On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:32:13 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

It appears that I was pretty close on the over weight issue -
according to the weights I was given by the manufacturer, the boat
must be 900 lbs overweight.

Does Ranger have a hull warranty of some sort? That might be one
avenue to explore. I'd bet almost anything you've got water in the
foam flotation or in the core material.

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:06:43 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Actually, it's more like we need to figure out how to find out if
there is water there because of the way it's made, it's pretty much
one unit.

A surveyors moisture meter could probably detect water in the core but
water in the flotation foam would be difficult to verify without
cutting one or more access ports (assuming there aren't any now).

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:32:13 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

It appears that I was pretty close on the over weight issue -
according to the weights I was given by the manufacturer, the boat
must be 900 lbs overweight.

Does Ranger have a hull warranty of some sort? That might be one
avenue to explore. I'd bet almost anything you've got water in the
foam flotation or in the core material.


I have been thinking the same except ....
I think Tom trailers the boat, meaning it is not left in the water. In
order to get much absorbed water through any sections of permeable glass you
would think it would have to sit the water more.

Unless ... he has a leaking add-on below the waterline .... depth finder
head ... speedometer paddle wheel ... or a crack in the hull someplace.

Eisboch

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:53:14 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Unless ... he has a leaking add-on below the waterline .... depth finder
head ... speedometer paddle wheel ... or a crack in the hull someplace.

Or unless it can leak in from above with rain water, spray, etc.

"Eisboch" wrote:
Unless ... he has a leaking add-on below the waterline .... depth finder
head ... speedometer paddle wheel ... or a crack in the hull someplace.


Wayne.B wrote:
Or unless it can leak in from above with rain water, spray, etc.


That would be my first suspect, but it'd definitely be worth
while to make a serious hunt for those other problems too. A
crack in the hull might produce noticable noise & flexing
when underway, but then again it might not.

Rain is a very seriouos culprit for trailerable boats....
also sinks more in-water boats than anything else.

DSK

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:49:12 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:53:14 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:32:13 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

It appears that I was pretty close on the over weight issue -
according to the weights I was given by the manufacturer, the boat
must be 900 lbs overweight.

Does Ranger have a hull warranty of some sort? That might be one
avenue to explore. I'd bet almost anything you've got water in the
foam flotation or in the core material.


I have been thinking the same except ....
I think Tom trailers the boat, meaning it is not left in the water. In
order to get much absorbed water through any sections of permeable glass you
would think it would have to sit the water more.

Unless ... he has a leaking add-on below the waterline .... depth finder
head ... speedometer paddle wheel ... or a crack in the hull someplace.

There are three or four possibilities - A leaking live well fitting, a
collision of some sort prior to my purchase (which is possible knowing
who the guide was who had the boat before me) which was repaired on
the sly, something above the water like Wayne mentioned (leaking hatch
cover, etc) or a porous section of fiberglass which just doesn't seem
likely.

Of the three, Wayne's was what I was thinking. The problem is how the
boat is built - all the hatches run into the hull which exits out the
drain plug - not all that unusual. If there is a blocked drain or
interior hull drain there would be 104 gallons of water in the hull.
That's a lot of water and would take up a lot of space which just
doesn't seem likely.

Thus, the culprit is probably a combination of two things - bad foam
and leaking hatch covers.

As of today, I'm still mulling this over. I'm really not in the mood
as the Remicade treatment this morning didn't go well and I'm in a
really mean mood - it's not a good time to discuss things with either
the builder or the dealer. :)

My live well was not formed as part of the deck, but was screwed up
underneath the deck prior to it's installation. Apparently, they forgot to
caulk the seam where the well met the deck. I didn'd realize this for a
couple years, until a couple coils rusted up. Then the mechanic asked me
where all the water was coming from. I traced it to the live well. The
water would slosh around and come out the uncaulked seam. Luckily, what
came out eventually went into the bilge.

But, it's worth looking into.
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John

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:53:14 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:32:13 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

It appears that I was pretty close on the over weight issue -
according to the weights I was given by the manufacturer, the boat
must be 900 lbs overweight.

Does Ranger have a hull warranty of some sort? That might be one
avenue to explore. I'd bet almost anything you've got water in the
foam flotation or in the core material.


I have been thinking the same except ....
I think Tom trailers the boat, meaning it is not left in the water. In
order to get much absorbed water through any sections of permeable
glass you
would think it would have to sit the water more.

Unless ... he has a leaking add-on below the waterline .... depth
finder
head ... speedometer paddle wheel ... or a crack in the hull someplace.

There are three or four possibilities - A leaking live well fitting, a
collision of some sort prior to my purchase (which is possible knowing
who the guide was who had the boat before me) which was repaired on
the sly, something above the water like Wayne mentioned (leaking hatch
cover, etc) or a porous section of fiberglass which just doesn't seem
likely.

Of the three, Wayne's was what I was thinking. The problem is how the
boat is built - all the hatches run into the hull which exits out the
drain plug - not all that unusual. If there is a blocked drain or
interior hull drain there would be 104 gallons of water in the hull.
That's a lot of water and would take up a lot of space which just
doesn't seem likely.

Thus, the culprit is probably a combination of two things - bad foam
and leaking hatch covers.

As of today, I'm still mulling this over. I'm really not in the mood
as the Remicade treatment this morning didn't go well and I'm in a
really mean mood - it's not a good time to discuss things with either
the builder or the dealer. :)

please email me at delcecchi at yahoo dot com
I am interested in your Remicade experience.