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jamesgangnc wrote:
I wonder if we have any posters that have actually seen them load cars
on those ships? Seems to me that you would have to have some sort of
tie downs. Wouldn't it be unrealistic to expect 5,000 cars to stay put
in a trans-pacific trip? I mean an ordinary storm could cause them to
slide? Unless they are on tracks or something.


I've not seem how they load them, but most imports have a hook under the
front and rear bumpers for exactly that.... Unless those hooks have
been eliminated as a "cost savings"...

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Damn...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8J312E81.html

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Damn...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8J312E81.html

They can't possibly tie down 5,000 cars, I'm betting. So, if they get
the thing uprighted, I'll bet there's still a big, big loss

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"basskisser" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Damn...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8J312E81.html

They can't possibly tie down 5,000 cars, I'm betting. So, if they get
the thing uprighted, I'll bet there's still a big, big loss


I wonder if the REASON was that the cars were not secured properly. Some
insurance underwriter must be having the world's biggest headache at the
moment.

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I wonder if we have any posters that have actually seen them load cars
on those ships? Seems to me that you would have to have some sort of
tie downs. Wouldn't it be unrealistic to expect 5,000 cars to stay put
in a trans-pacific trip? I mean an ordinary storm could cause them to
slide? Unless they are on tracks or something.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Damn...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8J312E81.html

They can't possibly tie down 5,000 cars, I'm betting. So, if they get
the thing uprighted, I'll bet there's still a big, big loss


I wonder if the REASON was that the cars were not secured properly. Some
insurance underwriter must be having the world's biggest headache at the
moment.

Nasty boat situation
 

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:06:17 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Damn...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8J312E81.html

Hmm, I wonder what kind of bottom paint they are using. Looks pretty damn
clean.

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jamesgangnc wrote:
I wonder if we have any posters that have actually seen them load cars
on those ships? Seems to me that you would have to have some sort of
tie downs. Wouldn't it be unrealistic to expect 5,000 cars to stay put
in a trans-pacific trip? I mean an ordinary storm could cause them to
slide? Unless they are on tracks or something.

Yeah, I wonder. I watched them unload cars in Benecia, CA, but only
from the outside. They drove them out so fast that I don't see how in
hell they could tie them down! I don't even know how in hell they
didn't wreck alot!

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I'm not sure that speed of unloading tells us anything. If they have
some sort of quick tension release and a dozen guys just releasing then
they could go pretty fast.

basskisser wrote:
jamesgangnc wrote:
I wonder if we have any posters that have actually seen them load cars
on those ships? Seems to me that you would have to have some sort of
tie downs. Wouldn't it be unrealistic to expect 5,000 cars to stay put
in a trans-pacific trip? I mean an ordinary storm could cause them to
slide? Unless they are on tracks or something.

Yeah, I wonder. I watched them unload cars in Benecia, CA, but only
from the outside. They drove them out so fast that I don't see how in
hell they could tie them down! I don't even know how in hell they
didn't wreck alot!

Nasty boat situation
 

jamesgangnc wrote:
I wonder if we have any posters that have actually seen them load cars
on those ships? Seems to me that you would have to have some sort of
tie downs. Wouldn't it be unrealistic to expect 5,000 cars to stay put
in a trans-pacific trip? I mean an ordinary storm could cause them to
slide? Unless they are on tracks or something.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Damn...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8J312E81.html

They can't possibly tie down 5,000 cars, I'm betting. So, if they get
the thing uprighted, I'll bet there's still a big, big loss


I wonder if the REASON was that the cars were not secured properly. Some
insurance underwriter must be having the world's biggest headache at the
moment.


I've never loaded those big car carriers...but did help unload one 35 or
so years ago when picking up a few hours here & there as a longshoreman
(stevedore).
The cars were Volvos from Sweden and they were 'lashed down' to fittings
on the ships deck.
http://www.portofhalifax.ca/AbsPage....iteid=1&lang=1

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basskisser wrote:
jamesgangnc wrote:

I wonder if we have any posters that have actually seen them load cars
on those ships? Seems to me that you would have to have some sort of
tie downs. Wouldn't it be unrealistic to expect 5,000 cars to stay put
in a trans-pacific trip? I mean an ordinary storm could cause them to
slide? Unless they are on tracks or something.


Yeah, I wonder. I watched them unload cars in Benecia, CA, but only
from the outside. They drove them out so fast that I don't see how in
hell they could tie them down! I don't even know how in hell they
didn't wreck alot!


Hee hee! Here certain stevedores were given the task of un-lashing the
cars. Others had the fun of driving them off the boat and to a parking
area. I remember a Volvo sportscar that resembled the one used by Roger
Moore in 'The Saint'. Must admit I came flying up the ramp with that one.

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:06:17 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Damn...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8J312E81.html

Hmm, I wonder what kind of bottom paint they are using. Looks pretty damn
clean.


Heh. I like your style. Always looking for the silver lining.

Eisboch

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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:15:31 -0000, jamesgangnc
wrote:

I wonder if we have any posters that have actually seen them load cars
on those ships? Seems to me that you would have to have some sort of
tie downs. Wouldn't it be unrealistic to expect 5,000 cars to stay put
in a trans-pacific trip?

I have talked with a person who meets car carriers coming into the Port of
Wilmington, Delaware. He was telling me that all the cars were strapped
down (and, if there was a labor dispute, the employees would cut the strap
on the hood, rather than at some spot where it actually cleared the car,
thereby scarring the hood).

That conversation was several years ago, for what it's worth.

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All the cars are securely lashed at multiple points.
This incident has a number of possible scenarios, but I'm guessing human
error due to heeling tanks or ballast "exchange".

otn

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Damn...
http://apnews.excite.com/article/200...D8J312E81.html

They can't possibly tie down 5,000 cars, I'm betting. So, if they get
the thing uprighted, I'll bet there's still a big, big loss