decide to sign up with them, download their AllTunes software,
it works much better than just going to their site.


I've been using allofmp3 for about 6 months. But, their credit card
payment system has been broken for a couple of days and I'm out of
credits there. I need to download & learn almost 50 songs in the next two
weeks. I emailed the site about the payment problem, and as usual, got
answer bak not so good understood Russian we rite more again.


I just "refilled" there. I think I had to buy a token with my credit card
and then use that number...it is convoluted.

When was "just"? I went there 8 seconds ago and it still says credit card
payment is not possible at this time. I believe the Russian authorities may
have finally agreed to stomp this site.

Nope, it's working!

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in news:aKTRg.1520$ya1.190
@news02.roc.ny:

How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?




File sharing....yecch!

You, obviously, know how to use part of Usenet. Why not download from
Usenet's alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(your favorite genre here) for free?

Oh, I know....You feel guilty playin' music and not payin' the
billionaires. Sorry...............

Xnews works good, and is free. http://xnews.newsguy.com/


--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

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On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:01:05 -0400, Larry wrote:

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in news:aKTRg.1520$ya1.190
:

How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?




File sharing....yecch!

You, obviously, know how to use part of Usenet. Why not download from
Usenet's alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(your favorite genre here) for free?

Oh, I know....You feel guilty playin' music and not payin' the
billionaires. Sorry...............

Xnews works good, and is free. http://xnews.newsguy.com/

From what I gathered, they were focusing on Russian billionaires who
probably bootlegged the music from Usenet!
--
John

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
news:aKTRg.1520$ya1.190
@news02.roc.ny:

How's the software? Any problems that make you think "sumbitch I wish I
hadn't installed this piece of crap"?




File sharing....yecch!

You, obviously, know how to use part of Usenet. Why not download from
Usenet's alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(your favorite genre here) for free?

Oh, I know....You feel guilty playin' music and not payin' the
billionaires. Sorry...............

No binary support via my ISP, not about to pay another service when there's
no guarantee I'll find the music I need.

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JohnH wrote in
:

From what I gathered, they were focusing on Russian billionaires who
probably bootlegged the music from Usenet!


Don't make light of too many Russians. The finest MP3 catalog program on
the planet is:
MP3 Catalog Pro
from www.wizetech.com
for $US30.

In a very large collection, it can search through its all-RAM-based
catalog and show your honey all the songs by Travis Tritt in about a
hundred milliseconds, not grinding through disk files for 30 minutes like
most programs that do the same thing. Simply drag and drop the songs she
wants straight out of the search window into Winamp's playlist where you
want to play it in order and you're now in business. When it creates or
updates its catalog, it dissects every MP3 file it finds, separates and
stores its ID tag, even the newest version ID tag information, and can
even create a unique filename.mp3, if you like from the information
stored....or the other way around.

It's written by some really smart Russians, you know, those guys who are
making money from the US Taxpayer's Space Station sending touristas up
with the groceries...for big bucks...(c;

If you have a Windows-based MP3 collection I highly recommend this
program so you can find what you want, so easily it's uncanny....

Napster sucks....You may quote me...(c;

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
:

No binary support via my ISP, not about to pay another service when
there's no guarantee I'll find the music I need.



Don't be so cheap. Go to www.usenetserver.com and buy 3 days of
unlimited downloads for $3 to try it out. Is that cheap enough? Then,
buy 3 months of unlimited downloads...really unlimited, 10 simultaneous
ports, 24/7, as fast as you gots bandwidth to support, for $39. Your ISP
may be a problem blocking port 119, but UNS has that covered, too,
because you can logon to their many OTHER ports to get around ISP
blocking.

Luckily, Knology Cable (thanks guys!) includes DIRECT FIBER ACCESS to the
Usenetserver beast in Atlanta. I'm 9 milliseconds from God's Main
Server...(c; This message is being typed into my 4th port. 3 others are
downloading like mad as I type.....

"Unused bandwidth is WASTED bandwidth".....right?

Best Buy has 25 DVD+R on a spindle this week for $5 a spindle. I already
cleaned out the store here....(c;

Someday the corporations and bureaucrats are going to turn all this off.
I'm already ready for that day, having more to listen to and watch than I
could in the rest of my lifetime. It will be a real shame if you're
not.... Internet is well on its way to being like TV...another
corporation billboard-in-your-living-room...they control.

Pity....I no longer even look at webpages because of it.

Hmm...Rochester...is WHEN-TV still on the air? That was the only TV
channel we could get at the lake house with a 60' antenna!




--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

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Harry Krause wrote in
:

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 is a colossal pain in the ass.


Only because you don't have near enough disk space...(c;

What's your news client you use to download binaries? Maybe I can ease
your pain....



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
:

No binary support via my ISP, not about to pay another service when
there's no guarantee I'll find the music I need.



Don't be so cheap.

I'm not being cheap. Rather, I often look for music that's quite obscure,
and I usually need it NOW, for various reasons. No time to post a request in
a newsgroup and hope someone lights up and offers the music 4 days later.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On 9/26/2006 8:31 AM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
:

No binary support via my ISP, not about to pay another service when
there's no guarantee I'll find the music I need.


Don't be so cheap.

I'm not being cheap. Rather, I often look for music that's quite obscure,
and I usually need it NOW, for various reasons. No time to post a request
in a newsgroup and hope someone lights up and offers the music 4 days
later.


There are many problems with music downloaded via "binary" newsgroups, not
the least of which is... low-fi.

Were you able to buy what you needed from the Russkis?


No. See the email further below, received late yesterday. The so-called
"token" you mentioned may have really been related to the Xrost cash card
they mention in their message. Not sure about using that method, though. The
email also suggests using alltunes, but at first glance, that doesn't allow
me to buy individual songs.


Hello,
We're sorry, our payment system is not accepting credit card payments at the
moment.

At the moment you can add money to your balance on the site of our partner
allTunes.com. Please use this link http://alltunes.com/payment/refill.shtml

You may use your AllofMP3.com login and password.

You may also refill your Allofmp3 balance with credit card or even with
cash - via Xrost service.
Xrost sells online prepaid iCards that can be immediately redeemed at
Allofmp3.
Xrost iCards can be funded by trusted international pay systems which accept
both credit cards and cash (if you don't have a credit card or don't want to
use it online at all).
You will receive a bonus of 10% if you redeem Xrost iCards.

Best regards,
Allofmp3.com

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On 9/26/2006 8:31 AM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:




There are many problems with music downloaded via "binary" newsgroups, not
the least of which is... low-fi.


That's for sure. I've tried a few and although I appreciate the efforts
..... they sound horrible.


Eisboch

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Harry Krause wrote in news:4nsl1gFbtlj5U1
@individual.net:

There are many problems with music downloaded via "binary" newsgroups,
not the least of which is... low-fi.


Horse****. There isn't any difference between 44.1Kbps and 44.1Kbps.

For you audiofools, there are even FLAC newsgroups where uncompressing a
FLAC file gets you the same bits as was on the original disk, but you
can't tell the difference. Music is all sampled at 44.1Kbps. It's
already corrupted before it gets to the store. It has been all your
life, even in analog days. Music is made for R-A-D-I-O, which promotes
and sells it. The bandwidth of FM is STILL 50 to 15,000 Hz. The only
difference on the air is the 75 usec pre-emphasis/de-emphasis to reduce
FM hiss....Still.

What nonsense it is to think they care and spend extra money past
whatever the consumers will tolerate. After all, it's only 44.1K
samples, 3 times the highest frequency rate, but the electronics smooths
it to sound good.

Of course, these days, playing through those little tiny speakers they
sell for $600 at the audiofool stores, it sounds like crap no matter how
they make it. One woofer...how stupid.

He's getting music to play in a BOAT, through tiny speakers, not Carnegie
Hall on massive prosound speakers. It has no fidelity at all.

Same old Harry....trollin' for the kick.

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On 9/26/2006 8:50 AM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On 9/26/2006 8:31 AM, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
:

No binary support via my ISP, not about to pay another service when
there's no guarantee I'll find the music I need.


Don't be so cheap.
I'm not being cheap. Rather, I often look for music that's quite
obscure, and I usually need it NOW, for various reasons. No time to
post a request in a newsgroup and hope someone lights up and offers the
music 4 days later.

There are many problems with music downloaded via "binary" newsgroups,
not the least of which is... low-fi.

Were you able to buy what you needed from the Russkis?


No. See the email further below, received late yesterday. The so-called
"token" you mentioned may have really been related to the Xrost cash card
they mention in their message. Not sure about using that method, though.
The email also suggests using alltunes, but at first glance, that doesn't
allow me to buy individual songs.


Hello,
We're sorry, our payment system is not accepting credit card payments at
the
moment.

At the moment you can add money to your balance on the site of our
partner
allTunes.com. Please use this link
http://alltunes.com/payment/refill.shtml

You may use your AllofMP3.com login and password.

You may also refill your Allofmp3 balance with credit card or even with
cash - via Xrost service.
Xrost sells online prepaid iCards that can be immediately redeemed at
Allofmp3.
Xrost iCards can be funded by trusted international pay systems which
accept
both credit cards and cash (if you don't have a credit card or don't want
to
use it online at all).
You will receive a bonus of 10% if you redeem Xrost iCards.

Best regards,
Allofmp3.com





I redeemed an "alltunes pin card" which I bought with my credit card.

I just tried alltunes and ordered a single "do-wop" from a a CD album of
26.

Sounds like you need a technical consult from a Russian speaker.

No - I need my phone to stop ringing. Can I interest you 1100 cases of V-8
Splash, any mix of flavors? Delivers right to your garage on 10/7. You'll
need to drink it really fast, or keep it from freezing.

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"Larry" wrote in message
...

Harry Krause wrote in news:4nsl1gFbtlj5U1
@individual.net:

There are many problems with music downloaded via "binary" newsgroups,
not the least of which is... low-fi.


Horse****. There isn't any difference between 44.1Kbps and 44.1Kbps.

For you audiofools, there are even FLAC newsgroups where uncompressing a
FLAC file gets you the same bits as was on the original disk, but you
can't tell the difference. Music is all sampled at 44.1Kbps. It's
already corrupted before it gets to the store. It has been all your
life, even in analog days. Music is made for R-A-D-I-O, which promotes
and sells it. The bandwidth of FM is STILL 50 to 15,000 Hz. The only
difference on the air is the 75 usec pre-emphasis/de-emphasis to reduce
FM hiss....Still.

What nonsense it is to think they care and spend extra money past
whatever the consumers will tolerate. After all, it's only 44.1K
samples, 3 times the highest frequency rate, but the electronics smooths
it to sound good.

Of course, these days, playing through those little tiny speakers they
sell for $600 at the audiofool stores, it sounds like crap no matter how
they make it. One woofer...how stupid.

He's getting music to play in a BOAT, through tiny speakers, not Carnegie
Hall on massive prosound speakers. It has no fidelity at all.

Same old Harry....trollin' for the kick.


Holy Crap!

Eisboch (shuda just used a Chuckie Dot)

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote in news:4nsl1gFbtlj5U1
@individual.net:

There are many problems with music downloaded via "binary" newsgroups,
not the least of which is... low-fi.


Horse****. There isn't any difference between 44.1Kbps and 44.1Kbps.

For you audiofools, there are even FLAC newsgroups where uncompressing a
FLAC file gets you the same bits as was on the original disk, but you
can't tell the difference. Music is all sampled at 44.1Kbps.

SNIP

The one variable to cannot control is the user on the other end, and how
he/she has the software set up during the ripping process. In my previous
band, the guitarist handed out CDs containing the initial list of songs we
were going to perform. They sounded nasty on my REAL stereo, or high quality
headphones. I noticed the file sizes were sometimes 1/10th of what I got if
I ripped the same songs from the original artist's CDs. For reasons he could
never explain*, he'd set up his software for maximum compression.

Don't claim that it's impossible or unlikely to receive music whose quality
doesn't suit your purposes.

*Probably didn't realize he'd done it. Or, he was trying to save money on
CDs

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Don't be so cheap.

I'm not being cheap. Rather, I often look for music that's quite obscure,
and I usually need it NOW, for various reasons. No time to post a request
in a newsgroup and hope someone lights up and offers the music 4 days
later.


Unless you have a warehouse full of records, or live in a
very large city & don't mind driving around to all the
2nd-hand music stores to hunt thru their bins, there's no
reliable way to find obscure music.

The internet makes it somwhat easier, but not that much really.



There are many problems with music downloaded via "binary" newsgroups, not
the least of which is... low-fi.


That depends very much on what you get... the luck of the
draw. I downloaded quite a bit a few days ago. Some was so
lo-fi it wasn't worth keeping, some had big skips, some was
listenable, some was great.

Among the stuff I downloaded off a binary newsgroup was a
lot of Bach preludes & fuges, they sounded awesome.

At this point, I still haven't converted all my CDs to mp3
files, so I have plenty to do without hunting for more
stuff; but what I downloaded was mostly pretty good, worth
adding to the mix. I'm not going to complain about low
fidelity because it didn't cost me anything but time, and
not much of that.

Regards
Doug King

Anyone using Napster?
 

That depends very much on what you get... the luck of the
draw. I downloaded quite a bit a few days ago. Some was so
lo-fi it wasn't worth keeping, some had big skips, some was
listenable, some was great.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
When you are down loading, do you pay attention to the bit rate off
the binary groups?


Yes, it helps weed out the ones not worth even the time to
download/decode.


Because I'm interested in techno/dance and "world" music (meaning
performers and music indigenous to cultures or social groups) I haunt
some of those binary groups. I almost never download anything that
isn't 128 bps or higher because the fidelity at lower bit rates just
doesn't make it worthwhile.

And when I upload something, I always convert at a minimum of 128.

Actually 128 can sound pretty good if it's done right. Some
of the stuff I've downloaded at much higher bitrates has
sounded awful... muddy, scratchy, possibly recorded from a
record player... for stuff that's so obscure it's not
available on CD, maybe worth fooling with.

I downloaded a lot of Yes albums that sounded terrible, had
big skips, mixed chunks of different songs, etc etc. They
were supposedly at 320bps, I trashcanned all of it. CDs
aren't that expensive ;)

DSK

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wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:19:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

For reasons he could
never explain*, he'd set up his software for maximum compression.

Don't claim that it's impossible or unlikely to receive music whose
quality
doesn't suit your purposes.


Guys who post bad sounding stuff usually get their ass flamed off.
There are plenty of discriminationg ears on ABSM newsgroups who demand
quality rips. I, on the other hand, spent so much time in computer
rooms that "FM quality" is fine with me. My suggestion is to try it
and if you don't like it buy the CD or pay the Russian mob to rip you
one you will be happy with.

Virtually all the music I listen to is heard on a real stereo, and for
reasons I can't explain, there is a certain point in the compression scheme
where I can hear the music developing sort of an "edge" in the higher
frequencies. The only time I crank up the compression is if I'm emailing it
to another musician, along with the question "This is the version I'm
talking about - have you heard it?" In those instances, it's assumed that if
he wants a permanent version, he'll go find it.