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Help me buy paddling clothes?
Since I live right on banks of Mississippi River I want
to take up paddling My first purchases will be clothing since I can also use the clothing off river Need advice on the flowing: 1. hat for sun and rain 2. Rain cape? 3. Shorts and pants. Maybe zip off convertible pants that can be made into shorts as needed 4. Proper sandals and shoes for muddy, wet, conditions. They don't call it the big muddy for nothing 5. Floatation vest? So..any advice what specific brand/models of clothing to get? |
Help me buy paddling clothes?
Assuming you are thinking ONLY of warm weather summer paddling in a
recreational boat, touring yak, or canoe: buy a good PFD (life jacket) first, and KEEP IT ON! Even when you shower, eat , and go to bed lol..ok just kidding, but wear that thing when you paddle. Most any type of clothing will work for summer, river shorts, bathing suits...IF it's cold weather....NO COTTON.....cotton kills, it is a no no where possible hypothermia is concerned. Those shorts\pants zippered combo thingies are a good choice. Foot wear, in a kayak with a foam center support....no sandals, they can get snagged on the heel if you need to wet exit quickly, basic watershoes from Walmart are fine....lots of other choices from a catalog such as NRS http://www.nrsweb.com/. Stay tunes for alot more advice........RBP GUYS & GALS? wrote in message ... Since I live right on banks of Mississippi River I want to take up paddling My first purchases will be clothing since I can also use the clothing off river Need advice on the flowing: 1. hat for sun and rain 2. Rain cape? 3. Shorts and pants. Maybe zip off convertible pants that can be made into shorts as needed 4. Proper sandals and shoes for muddy, wet, conditions. They don't call it the big muddy for nothing 5. Floatation vest? So..any advice what specific brand/models of clothing to get? |
Help me buy paddling clothes?
Convertible pants are good, as are the convertible shirts (roll-up long
sleeves) that you can buy in the same kind of store that sells the pants -- purveyors of camping and trekking gear, typically. Be sure they are of synthetic material. I like shorts and short-sleeve button-front shirts from Columbia Sportswear and Ex Officio, usually available in the same stores or in stores that cater to fly-fishermen. These are of quick-drying synthetic material and I wear 'em with socks and underwear of a similar material. I wear Converse Chuck Taylor's All Stars in my whitewater canoe, but I'm a decided minority on the river in that respect. I always carry a paddling jacket in case of rain or other unexpected chill, and if I'm paddling some stream so tame that I won't be wearing a helmet, I wear a long-billed fly-fisherman's baseball-style cap -- also of a synthetic material, and with a bill stiffened by something other than cardboard, so I can dip a capfull of river water to cool my head, without ruining the cap. I also always carry a drybag that contains a pair of polypro-like longjohns, a fleece sweater, and a pair of rain pants. Pull all that on over my shorts, along with the paddling jacket, and I can stand a drop from 80 to 50 degrees in air temperature, or warm myself after capsizing from 65 degree air into 50 degree water. -Richard, His Kanubic Travesty -- ================================================== ==================== Richard Hopley Winston-Salem, NC, USA Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net OK, OK; computer programming for scientific research also matters rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu ================================================== ==================== wrote: Since I live right on banks of Mississippi River I want to take up paddling My first purchases will be clothing since I can also use the clothing off river Need advice on the flowing: 1. hat for sun and rain 2. Rain cape? 3. Shorts and pants. Maybe zip off convertible pants that can be made into shorts as needed 4. Proper sandals and shoes for muddy, wet, conditions. They don't call it the big muddy for nothing 5. Floatation vest? So..any advice what specific brand/models of clothing to get? |
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"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in
ups.com: Convertible pants are good, as are the convertible shirts (roll-up long sleeves) that you can buy in the same kind of store that sells the pants -- purveyors of camping and trekking gear, typically. Be sure they are of synthetic material. I like shorts and short-sleeve button-front shirts from Columbia Sportswear and Ex Officio, usually available in the same stores or in stores that cater to fly-fishermen. These are of quick-drying synthetic material and I wear 'em with socks and underwear of a similar material. Several mail order places carry synthetic shirts like this. I actually prefer the long sleeves for UV protection. They're often labeled as "trekking shirts". Sierra Trading Post is a good source for these. LL Bean, NRS, Cabelas, or one of many other outdoor gear mailing order internet sites have them as well. I wear Converse Chuck Taylor's All Stars in my whitewater canoe, but I'm a decided minority on the river in that respect. I always carry a paddling jacket in case of rain or other unexpected chill, and if I'm paddling some stream so tame that I won't be wearing a helmet, I wear a long-billed fly-fisherman's baseball-style cap -- also of a synthetic material, and with a bill stiffened by something other than cardboard, so I can dip a capfull of river water to cool my head, without ruining the cap. A few years ago I picked up a baseball style cap at Florida Bay Outfitters that was made of a synthetic material and had a neoprene bill. It's nice having a cap that'll float if you want to cool off by doing a couple of rolls. |
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"Grip" wrote:
Assuming you are thinking ONLY of warm weather summer paddling in a recreational boat, touring yak, or canoe: buy a good PFD (life jacket) first, and KEEP IT ON! Oh yeah...will do on the PFD!! So you do NOT advocate sandals such as Chacos? |
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"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote:
I like shorts and short-sleeve button-front shirts from Columbia You don't like full brim hats? Instead you like ball style? I guess what I need is very specific advise on what shorts and hat to buy |
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"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote:
I also always carry a drybag that contains a pair of polypro-like longjohns, a fleece sweater, and a pair of rain pants. Pull all that on over my shorts, along with the paddling jacket, and I can stand a drop from 80 to 50 degrees in air temperature, or warm myself after capsizing from 65 degree air into 50 degree water. Good idea! advice on what brand dry bag and what size to buy as a first one? |
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John Fereira wrote:
Several mail order places carry synthetic shirts like this. I actually prefer the long sleeves for UV protection. yeah I want long sleeve as I'm fair complected Or convertible sleeve where you can zip or roll sleeves up |
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I do not advocate sandals in boats that incorporate a center
support.....this would run the length of the front cockpit to the tip, where the paddler has one leg on each side of the support. These often have a cutout where your hells could actually touch to facilitate more foot room. A sandal's heel can become snagged in the cutout and prevent a needed exit. Mostly in WW boats, but I'm sure other craft have this feature as well. IF the boat has a totally open cockpit, no problem, sandals are fine. wrote in message ... "Grip" wrote: Assuming you are thinking ONLY of warm weather summer paddling in a recreational boat, touring yak, or canoe: buy a good PFD (life jacket) first, and KEEP IT ON! Oh yeah...will do on the PFD!! So you do NOT advocate sandals such as Chacos? |
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Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
Also I'd recommend a set of neoprene boots... I can't imagine the Mississippi being all that clean... (probably cleaner than the Chicago though). No...it's probably NOT very clean Plus muddy as hell So you think neoprene boots better than open toe sandals like Chaco or Teva for such muddy conditions? |
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: Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote: :Also I'd recommend a set of neoprene boots... I can't imagine the Mississippi :being all that clean... (probably cleaner than the Chicago though). : No...it's probably NOT very clean : Plus muddy as hell : So you think neoprene boots better than open toe : sandals like Chaco or Teva for such muddy conditions? I don't go in rivers around here without them... neoprene boots and gloves (gloves vary on how truely messy it is and if you think your going to be poking around)... the last thing you want to do is scrape a hand or toe on something, cut it and let that water in... -- John Nelson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) |
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Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
I don't go in rivers around here without them... neoprene boots and gloves (gloves vary on how truely messy it is and if you think your going to be poking around)... the last thing you want to do is scrape a hand or toe on something, cut it and let that water in... Ooooo... yes you are right Didn't think abt dirty river water getting into cuts on foot..... i.e. using open sandals that is |
Help me buy paddling clothes?
"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in message ups.com... snip... I wear Converse Chuck Taylor's All Stars in my whitewater canoe, but I'm a decided minority on the river in that respect. Richard, I always wore converse all-stars in the 70s. They really gripped wet rocks and were still good for portages. When the last pair finally wore out and it was time to replace them, the soles were not the same material, it was much harder, and were decidedly slippier on wet rocks. I haven't looked for them since the early 80s, so are the soles somewhat 'softer' again? snip... |
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Rick wrote:
"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in message ups.com... snip... I wear Converse Chuck Taylor's All Stars in my whitewater canoe, but I'm a decided minority on the river in that respect. Richard, I always wore converse all-stars in the 70s. They really gripped wet rocks and were still good for portages. When the last pair finally wore out and it was time to replace them, the soles were not the same material, it was much harder, and were decidedly slippier on wet rocks. I haven't looked for them since the early 80s, so are the soles somewhat 'softer' again? I cannot really compare. But the current soles are a little more slippery than I would like. I wear them for the firm sole, since I paddle kneeling with my toes pointed straight down: the sole (attached to the high tops lashed around the ankle) supports the weight of the foot and lower leg, rather than the toes. I always have two pairs on hand; a pair that fits, and an outsized pair that fits over wool socks and the built-in latex foots of my drysuit. When I was paddling 100 days/year I had to replace both pairs annually, because of the unfortunate tendency of wet canvas to rot! These days I am boating only 50 or 60 days per year, and so they last a liddle longer. -Richard, His Kanubic Travesty -- ================================================== ==================== Richard Hopley Winston-Salem, NC, USA rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu OK, OK; computer programming for scientific research also matters ================================================== ==================== |
Help me buy paddling clothes?
Ok..let me pose this question to the group
I don't have a knife...any kind of knife What exact brand/model of knife should I buy for general use in kayak on river? To cut myself lose in a tangle (emergency)..... to cut food...etc |
Help me buy paddling clothes?
Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
I cannot really compare. But the current soles are a little more slippery than I would like. I wear them for the firm sole, since I paddle kneeling with my toes pointed straight down: the sole (attached to the high tops lashed around the ankle) supports the weight of the foot and lower leg, rather than the toes. The 5.10 stealth rubber soles are better than old Converse soles for traction on a wide variety of surfaces. Felt is better on algae-covered rock, vibram is better on dry rock, but I don't think anything beats stealth rubber for sand-covered surfaces, both wet and dry. Avoid wearing them at home, because they scuff floors with black skidmarks. They also wear out fast on pavement. I'm not a gearhead, but I believe stealth rubber soles are available on many products. I wear Chaco sandals with 5.10 (dot pattern) soles. |
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Any kind of cheap stainless folder with a built on clip will suffice, unless
you want to attach it your PFD, then look at Gerber, there are others...google river knife...I'm too lazy wrote in message ... Ok..let me pose this question to the group I don't have a knife...any kind of knife What exact brand/model of knife should I buy for general use in kayak on river? To cut myself lose in a tangle (emergency)..... to cut food...etc |
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Ok..let me pose this question to the group I don't have a knife...any kind of knife What exact brand/model of knife should I buy for general use in kayak on river? To cut myself lose in a tangle (emergency)..... to cut food...etc This tip Oci-One Kanubi taught me: Whenever you use throwlines, make sure to carry paramedic's shears or a sharp knife as well! The advantage of using paramedic's shears: They are a lot cheaper than "normal" rescue knives. They have small serrated "blades" which will go through throwrope very easily, but which can also be used very close to a victim's body without injuring them. Unlike folding knives, they are easy to operate with one hand. In area's where normal knives are illegal (that's the case around here), they offer a nice non-threathening and legal option. I do have a folding knife as a backup, but it's only been used in anger to slit the throat of a baquette (French stick bread) or skin an orange. -- Wilko van den Bergh wilkoa t)dse(d o tnl Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe ---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.--- http://kayaker.nl/ |
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Wilko wrote:
Whenever you use throwlines, make sure to carry paramedic's shears or a sharp knife as well! Ok but where to buy such a thing? I'm going to REI this weekend so will get the Gerber shortly river knife as well |
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Wilko wrote: Whenever you use throwlines, make sure to carry paramedic's shears or a sharp knife as well! Ok but where to buy such a thing? Go to the website that sells police and emergency responders' equipment: www.galls.com. They are called "bandage shears" and will be in the section with equipment for EMTs (Emergency Medical Technicians). Get several pairs; they're only about $5.00 each. In addition to the advantages Wilko cited, is this: when you are bouncing around in turbulent water, having just saved yer buddy's life by cutting him free of an entanglement, you don't have to give a lot of thought (or take any chances working further with a sharp tool) to how you are going to stow this thing away. Just drop the &%$%^$ in the river. You've got a $5.00 replacement in yer boat and another one in yer car. -Richard, His Kanubic Travesty -- ================================================== ==================== Richard Hopley Winston-Salem, NC, USA .. rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net .. Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll .. rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu .. OK, OK; computer programming for scientific research also matters ================================================== ==================== |
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Bill Tuthill wrote:
Oci-One Kanubi wrote: I cannot really compare. But the current soles are a little more slippery than I would like. I wear them for the firm sole, since I paddle kneeling with my toes pointed straight down: the sole (attached to the high tops lashed around the ankle) supports the weight of the foot and lower leg, rather than the toes. The 5.10 stealth rubber soles are better than old Converse soles for traction on a wide variety of surfaces. Felt is better on algae-covered rock, vibram is better on dry rock, but I don't think anything beats stealth rubber for sand-covered surfaces, both wet and dry. Avoid wearing them at home, because they scuff floors with black skidmarks. They also wear out fast on pavement. I'm not a gearhead, but I believe stealth rubber soles are available on many products. I wear Chaco sandals with 5.10 (dot pattern) soles. Thanks, Bill. I'll keep an eye out. I'm heading yer direction next month, but won't get as far west as you are. We'll be mostly in Northern CO, western WY, and southwestern MT. Maybe a bit of ID near Yellowstone. -Richard, His Kanubic Travesty -- ================================================== ==================== Richard Hopley Winston-Salem, NC, USA .. rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net .. Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll .. rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu .. OK, OK; computer programming for scientific research also matters ================================================== ==================== |
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"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote:
Get several pairs; they're only about $5.00 each. In addition to the advantages Wilko cited, is this: when you are bouncing around in turbulent water, having just saved yer buddy's life by cutting him free of an entanglement, you don't have to give a lot of thought (or take any chances working further with a sharp tool) to how you are going to stow this thing away. Just drop the &%$%^$ in the river. You've got a $5.00 replacement in yer boat and another one in yer car. Thanks Good idea! |
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Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
Get several pairs; they're only about $5.00 each. In addition to the advantages Wilko cited, is this: when you are bouncing around in turbulent water, having just saved yer buddy's life by cutting him free of an entanglement, you don't have to give a lot of thought (or take any chances working further with a sharp tool) to how you are going to stow this thing away. Just drop the &%$%^$ in the river. You've got a $5.00 replacement in yer boat and another one in yer car. LOL!!! There are a lot of things you can say about Richard, but not that he's not very pragmatic! :-) -- Wilko van den Bergh wilkoa t)dse(d o tnl Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe ---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.--- http://kayaker.nl/ |
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By the way.... thanks guys!
You've been a big help! heading to REI to pick up a few things I know its not advisable to spend a ton of money on gear.... but there are a few things I wanted to get such as clothes and knife and PFD that were decent quality |
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"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in
ups.com: Bill Tuthill wrote: Oci-One Kanubi wrote: I cannot really compare. But the current soles are a little more slippery than I would like. I wear them for the firm sole, since I paddle kneeling with my toes pointed straight down: the sole (attached to the high tops lashed around the ankle) supports the weight of the foot and lower leg, rather than the toes. The 5.10 stealth rubber soles are better than old Converse soles for traction on a wide variety of surfaces. Felt is better on algae-covered rock, vibram is better on dry rock, but I don't think anything beats stealth rubber for sand-covered surfaces, both wet and dry. Avoid wearing them at home, because they scuff floors with black skidmarks. They also wear out fast on pavement. My favorite water shoes are NRS felt soled kickers. I've had them for 6-7 years, have tried other options but like these the best. Since I'm also a flyfisherman I use them while wading the local streams as well. Go to the NRS web site (www.nrsweb.com) and enter "felt sole" in the search box. |
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Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
I'm heading yer direction next month, but won't get as far west as you are. We'll be mostly in Northern CO, western WY, and southwestern MT. Maybe a bit of ID near Yellowstone. Some of my friends are running the Something Fork of the Flathead in MT, over July 4th, so perhaps you'll see them! I don't usually say much about gear, but these 5.10 dot-pattern soles are pretty amazing for river use. When I wear my regular shoes, it feels like I'm ready to slip at any time. The only piece of gear that has impressed me so much is the Thermarest, and that was 25 years ago. |
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: "Oci-One Kanubi" wrote: :Get several pairs; they're only about $5.00 each. In addition to the :advantages Wilko cited, is this: when you are bouncing around in :turbulent water, having just saved yer buddy's life by cutting him free :of an entanglement, you don't have to give a lot of thought (or take :any chances working further with a sharp tool) to how you are going to :stow this thing away. Just drop the &%$%^$ in the river. You've got a :$5.00 replacement in yer boat and another one in yer car. : Thanks : Good idea! No... bad idea for the next adult or child who steps on the open, sharp pair of sheers that you just dropped in the river... If you can't store it properly than you have no business bringing it. Don't plan on leaving anything behind... if you lose it you lose it, but never anticipate something as disposable... If the trip is too much for you, don't make the trip... -- John Nelson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) |
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Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
: Thanks : Good idea! No... bad idea for the next adult or child who steps on the open, sharp Point taken Thank you |
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On 22-Jun-2006, " wrote: So, high carbon knives are easy to make sharp, but rust. High chromium knives are a pain to sharpen, but don't rust as fast. YMMV Titanium blades are tough to sharpen but retain (I'm told) a wicked edge when you finish. Titanium isn't a really strong metal on its own, but, like aluminum, almost all useful alloys are much stronger/harder/tougher than the native metal. Wenoka makes a titanium knife that is not too expensive and has lots of "cool factor" to it (yer basic Blackie Collins blade). Plus a polycarbonate handle/sheath. Tanto tip. Fishing line hook. I know nothing at all about ceramic (e.g., Boker) knives. Ceramic knives are too brittle to trust in a rescue situation. Great in a kitchen, though. Still prospecting for the unobtanium mine. Mike |
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"Michael Daly" wrote:
Wenoka makes a titanium knife For kayaking? |
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"Michael Daly" wrote:
For any paddling. However, in trying to find a useful link for you, I found a couple of sites that specifically point out a couple of problems with this knife - the blade is quite thin and is not suitable for prying. That could be an issue with some rescue uses. Plus the tanto tip is not as safe as a straight-across blunt tip. Well then it sounds like I better stick with the Gerber river knife made of steel then huh? |
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Al D wrote:
I avoid using rain capes (ponchos) while canoeing. Good idea |
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"Michael Daly" wrote:
That's what I've been using for a decade now. Just rinse it off after it's been in sal****er. The only problem with that knife is the sheath looses grip on the knife after a while if you keep removing and replacing the knife. I don't use the knife for anything, since I want it sharp and mostly paddle in fresh water, so it holds the knife in the sheath just fine. OK thanks Sounds like Gerber model is good enough Got to make it to REI this weekend |
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