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FREDO August 17th 06 01:52 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 
I heard something about this on CNN this morning.
They lived by catching fish and rainwater.
That is totally amazing and nothing short of miraculous, some might say
divine intervention.
God must truly be with them.\

Fredo
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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RG August 17th 06 03:11 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 

"FREDO" wrote in message
. ..
I heard something about this on CNN this morning.
They lived by catching fish and rainwater.
That is totally amazing and nothing short of miraculous, some might say
divine intervention.
God must truly be with them.\


Perhaps, but I'm curious. Do you suppose it was divine intervention and God
was truly with them when both engines quit running? Or is it simply a case
of God arriving late to the scene and therefore getting a free pass in
regards to the "genesis" of the problem? I'm thinking it was simply a
matter of them being much better fishermen than they were mechanics.



~^ beancounter ~^ August 17th 06 03:58 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 
yea, "god" explains it quickly, so a small constricted
mind can go back to sleep.........what a kook....


RG wrote:
"FREDO" wrote in message
. ..
I heard something about this on CNN this morning.
They lived by catching fish and rainwater.
That is totally amazing and nothing short of miraculous, some might say
divine intervention.
God must truly be with them.\


Perhaps, but I'm curious. Do you suppose it was divine intervention and God
was truly with them when both engines quit running? Or is it simply a case
of God arriving late to the scene and therefore getting a free pass in
regards to the "genesis" of the problem? I'm thinking it was simply a
matter of them being much better fishermen than they were mechanics.



[email protected] August 17th 06 05:57 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 

RG wrote:
"FREDO" wrote in message
. ..
I heard something about this on CNN this morning.
They lived by catching fish and rainwater.
That is totally amazing and nothing short of miraculous, some might say
divine intervention.
God must truly be with them.\


Perhaps, but I'm curious. Do you suppose it was divine intervention and God
was truly with them when both engines quit running?


Test of faith, man.

Test of faith..


~^ beancounter ~^ August 17th 06 06:28 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 
is that what your little black book tells ya?



"Test of faith, man. Test of faith.."






wrote:
RG wrote:
"FREDO" wrote in message
. ..
I heard something about this on CNN this morning.
They lived by catching fish and rainwater.
That is totally amazing and nothing short of miraculous, some might say
divine intervention.
God must truly be with them.\


Perhaps, but I'm curious. Do you suppose it was divine intervention and God
was truly with them when both engines quit running?


Test of faith, man.

Test of faith..



JimH August 17th 06 06:29 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 

"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
oups.com...
is that what your little black book tells ya?



"Test of faith, man. Test of faith.."



Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?



Tom G August 17th 06 06:45 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

RG wrote:
"FREDO" wrote in message
. ..
I heard something about this on CNN this morning.
They lived by catching fish and rainwater.
That is totally amazing and nothing short of miraculous, some might say
divine intervention.
God must truly be with them.\


Perhaps, but I'm curious. Do you suppose it was divine intervention and
God
was truly with them when both engines quit running?


Test of faith, man.

Test of faith..


Or perhaps, the two missing guys who "jumped overboard" drew the "short"
straws. Seems I saw that in a movie once.

Tom G.



~^ beancounter ~^ August 17th 06 07:03 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 
"Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?"

i can question anything i want....esp. if religious kooks
are at war w/our country ........ do they talk about
that in the little black book...??






JimH wrote:
"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
oups.com...
is that what your little black book tells ya?



"Test of faith, man. Test of faith.."



Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?



[email protected] August 17th 06 08:32 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 


No one is knocking your athiestic views, so... why are you knocking any
ones faith?


~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
"Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?"

i can question anything i want....esp. if religious kooks
are at war w/our country ........ do they talk about
that in the little black book...??






JimH wrote:
"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
oups.com...
is that what your little black book tells ya?



"Test of faith, man. Test of faith.."



Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?



[email protected] August 17th 06 08:37 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 
Maybe they actuall died and the survivors ate 'em ????

I saw that in an airplane crash movie once, too!



Tom G wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

RG wrote:
"FREDO" wrote in message
. ..
I heard something about this on CNN this morning.
They lived by catching fish and rainwater.
That is totally amazing and nothing short of miraculous, some might say
divine intervention.
God must truly be with them.\


Perhaps, but I'm curious. Do you suppose it was divine intervention and
God
was truly with them when both engines quit running?


Test of faith, man.

Test of faith..


Or perhaps, the two missing guys who "jumped overboard" drew the "short"
straws. Seems I saw that in a movie once.

Tom G.



JimH August 17th 06 10:34 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 

"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
oups.com...
"Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?"

i can question anything i want....esp. if religious kooks
are at war w/our country ........ do they talk about
that in the little black book...??




Whatever..........you are not worth taking this any further.







JimH wrote:
"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
oups.com...
is that what your little black book tells ya?



"Test of faith, man. Test of faith.."



Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?





~^ beancounter ~^ August 17th 06 11:23 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 
"No one is knocking your athiestic views, so... why
are you knocking any ones faith?"

ummm...lets see...one reason would be religous folks
have vowed to destroy our country and kill all "non
believers".......





wrote:
No one is knocking your athiestic views, so... why are you knocking any
ones faith?


~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
"Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?"

i can question anything i want....esp. if religious kooks
are at war w/our country ........ do they talk about
that in the little black book...??






JimH wrote:
"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
oups.com...
is that what your little black book tells ya?



"Test of faith, man. Test of faith.."



Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?



WangoZtango August 18th 06 12:09 AM

18 months lost at sea?
 
That's a broad brush stroke that you paint for those you claim to be
'religious who are destroying your country'.....I took a trip to the
Carolinas not too long ago and I saw some pretty expensive-looking
"churches" built to help the "religious right" of the good ol' USA
praise the Lord, and deposit their hard-earned money. Just as many
religious fanatics in the USA , buddy boy.

Go Canada


~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
"No one is knocking your athiestic views, so... why
are you knocking any ones faith?"

ummm...lets see...one reason would be religous folks
have vowed to destroy our country and kill all "non
believers".......





wrote:
No one is knocking your athiestic views, so... why are you knocking any
ones faith?


~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
"Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?"

i can question anything i want....esp. if religious kooks
are at war w/our country ........ do they talk about
that in the little black book...??






JimH wrote:
"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
oups.com...
is that what your little black book tells ya?



"Test of faith, man. Test of faith.."



Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?



JimH August 18th 06 12:41 AM

18 months lost at sea?
 

"WangoZtango" wrote in message
ups.com...
That's a broad brush stroke that you paint for those you claim to be
'religious who are destroying your country'.....I took a trip to the
Carolinas not too long ago and I saw some pretty expensive-looking
"churches" built to help the "religious right" of the good ol' USA
praise the Lord, and deposit their hard-earned money. Just as many
religious fanatics in the USA , buddy boy.

Go Canada



Agreed. But having a Christian faith does not now relate to being a fanatic
as the extremist Muslims are.

Heck, the Catholic Church has had millions extorted from it by it's staff
and has paid millions to settle child abuse lawsuits stemming from
inappropriate sexual behavior by their priests.

A turn off and black eye for the Catholic religion? Without a doubt.

Do those actions then make their members 'religious fanatics'? Hardly.
;-)

I do not personally believe in the riches of the Catholic Church including
the Vatican fine arts collection or the building of high dollar churches.
But that has nothing to do with my belief in the Catholic religion nor does
that make my belief in the religion 'fanatical'.

I do accept the fact that the Christian Crusades of the 1100's and 1200's
were carried on by extremists and fanatics. But that was close to 1,000
years ago.

Muslim extremists acting on false religious pretences and killing innocent
people who do not believe in *their* religion are certainly our modern day
religious fanatics. You certainly cannot deny that. And to relate any
person of religious belief as being equally fanatic is absurd. ;-)



WangoZtango August 18th 06 02:51 AM

18 months lost at sea?
 
I see your point, but I think we have 2 different definitions of
'fanatics'. IMO, someone who would mindlessly give most of their
income (tithing) to a church (Catholics included) in order to buy their
way into heaven, or those who would be convinced that their religion is
'right' and someone else's is 'wrong', or actually believes they are
God's 'chosen one' based on their religion is a fanatic. They have an
unrational enthusiasm that clouds normal thinking and judgement. The
kiddy-diddling priests are not fanatics, they are simply criminal,
perverted *******s.
JimH wrote:
"WangoZtango" wrote in message
ups.com...
That's a broad brush stroke that you paint for those you claim to be
'religious who are destroying your country'.....I took a trip to the
Carolinas not too long ago and I saw some pretty expensive-looking
"churches" built to help the "religious right" of the good ol' USA
praise the Lord, and deposit their hard-earned money. Just as many
religious fanatics in the USA , buddy boy.

Go Canada



Agreed. But having a Christian faith does not now relate to being a fanatic
as the extremist Muslims are.

Heck, the Catholic Church has had millions extorted from it by it's staff
and has paid millions to settle child abuse lawsuits stemming from
inappropriate sexual behavior by their priests.

A turn off and black eye for the Catholic religion? Without a doubt.

Do those actions then make their members 'religious fanatics'? Hardly.
;-)

I do not personally believe in the riches of the Catholic Church including
the Vatican fine arts collection or the building of high dollar churches.
But that has nothing to do with my belief in the Catholic religion nor does
that make my belief in the religion 'fanatical'.

I do accept the fact that the Christian Crusades of the 1100's and 1200's
were carried on by extremists and fanatics. But that was close to 1,000
years ago.

Muslim extremists acting on false religious pretences and killing innocent
people who do not believe in *their* religion are certainly our modern day
religious fanatics. You certainly cannot deny that. And to relate any
person of religious belief as being equally fanatic is absurd. ;-)



~^ beancounter ~^ August 18th 06 03:29 AM

18 months lost at sea?
 
religion is nothing more than a "mind game" to control folks
who otherwise would need it...due to lack of self control...i guess...

i think it is funny folks need to "look it up" in their little black
book
to fig out what to do in certain situations.....its pretty funny, i
think...



WangoZtango wrote:
I see your point, but I think we have 2 different definitions of
'fanatics'. IMO, someone who would mindlessly give most of their
income (tithing) to a church (Catholics included) in order to buy their
way into heaven, or those who would be convinced that their religion is
'right' and someone else's is 'wrong', or actually believes they are
God's 'chosen one' based on their religion is a fanatic. They have an
unrational enthusiasm that clouds normal thinking and judgement. The
kiddy-diddling priests are not fanatics, they are simply criminal,
perverted *******s.
JimH wrote:
"WangoZtango" wrote in message
ups.com...
That's a broad brush stroke that you paint for those you claim to be
'religious who are destroying your country'.....I took a trip to the
Carolinas not too long ago and I saw some pretty expensive-looking
"churches" built to help the "religious right" of the good ol' USA
praise the Lord, and deposit their hard-earned money. Just as many
religious fanatics in the USA , buddy boy.

Go Canada



Agreed. But having a Christian faith does not now relate to being a fanatic
as the extremist Muslims are.

Heck, the Catholic Church has had millions extorted from it by it's staff
and has paid millions to settle child abuse lawsuits stemming from
inappropriate sexual behavior by their priests.

A turn off and black eye for the Catholic religion? Without a doubt.

Do those actions then make their members 'religious fanatics'? Hardly.
;-)

I do not personally believe in the riches of the Catholic Church including
the Vatican fine arts collection or the building of high dollar churches.
But that has nothing to do with my belief in the Catholic religion nor does
that make my belief in the religion 'fanatical'.

I do accept the fact that the Christian Crusades of the 1100's and 1200's
were carried on by extremists and fanatics. But that was close to 1,000
years ago.

Muslim extremists acting on false religious pretences and killing innocent
people who do not believe in *their* religion are certainly our modern day
religious fanatics. You certainly cannot deny that. And to relate any
person of religious belief as being equally fanatic is absurd. ;-)



Don White August 18th 06 04:26 AM

18 months lost at sea?
 
WangoZtango wrote:
I see your point, but I think we have 2 different definitions of
'fanatics'. IMO, someone who would mindlessly give most of their
income (tithing) to a church (Catholics included) in order to buy their
way into heaven, or those who would be convinced that their religion is
'right' and someone else's is 'wrong', or actually believes they are
God's 'chosen one' based on their religion is a fanatic. They have an
unrational enthusiasm that clouds normal thinking and judgement. The
kiddy-diddling priests are not fanatics, they are simply criminal,
perverted *******s.



Duh!
Tithing means giving 10% to a church...not "mindlessly give most of
their income "

[email protected] August 18th 06 01:08 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 17 Aug 2006 19:29:40 -0700, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

religion is nothing more than a "mind game" to control folks
who otherwise would need it...due to lack of self control...i guess...


Wow - how original...

You should write a book.



Somebody already did that states pretty well the same thing. It's
called "The Communist Manifesto" By Karl Marx..


~^ beancounter ~^ August 18th 06 04:03 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 
"Wow - how original...
You should write a book."

gee....ya think? would you buy it?







Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 17 Aug 2006 19:29:40 -0700, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

religion is nothing more than a "mind game" to control folks
who otherwise would need it...due to lack of self control...i guess...


Wow - how original...

You should write a book.



~^ beancounter ~^ August 19th 06 02:21 AM

18 months lost at sea?
 
"I love fiction."

good...you would love the little black book called the bible...
its a cross between fiction and entertainment...go to church
if you enjoy the theater...its sorta fun to watch...omho
of course...





Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 18 Aug 2006 08:03:23 -0700, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

"Wow - how original...
You should write a book."

gee....ya think? would you buy it?


Of course I would.

I love fiction.



[email protected] August 19th 06 02:28 AM

18 months lost at sea?
 
I seriously doubt if you've ever read it.


~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
"I love fiction."

good...you would love the little black book called the bible...
its a cross between fiction and entertainment...go to church
if you enjoy the theater...its sorta fun to watch...omho
of course...





Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 18 Aug 2006 08:03:23 -0700, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

"Wow - how original...
You should write a book."

gee....ya think? would you buy it?


Of course I would.

I love fiction.



~^ beancounter ~^ August 19th 06 02:38 AM

18 months lost at sea?
 
i have read parts of it...i never sat down and read it
as a book though.....i looked at the pictures....


wrote:
I seriously doubt if you've ever read it.


~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
"I love fiction."

good...you would love the little black book called the bible...
its a cross between fiction and entertainment...go to church
if you enjoy the theater...its sorta fun to watch...omho
of course...





Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 18 Aug 2006 08:03:23 -0700, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

"Wow - how original...
You should write a book."

gee....ya think? would you buy it?

Of course I would.

I love fiction.



[email protected] August 19th 06 06:47 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:29:53 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @
pffftt.com wrote:


Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?


The right to hold and expouse any crazy belief is not in question. The
beliefs themselves are open to discussion.

~^ beancounter ~^ August 19th 06 07:31 PM

18 months lost at sea?
 
that's true, as long as you don't want to blow up or
kill "non belivers".....its your right baby....just as its
anyones right to critize and/or make fun of any religion..

......that's one of the many things that makes america great....



wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:29:53 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @
pffftt.com wrote:


Who are you to question anyone's religious belief?


The right to hold and expouse any crazy belief is not in question. The
beliefs themselves are open to discussion.




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