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drake August 18th 06 03:09 PM

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I joined this group as i thought I might learn something about boats
but all I see is petty bickering, foul language and outright racism.
All this stuff I don't need to hear about so I am out of here.

Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out. I wonder how
many others have left cause of these problems as well.

Rob


Chuck Gould August 18th 06 03:24 PM

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drake wrote:
I joined this group as i thought I might learn something about boats


Sorry that your dozens of questions were ignored by the participants
here.

but all I see is petty bickering, foul language and outright racism.



Most of the racism is cross posted from other groups. We have one or
more rec.boats participants who frequent some of those boards, and the
garbage sort of sticks to their shoes. Petty bickering and foul
language? Yeah- but you should have seen us last year.
If all you can see is the negative stuff, you aren't looking very hard.

All this stuff I don't need to hear about so I am out of here.


G'bye.


Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out. I wonder how
many others have left cause of these problems as well.


Hundreds over the years.

There are a couple of moderated sites you might enjoy. They don't allow
any political statements (unless they agree with the moderator's point
of view) and they tend to be commercial fronts for specific products
and services.....(just try to post something negative about a towing
service, etc, on some of them)....but you won't see much name calling.

Good luck


D Wilkie August 18th 06 03:43 PM

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"drake" wrote in message
oups.com...
I joined this group as i thought I might learn something about boats
but all I see is petty bickering, foul language and outright racism.
All this stuff I don't need to hear about so I am out of here.

Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out. I wonder how
many others have left cause of these problems as well.

Rob


Hmmmmm........just goes to show how people perceive things differently, I
was just going to post about how friendly, civil, and helpful this group
seems to be. I've only been lurking a few months, but if you want to see
foul language, petty bickering, and outright racism, you should check into a
couple of the "musical" groups I subscribe to (I'm a weekend
musician)..........would make this group seem tame by comparison. But
everyone has their own opinions, and should be respected for them......just
my observations.
Thanks



JoeSpareBedroom August 18th 06 04:39 PM

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"drake" wrote in message
oups.com...
I joined this group as i thought I might learn something about boats
but all I see is petty bickering, foul language and outright racism.
All this stuff I don't need to hear about so I am out of here.

Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out. I wonder how
many others have left cause of these problems as well.

Rob


I see you use Mozilla as your news reader. When you see each subject, are
you also seeing all the replies automatically, or are they collapsed until
you expand them?



Wayne.B August 18th 06 06:52 PM

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:43:43 GMT, "D Wilkie"
wrote:


Hmmmmm........just goes to show how people perceive things differently, I
was just going to post about how friendly, civil, and helpful this group
seems to be.


That is absolutely true for the most part. There are maybe half a
dozen "Kill File" candidates, and after they have been properly
dispatched, the rest of the group looks fairly good these days.

Reasonable questions usually get a bunch of good answers.


Bryan August 18th 06 09:56 PM

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"drake" wrote in message
oups.com...
I joined this group as i thought I might learn something about boats
but all I see is petty bickering, foul language and outright racism.
All this stuff I don't need to hear about so I am out of here.

Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out. I wonder how
many others have left cause of these problems as well.

Rob


You don't have to read everything written.
When the material is off topic, or becomes off topic, you don't have to read
the material.
When the material is on topic you can read the material to your hearts
content.

I am a rookie powerboat owner and have gained a lifetime of boating-related
knowledge from this group over the last year.

The choice is yours.

I agree that the ****ing and moaning and name calling are a real
disappointment, but the boating discussions are invaluable. Even the
****ers and moaners and name callers have useful contributions when they are
discussing boating.

Good luck with your choice and if you find a better interactive resource,
shout it out.




Brazilla August 18th 06 10:06 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:
Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 18 Aug 2006 07:09:21 -0700, "drake" wrote:

I joined this group as i thought I might learn something about boats
but all I see is petty bickering, foul language and outright racism.
All this stuff I don't need to hear about so I am out of here.

Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out. I wonder how
many others have left cause of these problems as well.

Rob


It's an outrage. I think you should demand a full refund!

CWM



Drake who? I can't recall one post from he, she, or it.


I only joined last week and have found the site very informative. I've
only asked 1 question and with the exception of getting the
question...."Why does a boat with 130 hours have a new engine?" about
six times by the same guy, the answers were prompt and well written.
I've enjoyed reading the boards alot. Just MHO


Eisboch August 18th 06 10:23 PM

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"Brazilla" wrote in message
ups.com...

I only joined last week and have found the site very informative. I've
only asked 1 question and with the exception of getting the
question...."Why does a boat with 130 hours have a new engine?" about
six times by the same guy, the answers were prompt and well written.
I've enjoyed reading the boards alot. Just MHO


I wuz confused.

Eisboch



Bert Robbins August 18th 06 11:21 PM

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drake wrote:
I joined this group as i thought I might learn something about boats
but all I see is petty bickering, foul language and outright racism.
All this stuff I don't need to hear about so I am out of here.

Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out. I wonder how
many others have left cause of these problems as well.


You don't join a newsgroup, all you do is read and post.



Brazilla August 19th 06 12:35 AM

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Eisboch wrote:
"Brazilla" wrote in message
ups.com...

I only joined last week and have found the site very informative. I've
only asked 1 question and with the exception of getting the
question...."Why does a boat with 130 hours have a new engine?" about
six times by the same guy, the answers were prompt and well written.
I've enjoyed reading the boards alot. Just MHO


I wuz confused.

Eisboch




NP :)


Mr Wizzard August 19th 06 01:32 AM

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"drake" wrote in message
oups.com...

I joined this group


Well, there is no "joining" of this group - it is a freely
available open Public, unmoderated Usenet newgroup
that doen't require anyone to "join",


Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out.


Too bad for you maybe. Look it, public, unmoderated
Usenet newsgroups are not for everyone - thats why
there is so many non-public, private forums out there.
Please don't bag on open, unmoderated Usenet groups
just because it doesn't suit your needs. Remember,
information generated from these open Usenet forums
are the basis for the data used in 'Google searches'. So
down the road when you google-search "how do I ..."
you may be drawing on information that was generated
from a open, public Usenet newsgroup.


I wonder how many others have left cause of these
problems as well.


Probably a few. Again, public Usenet newsgroups
arn't always for the faint of heart - some have more
thin skin than others. Thats why people start private
forums. Personally, I think the public ones have more
information simply because they reach a wider audiance.
I'm not saying that its "bad" that you may have thiner
skin than the next guy or whatever, just putting it into
perspective for you, thats all (and trying to understand
why you are "announcing" that you are leaving a public
Usenet newsgroup - were you expecting to change the
public or something ?)





Rob




jesse August 19th 06 01:05 PM

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I agree with Mr Wizard. I don't have the time to sort through it all
with a large portion of it being negative. And who ever put that post
about the Annapolis student on this site was just wrong whether it was
trash on his shoe or not. I signed up for the e-mail alerts so I could
read about everything boating not to read the bullying that usually
takes place. The Langley subject was great by the way and I will
probably head across the sound and check it out. I just think that if
people are getting off the subject or razzing someone they should try a
different venue. In the words of G Bush Sr as done by Dana Carvey on
SNL, Boating posts good, Negative posts Bad, Bad. George is a fishman
too. Fishes out of a Fountain.

Jesse

Mr Wizzard wrote:
"drake" wrote in message
oups.com...

I joined this group


Well, there is no "joining" of this group - it is a freely
available open Public, unmoderated Usenet newgroup
that doen't require anyone to "join",


Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out.


Too bad for you maybe. Look it, public, unmoderated
Usenet newsgroups are not for everyone - thats why
there is so many non-public, private forums out there.
Please don't bag on open, unmoderated Usenet groups
just because it doesn't suit your needs. Remember,
information generated from these open Usenet forums
are the basis for the data used in 'Google searches'. So
down the road when you google-search "how do I ..."
you may be drawing on information that was generated
from a open, public Usenet newsgroup.


I wonder how many others have left cause of these
problems as well.


Probably a few. Again, public Usenet newsgroups
arn't always for the faint of heart - some have more
thin skin than others. Thats why people start private
forums. Personally, I think the public ones have more
information simply because they reach a wider audiance.
I'm not saying that its "bad" that you may have thiner
skin than the next guy or whatever, just putting it into
perspective for you, thats all (and trying to understand
why you are "announcing" that you are leaving a public
Usenet newsgroup - were you expecting to change the
public or something ?)





Rob



JoeSpareBedroom August 19th 06 04:05 PM

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Do you read all the boat-related messages?


"jesse" wrote in message
ps.com...
I agree with Mr Wizard. I don't have the time to sort through it all
with a large portion of it being negative. And who ever put that post
about the Annapolis student on this site was just wrong whether it was
trash on his shoe or not. I signed up for the e-mail alerts so I could
read about everything boating not to read the bullying that usually
takes place. The Langley subject was great by the way and I will
probably head across the sound and check it out. I just think that if
people are getting off the subject or razzing someone they should try a
different venue. In the words of G Bush Sr as done by Dana Carvey on
SNL, Boating posts good, Negative posts Bad, Bad. George is a fishman
too. Fishes out of a Fountain.

Jesse

Mr Wizzard wrote:
"drake" wrote in message
oups.com...

I joined this group


Well, there is no "joining" of this group - it is a freely
available open Public, unmoderated Usenet newgroup
that doen't require anyone to "join",


Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out.


Too bad for you maybe. Look it, public, unmoderated
Usenet newsgroups are not for everyone - thats why
there is so many non-public, private forums out there.
Please don't bag on open, unmoderated Usenet groups
just because it doesn't suit your needs. Remember,
information generated from these open Usenet forums
are the basis for the data used in 'Google searches'. So
down the road when you google-search "how do I ..."
you may be drawing on information that was generated
from a open, public Usenet newsgroup.


I wonder how many others have left cause of these
problems as well.


Probably a few. Again, public Usenet newsgroups
arn't always for the faint of heart - some have more
thin skin than others. Thats why people start private
forums. Personally, I think the public ones have more
information simply because they reach a wider audiance.
I'm not saying that its "bad" that you may have thiner
skin than the next guy or whatever, just putting it into
perspective for you, thats all (and trying to understand
why you are "announcing" that you are leaving a public
Usenet newsgroup - were you expecting to change the
public or something ?)





Rob





Chuck Gould August 19th 06 04:26 PM

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jesse wrote:
George is a fishman
too. Fishes out of a Fountain.


Is that really sporting? I mean, what chance do the poor fish have if
they're swimming around in a fountain? :-)


RLM August 19th 06 06:02 PM

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On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:05:37 -0700, jesse wrote:

I agree with Mr Wizard. I don't have the time to sort through it all
with a large portion of it being negative. And who ever put that post
about the Annapolis student on this site was just wrong whether it was
trash on his shoe or not. I signed up for the e-mail alerts so I could
read about everything boating not to read the bullying that usually
takes place. The Langley subject was great by the way and I will
probably head across the sound and check it out. I just think that if
people are getting off the subject or razzing someone they should try a
different venue. In the words of G Bush Sr as done by Dana Carvey on
SNL, Boating posts good, Negative posts Bad, Bad. George is a fishman
too. Fishes out of a Fountain.

Jesse

Mr Wizzard wrote:
"drake" wrote in message
oups.com...

I joined this group


Well, there is no "joining" of this group - it is a freely available
open Public, unmoderated Usenet newgroup that doen't require anyone to
"join",


Too bad there are no moderators to keep this stuff out.


Too bad for you maybe. Look it, public, unmoderated Usenet newsgroups
are not for everyone - thats why there is so many non-public, private
forums out there. Please don't bag on open, unmoderated Usenet groups
just because it doesn't suit your needs. Remember, information
generated from these open Usenet forums are the basis for the data used
in 'Google searches'. So down the road when you google-search "how do I
..." you may be drawing on information that was generated from a open,
public Usenet newsgroup.


I wonder how many others have left cause of these problems as well.


Probably a few. Again, public Usenet newsgroups arn't always for the
faint of heart - some have more thin skin than others. Thats why people
start private forums. Personally, I think the public ones have more
information simply because they reach a wider audiance. I'm not saying
that its "bad" that you may have thiner skin than the next guy or
whatever, just putting it into perspective for you, thats all (and
trying to understand why you are "announcing" that you are leaving a
public Usenet newsgroup - were you expecting to change the public or
something ?)


Rob


After reading these links and the supporting links, found at these links
you will have a basic understanding of "usenet". This will help you decide
that, if you want to continue reading post on usenet, why a "newsreader"
program would be more help than using Google for anything other than a
search engine.


noob rules
http://tgos.org/newbie/rules.html

Google FAQ.
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=250

How to Quote using Google.
http://groups.google.com/support/bin...y?answer=14213

How do I quote correctly in Usenet?
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

How to post a smart question that will get readers attention.
http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Netiquette.
http://www.albion.com/netiquette/




Links to download different "newsreaders".

Mozilla-Thunderbird possibly the most common and best choise for Windows
users right now.
http://www.download.com/Mozilla-Thun...ml?tag=lst-0-2

Fort-Agent - Recomended by many windows users.
http://www.download.com/Forte-Agent/...ml?tag=lst-0-4

Xnews is a good newsreader but some have complained about difficulty in
configuration. No longer being developed but has good strong support in
the group, news.software.readers.
http://www.download.com/Xnews/3000-2...ml?tag=lst-0-1

Please don't bother to use Outhouse Express. It's second only to Google as
the worst way to access usenet.

As a closing thought.
PREPARE TO TACK!

--
For Rob,
Use "space Dash Dash" then place signature below. Signature will be
deleted when replied to by the next poster. This avoids confusion.
Signature should be limited to four lines or less.

Mr Wizzard August 20th 06 10:32 PM

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"RLM" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:05:37 -0700, jesse wrote:


noob rules
http://tgos.org/newbie/rules.html


Minor correction..: noob "rules" above should read noob "guidelines"
( The article itelf makes this disclaimer right at the top ). Symantics...

But yeah, thanks for posting these links - they should be
helpful for thouse struggling with the realities of Usenet.




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