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JimH June 19th 06 02:11 AM

Boating and laptops and WIFI
 
How far off shore can you normally receive a WIFI connection on your laptop?

Is there a link that will show me ranges of coverage for various cities?



Wayne.B June 19th 06 04:03 AM

Boating and laptops and WIFI
 
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:07:02 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JimH wrote:
How far off shore can you normally receive a WIFI connection on your laptop?

Is there a link that will show me ranges of coverage for various cities?


You will typically lose even a good WiFi signal beyond 1/4 mile or so
but there are a few exceptions. Most are good for only 100 yards or
less from the access point. It depends a great deal on what kind of
equipment and antenna is being used, both at the AP, and also on your
boat. My best success on the boat has been with a Netgear Rangemax
USB adapter (WPN111) mounted about 20 feet in the air and relayed into
the cabin via USB extension cables and a USB hub.


thunder June 19th 06 04:38 AM

Boating and laptops and WIFI
 
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:03:56 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


You will typically lose even a good WiFi signal beyond 1/4 mile or so but
there are a few exceptions. Most are good for only 100 yards or less from
the access point. It depends a great deal on what kind of equipment and
antenna is being used, both at the AP, and also on your boat. My best
success on the boat has been with a Netgear Rangemax USB adapter (WPN111)
mounted about 20 feet in the air and relayed into the cabin via USB
extension cables and a USB hub.


Haven't tried a Pringles Cantenna, have you? ;-)

http://www.binarywolf.com/249/pringles_cantenna.htm

http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html



[email protected] June 19th 06 08:09 AM

Boating and laptops and WIFI
 

JimH wrote:
How far off shore can you normally receive a WIFI connection on your laptop?

Is there a link that will show me ranges of coverage for various cities?



Here you go........

http://www.outfittersatellite.com/ttcm.htm

Only $280.

(A week) :-)


Or, you can just spend a day unplugged when out on the boat.


Wayne.B June 19th 06 11:32 AM

Boating and laptops and WIFI
 
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:38:26 -0400, thunder
wrote:

Haven't tried a Pringles Cantenna, have you? ;-)

http://www.binarywolf.com/249/pringles_cantenna.htm

http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html


=========

Haven't spent much time swinging at anchor have you? ;-)


Dene June 19th 06 09:50 PM

Boating and laptops and WIFI
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On 19 Jun 2006 00:09:01 -0700, "
wrote:

Here you go........

http://www.outfittersatellite.com/ttcm.htm

Only $280.

(A week) :-)


Or, you can just spend a day unplugged when out on the boat.


======================

OK for a day maybe, but not for a week or a month. Some of us
*really* do need to stay connected.


I'm in the same boat your are, Wayne (pun intended). If I go a couple of
days unconnected, I pay a price when I return to the office.

Sprint offers broadband service, useful anywhere within their cell phone
service range, for $79.99. $59.99/mo. if you already are a customer. I
intend to subscribe when we move, using it for home, business, and marine
applications.

-Greg



Wayne.B June 20th 06 12:05 AM

Boating and laptops and WIFI
 
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:50:12 -0700, "Dene" wrote:

Sprint offers broadband service, useful anywhere within their cell phone
service range, for $79.99. $59.99/mo. if you already are a customer. I
intend to subscribe when we move, using it for home, business, and marine
applications.


Yes, I have internet access through my Sprint phone but it is too slow
(400 msec ping latency) to support a virtual desk top environment.

It is fine for casual web browsing and EMAIL however.

How is your ping time to something like google.com ?


RG June 20th 06 12:46 AM

Boating and laptops and WIFI
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:50:12 -0700, "Dene" wrote:

Sprint offers broadband service, useful anywhere within their cell phone
service range, for $79.99. $59.99/mo. if you already are a customer. I
intend to subscribe when we move, using it for home, business, and marine
applications.


Yes, I have internet access through my Sprint phone but it is too slow
(400 msec ping latency) to support a virtual desk top environment.

It is fine for casual web browsing and EMAIL however.

How is your ping time to something like google.com ?


Wayne:

I subscribe to Verizon's Broadband Access service, using an air card with my
notebook. I've run numerous speed tests with it. If I'm a metropolitan
area, I'll usually be in range of Verizon's EVDO signal, which delivers
download speeds in the range of 750-850 kilobits per second. Not exactly
the 2000-3000 kilobits per second that I get from my cable modem, but quite
usable when I'm out and about. While I'm out on the boat I only have a
1xRTT signal, which results in speeds of about 150-170 kilobits per second.
A bit tedious to be sure, but much better than the days of dial-up, which
was never available on the boat to begin with, and I'm damn glad to have it
while on the water. I just pinged google.com using the air card with an
EVDO signal, and the ping time averaged 207 ms (193, 216, 189, 230). My
cable modem averaged 80 ms.

The original post asked about wi-fi offshore, but that is simply a pipe
dream. Wi-fi would only be appropriate in a marina setting, assuming the
marina was set up for wi-fi. Anywhere else, including offshore, one of the
cellular broadband services is your best bet, short of a broadband satellite
service.



Dene June 20th 06 01:29 AM

Boating and laptops and WIFI
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:50:12 -0700, "Dene" wrote:

Sprint offers broadband service, useful anywhere within their cell phone
service range, for $79.99. $59.99/mo. if you already are a customer. I
intend to subscribe when we move, using it for home, business, and marine
applications.


Yes, I have internet access through my Sprint phone but it is too slow
(400 msec ping latency) to support a virtual desk top environment.

It is fine for casual web browsing and EMAIL however.

How is your ping time to something like google.com ?


I don't know but their website will tell you. I haven't subscribed yet.
Will do so in a month. This I do know...I watched a friend install one in
his laptop and it screamed. Just as fast, if not faster, than my cable
connection.

-Greg



Wayne.B June 20th 06 01:56 AM

Boating and laptops and WIFI
 
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:46:19 GMT, "RG" wrote:

I just pinged google.com using the air card with an
EVDO signal, and the ping time averaged 207 ms (193, 216, 189, 230). My
cable modem averaged 80 ms.


Those are fairly decent ping times compared to what I get with my
Sprint cell phone (typically 300 to 400 msecs).


The original post asked about wi-fi offshore, but that is simply a pipe
dream.


I agree.

Wi-fi would only be appropriate in a marina setting, assuming the
marina was set up for wi-fi.


With my external omni-directional antenna/adapter, I can frequently
reach a WiFi marina or cafe at 300 to 400 yards, sometimes as far as
half a mile if they have good AP hardware.



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