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Harry Krause wrote:
From USA TODAY, 8/29/06:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...e_x.htm?csp=34


Americans without health insurance rise as job-based coverage
continues to fall

Why is it your employer's responsibility to provide you with health
insurance? There was a time, not too long ago, when you paid for all of
your own medical and dental needs.

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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...


Harry Krause wrote:
From USA TODAY, 8/29/06:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...e_x.htm?csp=34
Americans without health insurance rise as job-based coverage
continues to fall

Why is it your employer's responsibility to provide you with health
insurance? There was a time, not too long ago, when you paid for all of
your own medical and dental needs.

Because harry, being a run of the mill socialist loser, doesn't believe
in personal responsibility.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:


Why is it your employer's responsibility to provide you with health
insurance? There was a time, not too long ago, when you paid for all of
your own medical and dental needs.



I'm 62, shi*-for brains. I've had full-time work for about 40 years. Every
employer I've ever had provided health insurance as a part of the employee
compensation package. It was always considered a part of wages, but
payable in a different form.

I am not old enough to recall a time that Bert describes, however there's a
big difference in the cost of employer provided health insurance today when
compared to that of even 20 years ago.
It was the introduction of HMO's that started the upward spiral of family
and individual premium costs.
Employer funded health insurance (total or partial) today is a major
component of an employee's compensation package and of the employer's
operating costs. 20-40 years ago it was a relatively minor cost component.

Eisboch

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Bert Robbins wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
From USA TODAY, 8/29/06:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...e_x.htm?csp=34


Americans without health insurance rise as job-based coverage
continues to fall

Why is it your employer's responsibility to provide you with health
insurance? There was a time, not too long ago, when you paid for all of
your own medical and dental needs.

It's part of the compensation package, dummy. Here, I'll pay you X
amount of dollars a year, and give you medical and dental coverage.
It's a win win situation. The employer doesn't pay as much as you would
individually, because it's a group plan.

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It's the lawyers and the third party payor system that has sent the
cost of health care and insurance so high. They have too good a
lobbying system so that will probably never change. We need to get our
health care in other countries to make it affordable. Now wouldn't THAT
be funny... headlines in 2010:

"Millions of Americans enter Mexico illegally to gain access to
affordable health care"

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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:35:48 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
From USA TODAY, 8/29/06:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...e_x.htm?csp=34


Americans without health insurance rise as job-based coverage
continues to fall

Why is it your employer's responsibility to provide you with health
insurance? There was a time, not too long ago, when you paid for all of
your own medical and dental needs.


I'm 62, shi*-for brains. I've had full-time work for about 40 years.

Harry, you're 62, shi*-for-brains, ..... and what? Did you lose a modifier
there somewhere?
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John

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Keith wrote:
It's the lawyers and the third party payor system that has sent the
cost of health care and insurance so high. They have too good a
lobbying system so that will probably never change. We need to get our
health care in other countries to make it affordable. Now wouldn't THAT
be funny... headlines in 2010:

"Millions of Americans enter Mexico illegally to gain access to
affordable health care"


Don't laugh. That was a problem here with people from Maine having
fradulent New Brunswick health cards and coming over the border for
their medical care.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
From USA TODAY, 8/29/06:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...e_x.htm?csp=34


Nowadays, thanks to the Republican credo of greed, corporations have
negated the social compact that once existed so they can put more money in
the pockets of everyone except the employees.

By "corporations", I assume you mean large corporations that conduct
interstate commerce and have subsidiaries in multiple states. Because those
are not the corporations who are not providing health insurance for their
workers. It's small "S Corps", LLC's and LLP's who aren't providing
insurance...because it's unaffordable.


We don't have the same buying power as large corporations because 43
Democratic Senators have found a way to obstruct a vote on giving small
businesses the same opportunity to buy health insurance across state lines
through national associations.



http://www.nfib.com/page/SBHPs.html

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-1955

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Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

I'm 62, shi*-for brains. I've had full-time work for about 40 years.
Every employer I've ever had provided health insurance as a part of the
employee compensation package. It was always considered a part of wages,
but payable in a different form. That practice didn't begin with me
reaching the age of majority. Next time there's a line for brainpower,
try waiting for it instead of running off to join the marines.

Nowadays, thanks to the Republican credo of greed, corporations have
negated the social compact that once existed so they can put more money
in the pockets of everyone except the employees. A huge underclass is
being created in this country, and it is getting larger every day.

Someday, I hope, and probably after I am gone, there will a social
revolution of sorts in this country and asshol*s like you will find
their heads on pikes.


Harry, you are a schmuck in the first degree.

You have no right to health insurance. Period. Maybe you found your own
penumbra in the Constitution along with all your other puff dreams of a
government sponsored utopia?

You and the other members of the gimmeee class of liberals think it's
owed to you because, well, there is no because. You're just so damn
special that somebody owes you. Think again.

I'm 62 also. I have bought my own insurance all my life. Employers
didn't owe me any more than I negotiated. And for the 20+ years before
I retired I had my own through my own businesses. At my cost. And my
choice. And now in my golden years, I pay over $900 per month to Kaiser
to be sure an illness doesn't wipe me out financially. That's simply
how it is and I accept it.

You demand something better 'cause it's just not fair the way things
are in a free country. I suggest you look to Cuba for the future of
your utopian dreams.

Give it up, already. Quit your whining about medical, Bush, Republicans
in general and every other sniveling disappointment in life. You make
other liberals look bad.

Now then, Shortshooter, AssKisser, JoeBackPorch and the rest of your
water carriers can all jump in with your usual gangbang style of name
calling - and think you're actually debating some issue. The whole gang
of you wouldn't be able to win a debate with a fourth grader.

Dale

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FishWisher wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

I'm 62, shi*-for brains. I've had full-time work for about 40 years.
Every employer I've ever had provided health insurance as a part of the
employee compensation package. It was always considered a part of wages,
but payable in a different form. That practice didn't begin with me
reaching the age of majority. Next time there's a line for brainpower,
try waiting for it instead of running off to join the marines.

Nowadays, thanks to the Republican credo of greed, corporations have
negated the social compact that once existed so they can put more money
in the pockets of everyone except the employees. A huge underclass is
being created in this country, and it is getting larger every day.

Someday, I hope, and probably after I am gone, there will a social
revolution of sorts in this country and asshol*s like you will find
their heads on pikes.


Harry, you are a schmuck in the first degree.

You have no right to health insurance. Period. Maybe you found your own
penumbra in the Constitution along with all your other puff dreams of a
government sponsored utopia?

You and the other members of the gimmeee class of liberals think it's
owed to you because, well, there is no because. You're just so damn
special that somebody owes you. Think again.

I'm 62 also. I have bought my own insurance all my life. Employers
didn't owe me any more than I negotiated. And for the 20+ years before
I retired I had my own through my own businesses. At my cost. And my
choice. And now in my golden years, I pay over $900 per month to Kaiser
to be sure an illness doesn't wipe me out financially. That's simply
how it is and I accept it.

You demand something better 'cause it's just not fair the way things
are in a free country. I suggest you look to Cuba for the future of
your utopian dreams.

Give it up, already. Quit your whining about medical, Bush, Republicans
in general and every other sniveling disappointment in life. You make
other liberals look bad.

Now then, Shortshooter, AssKisser, JoeBackPorch and the rest of your
water carriers can all jump in with your usual gangbang style of name
calling - and think you're actually debating some issue. The whole gang
of you wouldn't be able to win a debate with a fourth grader.

Dale

I wish you'd get your boat back. You're childish and petty name calling
does wonders for your credibility.

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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
FishWisher wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
I'm 62, shi*-for brains. I've had full-time work for about 40 years.
Every employer I've ever had provided health insurance as a part of the
employee compensation package. It was always considered a part of wages,
but payable in a different form. That practice didn't begin with me
reaching the age of majority. Next time there's a line for brainpower,
try waiting for it instead of running off to join the marines.

Nowadays, thanks to the Republican credo of greed, corporations have
negated the social compact that once existed so they can put more money
in the pockets of everyone except the employees. A huge underclass is
being created in this country, and it is getting larger every day.

Someday, I hope, and probably after I am gone, there will a social
revolution of sorts in this country and asshol*s like you will find
their heads on pikes.

Harry, you are a schmuck in the first degree.

You have no right to health insurance. Period. Maybe you found your own
penumbra in the Constitution along with all your other puff dreams of a
government sponsored utopia?

You and the other members of the gimmeee class of liberals think it's
owed to you because, well, there is no because. You're just so damn
special that somebody owes you. Think again.

I'm 62 also. I have bought my own insurance all my life. Employers
didn't owe me any more than I negotiated. And for the 20+ years before
I retired I had my own through my own businesses. At my cost. And my
choice. And now in my golden years, I pay over $900 per month to Kaiser
to be sure an illness doesn't wipe me out financially. That's simply
how it is and I accept it.

You demand something better 'cause it's just not fair the way things
are in a free country. I suggest you look to Cuba for the future of
your utopian dreams.

Give it up, already. Quit your whining about medical, Bush, Republicans
in general and every other sniveling disappointment in life. You make
other liberals look bad.

Now then, Shortshooter, AssKisser, JoeBackPorch and the rest of your
water carriers can all jump in with your usual gangbang style of name
calling - and think you're actually debating some issue. The whole gang
of you wouldn't be able to win a debate with a fourth grader.

Dale

I wish you'd get your boat back. You're childish and petty name calling
does wonders for your credibility.



Dale reminds me of the frat pledge who, when bent over and whacked on
the ass with a paddle by one of the "brothers," says, "thank you, sir:
may I have another?"

Good analogy! Watch, he'll be back!