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Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!"
7 September 2006 {HRI note 20060907} ' Again,* if others told you this, then I would not have to, and I could go sailing and do other things you know I enjoy, like art and music and some Fine Particle Physics research for you. I quote: ** As song birds at dawn on the farm awaken the early risers, one person is already up; in fact, he never slept - not once in the past 33 years. ' You'd think, going without sleep for that long may have its drawbacks, but not for the man in Vietnam's central Quang Nam province, who has never been ill after decades of staying awake. ' His ability to stay awake has not only made him famous, but also represents a phenomenon worthy of study. ' ' Sixty-four-year-old Vietnamese citizen Thai Ngoc, known as Hai Ngoc, said he stayed awake permanently after running a fever in 1973, *(1) and counted more than 11,700 consecutive days of staying awake. Proving his health as a farmer, as an elderly resident of the Que Trung farming commune, in the Que Son district, he still can carry two 50 kg (100 pound) bags of fertilizer down 4 km (2.5 miles) of road, walking home, every day. ' ' Mr. Ngoc currently lives on his 5 ha (12 acres) farm at the foot of a mountain, busy with farming and taking care of pigs and chickens all day. His six children live at their house in Que Trung. Ngoc often does extra farm work, or guards his farm at night to prevent theft, and said it took him three months, using the extra time of nights, to dig two large ponds to raise fish. His neighbor, by the name of Vu, said Ngoc volunteered the help of beating the funeral drum during the night, and to guard the house of the relatives of the dead, so that these could take a nap. Neighbor Vu also said, that when the farming commune was planting sugar cane, several people asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight to go to work, since he was up anyway. ** (Quoted from, and, to remove the usual political and traditional 'lowest common average "equals" "true" and "normal"'-terminology and -viewpoint which we know so well from the Medical tradition - characterized by Medical arrogance, while strewn with Medical evil its arrogance covers so well - *(2) now edited out by me, to enhance and validate a benign, very well-meaning newspaper article, entitled 'Vietnam Man Stays Awake For Three Decades' - Reported by Vu Phuong Thao - Translated by Thu Thuy - Story from Thanh Nien News, published 14 Feb 2006 12:51:09 (GMT+7) - Copyright Thanh Nien News) ' I will add more in due course, if nobody else has the courage to take up this unimaginably vital and hugely humanitarian subject. Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity" human rights philosopher and poet Sooner or later, I will inevitably come down on anyone who tries to harm others: I love people that intensely. Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity" human rights philosopher and poet __________ References: [First Law of Human Rights] * [Intro to Head of State] [Justice] _________ Footnotes: (1) [His body's reaction in order to reject certain harmful Energies] 'Defining The Major Harmful Or Bad Energies - As They Are Created And Projected By Criminal Minds' {HRI 20030611} (11 June 2003) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.c...8a8ef2de?fwc=1 (2) 'A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind' (13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...ca8ce9dc?fwc=1 (13 February 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...040b6719?fwc=1 ' ____________ Verification: http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld Copyright 2006 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher and poet This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for anyone who learns from it, and (even if he can not learn from it) who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included, to others who might be able to learn from it. None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political or religious or scientific agenda, but only to educate, and to encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves, about any organizations or individuals. Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to: PlatoWorld at Lycos.com (address unreadable for Internet robots - replace ' at ' with the '@' symbol) |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
Ok...so, what's the point?
Koos Nolst Trenite wrote: Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" 7 September 2006 {HRI note 20060907} ' Again,* if others told you this, then I would not have to, and I could go sailing and do other things you know I enjoy, like art and music and some Fine Particle Physics research for you. I quote: ** As song birds at dawn on the farm awaken the early risers, one person is already up; in fact, he never slept - not once in the past 33 years. ' You'd think, going without sleep for that long may have its drawbacks, but not for the man in Vietnam's central Quang Nam province, who has never been ill after decades of staying awake. ' His ability to stay awake has not only made him famous, but also represents a phenomenon worthy of study. ' ' Sixty-four-year-old Vietnamese citizen Thai Ngoc, known as Hai Ngoc, said he stayed awake permanently after running a fever in 1973, *(1) and counted more than 11,700 consecutive days of staying awake. Proving his health as a farmer, as an elderly resident of the Que Trung farming commune, in the Que Son district, he still can carry two 50 kg (100 pound) bags of fertilizer down 4 km (2.5 miles) of road, walking home, every day. ' ' Mr. Ngoc currently lives on his 5 ha (12 acres) farm at the foot of a mountain, busy with farming and taking care of pigs and chickens all day. His six children live at their house in Que Trung. Ngoc often does extra farm work, or guards his farm at night to prevent theft, and said it took him three months, using the extra time of nights, to dig two large ponds to raise fish. His neighbor, by the name of Vu, said Ngoc volunteered the help of beating the funeral drum during the night, and to guard the house of the relatives of the dead, so that these could take a nap. Neighbor Vu also said, that when the farming commune was planting sugar cane, several people asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight to go to work, since he was up anyway. ** (Quoted from, and, to remove the usual political and traditional 'lowest common average "equals" "true" and "normal"'-terminology and -viewpoint which we know so well from the Medical tradition - characterized by Medical arrogance, while strewn with Medical evil its arrogance covers so well - *(2) now edited out by me, to enhance and validate a benign, very well-meaning newspaper article, entitled 'Vietnam Man Stays Awake For Three Decades' - Reported by Vu Phuong Thao - Translated by Thu Thuy - Story from Thanh Nien News, published 14 Feb 2006 12:51:09 (GMT+7) - Copyright Thanh Nien News) ' I will add more in due course, if nobody else has the courage to take up this unimaginably vital and hugely humanitarian subject. Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity" human rights philosopher and poet Sooner or later, I will inevitably come down on anyone who tries to harm others: I love people that intensely. Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity" human rights philosopher and poet __________ References: [First Law of Human Rights] * [Intro to Head of State] [Justice] _________ Footnotes: (1) [His body's reaction in order to reject certain harmful Energies] 'Defining The Major Harmful Or Bad Energies - As They Are Created And Projected By Criminal Minds' {HRI 20030611} (11 June 2003) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.c...8a8ef2de?fwc=1 (2) 'A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind' (13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...ca8ce9dc?fwc=1 (13 February 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...040b6719?fwc=1 ' ____________ Verification: http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld Copyright 2006 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher and poet This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for anyone who learns from it, and (even if he can not learn from it) who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included, to others who might be able to learn from it. None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political or religious or scientific agenda, but only to educate, and to encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves, about any organizations or individuals. Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to: PlatoWorld at Lycos.com (address unreadable for Internet robots - replace ' at ' with the '@' symbol) |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You NeedSleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
gringo wrote:
wrote: Ok...so, what's the point? Does everything have to have a point? Can't some things be posted simply for the human interest? Only if they are interesting ... and this isn't. Matt |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
"gringo" wrote in message .. . wrote: Ok...so, what's the point? Does everything have to have a point? Can't some things be posted simply for the human interest? Sure, but can you learn to SNIP ****? Maybe keep only what is RELEVANT.?? I really don't understand people's lack of basic deletion so that you don't have to look throguh tons of CRAP just to see someone one line BS. Learn to use DELETE! |
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Learn to use DELETE! ok |
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Learn to use DELETE!
ok Very good :) Now everyone else learn by example. -- Chris W KE5GIX Gift Giving Made Easy Get the gifts you want & give the gifts they want One stop wish list for any gift, from anywhere, for any occasion! http://thewishzone.com |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
TruckingNoob wrote:
Sure, but can you learn to SNIP ****? Maybe keep only what is RELEVANT.?? I really don't understand people's lack of basic deletion so that you don't have to look throguh tons of CRAP just to see someone one line BS. Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For example, with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with the Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better. -- Peter |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
Peter R. wrote: Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For example, with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with the Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better. -- Peter But most are nothing but a PITA |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
"Peter R." wrote in message ... Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For example, with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with the Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better. In that case I must say you are very short sighted. And no it's not a flame. But I know people in thier 80's that could show people about computers and the internet. And not just in thier 80's. Never for one minute assume that there isn't a boundless amount of people of ALL background types out here, in and on usenet, as well as the internet. That included less desirables as well. |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
"Peter R." wrote in message
... TruckingNoob wrote: Sure, but can you learn to SNIP ****? Maybe keep only what is RELEVANT.?? I really don't understand people's lack of basic deletion so that you don't have to look throguh tons of CRAP just to see someone one line BS. Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For example, with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with the Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better. FYI, I'm an over the road driver, somewhere in -any- of the Lower 48, 28 days a month or more. I have about 20,000 posts /10 yrs on Usenet (primarily in Rec.scuba), and I have broadband PCS in the truck. As a wildly unsupportable guess, I'd say about 40% of OTR drivers have a notebook in the truck. They are, at least, far from uncommon. We use them for work as well as recreation. Mapping routes and destinations, book keeping, and locating facilities like truck scales, maintenance facilities, and fuel stops, all on the internet. For recreation I dock my iPod, and download books on tape, and play then via the truck's sound system. DVDs of course. Mounted on a Jottodesk made specifically for Freightliner. Also many truck stops offer Wife, as well as some state rest areas. -- Peter -- Popeye You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. -Capone www.finalprotectivefire.com |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
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"Popeye" wrote: Snip Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this is off topic? Thanks. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Popeye" wrote: Snip Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this is off topic? Thanks. -- Telamon Ventura, California Or instead of being a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna, you could just ignore the thread. You're welcome. Popeye Gatlinburg, Tennessee |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
"Popeye" wrote in message ... For recreation I dock my iPod, and download books on tape, and play then via the truck's sound system. What I liked when I was out was the old radio shows. |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You NeedSleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
Popeye wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Popeye" wrote: Snip Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this is off topic? Thanks. -- Telamon Ventura, California Or instead of being a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna, you could just ignore the thread. You're welcome. Popeye Gatlinburg, Tennessee [Telamon is] "a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna" works for you. "sanctimonious hypocrite" works for me... |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
"Dick Chisel" wrote in message . com... Popeye wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Popeye" wrote: Snip Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this is off topic? Thanks. Or instead of being a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna, you could just ignore the thread. You're welcome. [Telamon is] "a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna" works for you. "sanctimonious hypocrite" works for me... cough |
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Learn to use DELETE! ok |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
I was hoping that this might be a thread about staying awake on long
flights, but apparently not. How _does_ one stay awake on a long flight as the sole pilot aboard? I know that commercial pilots doze off frequently enough on long flights, although they are reluctant to officially admit it. But then there are usually at least two qualified pilots and others who can wake them up. What do you do when you're the only pilot on board and you have to fly a really long distance? In the old days, staying awake was more a matter of life and death, as you had to manually fly the plane at all times. Today, with autopilot, you could drift off and survive, if you were lucky. So how does one avoid it? Or is it just not a good idea to fly long distances on one's own in an aircraft? This all applies to other forms of transportation, too, of course. Truckers and car drivers cannot afford to fall asleep at all. Boats might be more forgiving, at least in open water with good navigational aids and plenty of fuel (or wind). -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
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"Popeye" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Popeye" wrote: Snip Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this is off topic? Thanks. -- Telamon Ventura, California Or instead of being a Snip Sorry that my simple request was to much for you to handle. Plonk -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
"Telamon" wrote in message
... In article , "Popeye" wrote: Snip Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this is off topic? Thanks. -- Telamon Ventura, California Or instead of being a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna, you could just ignore the thread. You're welcome. Snip Sorry that my simple request was to much for you to handle. Plonk Oh! No! I've been -Plonked-! What a dick. Thanks for -verifying- that Usenet prima-donna crack empirically. -- Popeye You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. -Capone www.finalprotectivefire.com |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:23:00 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: In the old days, staying awake was more a matter of life and death, as you had to manually fly the plane at all times. Today, with autopilot, you could drift off and survive, if you were lucky. So how does one avoid it? Or is it just not a good idea to fly long distances on one's own in an aircraft? You could break the flight up into shorter hops, landing to walk around or take a short nap. Is it legal to listen to music? (I'm not a pilot, so I don't know.) -- Bill Funk replace "g" with "a" |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
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"Popeye" wrote: Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For example, with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with the Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better. FYI, I'm an over the road driver, somewhere in -any- of the Lower 48, 28 days a month or more. I have about 20,000 posts /10 yrs on Usenet (primarily in Rec.scuba), and I have broadband PCS in the truck. As a wildly unsupportable guess, I'd say about 40% of OTR drivers have a notebook in the truck. Can they actually use them? Or is it, like, (waving a notebook out the window): "hey gal, want a ride?"... |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
"Huss Mohrens" wrote in message ... In article , "Popeye" wrote: Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For example, with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with the Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better. FYI, I'm an over the road driver, somewhere in -any- of the Lower 48, 28 days a month or more. I have about 20,000 posts /10 yrs on Usenet (primarily in Rec.scuba), and I have broadband PCS in the truck. As a wildly unsupportable guess, I'd say about 40% of OTR drivers have a notebook in the truck. Can they actually use them? Or is it, like, (waving a notebook out the window): "hey gal, want a ride?"... Uh...,I dunno. Is -this- the best you can do with yours? -- Popeye You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. -Capone www.finalprotectivefire.com |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
In article ,
"Popeye" wrote: "Huss Mohrens" wrote in message ... In article , "Popeye" wrote: Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For example, with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with the Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better. FYI, I'm an over the road driver, somewhere in -any- of the Lower 48, 28 days a month or more. I have about 20,000 posts /10 yrs on Usenet (primarily in Rec.scuba), and I have broadband PCS in the truck. As a wildly unsupportable guess, I'd say about 40% of OTR drivers have a notebook in the truck. Can they actually use them? Or is it, like, (waving a notebook out the window): "hey gal, want a ride?"... Uh...,I dunno. Is -this- the best you can do with yours? I don't, but I guess to a trucker it would make some practical sense? At least it could keep you guys awake. |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
Bill Funk writes:
You could break the flight up into shorter hops, landing to walk around or take a short nap. The overhead, time, and expense of landing and taking off again would tend to discourage dividing the trip into hops, I should think. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
Original Gashauler wrote: "Popeye" wrote in message ... For recreation I dock my iPod, and download books on tape, and play then via the truck's sound system. What I liked when I was out was the old radio shows. I've been listening to those lately on XM. Especially the old comedy shows like Jack Benny, Burns and Allen and even Red Skelton. Skelton's hilarious. If he forgets lines he just ad libs. I think he was the Robin Williams of my parents generation. I also like the old westerns line the Lone Ranger and even Hopalong Cassidy. It's interesting listening to the Gunsmoke radio shows. I grew up watching James Arness play Matt Dillon on the TV series but on the radio shows it was Robert Conrad playing that role. |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:12:03 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: Bill Funk writes: You could break the flight up into shorter hops, landing to walk around or take a short nap. The overhead, time, and expense of landing and taking off again would tend to discourage dividing the trip into hops, I should think. It would beat falling asleep, wouldn't it? -- Bill Funk replace "g" with "a" |
Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}
Bill Funk writes:
It would beat falling asleep, wouldn't it? True. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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