Harry Krause wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/9qs28

America is truely a strange and scarey place.

(sorry I peeked)

"Black Dog" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/9qs28

America is truely a strange and scarey place.


Sometimes. But, I have a friend who's married to a nice lady who absolutely
hates guns. He wanted to go to one of those full-auto events out in Nevada a
few years back. He bet his wife that she'd love it, and that if he was
wrong, he'd wash all the dishes for a year AND sell some of his guns, in
which she thought he had too much money tied up. (She was right). He won the
bet. She loved shooting stuff. She had to stop complaining FOREVER about
guns in general. And, he still sold some of his collector's pieces, about
$30 grand worth.

I don't see it as much different than demolishing old drywall with a sledge
hammer, which ends up being very relaxing.

"Black Dog" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/9qs28

America is truely a strange and scarey place.

(sorry I peeked)



Reminds me of the night I went after the squirrel that got into our house.

RCE

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"Black Dog" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/9qs28

America is truely a strange and scarey place.

(sorry I peeked)



Reminds me of the night I went after the squirrel that got into our house.

RCE


Did you end up with an unexpected skylight in the ceiling? :-)

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Black Dog" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/9qs28

America is truely a strange and scarey place.



Sometimes. But, I have a friend who's married to a nice lady who absolutely
hates guns. He wanted to go to one of those full-auto events out in Nevada a
few years back. He bet his wife that she'd love it, and that if he was
wrong, he'd wash all the dishes for a year AND sell some of his guns, in
which she thought he had too much money tied up. (She was right). He won the
bet. She loved shooting stuff. She had to stop complaining FOREVER about
guns in general. And, he still sold some of his collector's pieces, about
$30 grand worth.

I didn't say shooting stuff wasn't fun. I NEVER said shooting stuff
isn't fun. I own guns. Handguns, in fact. At the shooting range there
are man targets that I love. To take them down with the 22 requires a
good head-shot and I can do it 5 out of 5 times. The 9mm I can't hit
the broad side of a barn with.

BUT the sight of that sweet looking 6 year old girl goin' to town on the
machine gun - it's just bizarre. Video games are bad enough for
habituating children to senseless violence, let alone letting them play
with live ammo.



I don't see it as much different than demolishing old drywall with a sledge
hammer, which ends up being very relaxing.



It is VERY different, the fact that you don't see it proves my first
statement (ie, America is a strange and scarey place)

"Black Dog" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Black Dog" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/9qs28

America is truely a strange and scarey place.



Sometimes. But, I have a friend who's married to a nice lady who
absolutely hates guns. He wanted to go to one of those full-auto events
out in Nevada a few years back. He bet his wife that she'd love it, and
that if he was wrong, he'd wash all the dishes for a year AND sell some
of his guns, in which she thought he had too much money tied up. (She was
right). He won the bet. She loved shooting stuff. She had to stop
complaining FOREVER about guns in general. And, he still sold some of his
collector's pieces, about $30 grand worth.

I didn't say shooting stuff wasn't fun. I NEVER said shooting stuff isn't
fun. I own guns. Handguns, in fact. At the shooting range there are man
targets that I love. To take them down with the 22 requires a good
head-shot and I can do it 5 out of 5 times. The 9mm I can't hit the broad
side of a barn with.

BUT the sight of that sweet looking 6 year old girl goin' to town on the
machine gun - it's just bizarre. Video games are bad enough for
habituating children to senseless violence, let alone letting them play
with live ammo.



I don't see it as much different than demolishing old drywall with a
sledge hammer, which ends up being very relaxing.

It is VERY different, the fact that you don't see it proves my first
statement (ie, America is a strange and scarey place)

Well, here's another way of looking at it: Violence is part the the human
deal, and the energy involved in doing violent things is not TOTALLY
different than the energy or urges involved with other more peaceful
activities. The more evolved among us (even in Canada) learn to focus on
constructive things, which may involve playing loud music once a week,
sports (doing, not watching & drooling), doing insanely hard work in a
garden which has never had more than a 71% success rate, or blowing up old
cars at a friend's farm. Those who have NOT evolved in this way get involved
with crime, watching professional wrestling, and getting a sick sort of
thrill listening to other people talk about invading foreign countries.

Harry Krause wrote:


I didn't say shooting stuff wasn't fun. I NEVER said shooting stuff
isn't fun. I own guns. Handguns, in fact. At the shooting range
there are man targets that I love. To take them down with the 22
requires a good head-shot and I can do it 5 out of 5 times. The 9mm I
can't hit the broad side of a barn with.



Are you consistently missing with the 9 mm? Are your sights off? Is your
stance off? Are you not using a good two-handed grip?


Yeah, consistantly. Haven't quite figured out what I'm doing wrong.
The hubby can do a nice tight cluster on the bullseye with the beast, my
shots usually hit the ground way short of the target. I know the sights
are good, I know how to stand and hold a gun. Like I said, I'm a
dead-eye with 22. The Browie is quite a bit lighter than the 22 so I
thought it would be easier to hold steady, but not so.

I think I may be pulling up my hands at the last second because I hate
the recoil so much. The first time I shot with it my right hand ached
for two weeks afterward. A psychological block of some sort.
Fortunately, I'm not a cop or a soldier so it doesn't much matter.

"Black Dog" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:


I didn't say shooting stuff wasn't fun. I NEVER said shooting stuff
isn't fun. I own guns. Handguns, in fact. At the shooting range there
are man targets that I love. To take them down with the 22 requires a
good head-shot and I can do it 5 out of 5 times. The 9mm I can't hit
the broad side of a barn with.



Are you consistently missing with the 9 mm? Are your sights off? Is your
stance off? Are you not using a good two-handed grip?


Yeah, consistantly. Haven't quite figured out what I'm doing wrong. The
hubby can do a nice tight cluster on the bullseye with the beast, my shots
usually hit the ground way short of the target. I know the sights are
good, I know how to stand and hold a gun. Like I said, I'm a dead-eye with
22. The Browie is quite a bit lighter than the 22 so I thought it would
be easier to hold steady, but not so.

I think I may be pulling up my hands at the last second because I hate the
recoil so much. The first time I shot with it my right hand ached for two
weeks afterward. A psychological block of some sort. Fortunately, I'm not
a cop or a soldier so it doesn't much matter.

Questions & comments:

1) With the 9mm, what distance are the targets at?

2) Which gun? How long's the barrel?

3) In order to eliminate any marital or gun repair issues, check either the
9mm's instruction book, or call the manufacturer and see if it's OK to dry
fire the gun. Or, get some snap caps (fake rounds which you load to protect
the firing pin). Now, practice without real ammo. An explosion at the end of
one's hand is not normal, and you can get into the habit of flinching in
anticipation of the shot. Dry firing gives you an opportunity to keep your
eye on what's important: Sight alignment. If you see the sites becoming
misaligned as you dry fire, then you start working on how you're pulling the
trigger.

4) Here's a chart that links shot placement errors with "errors of the
hand": http://www.targetshooting.ca/docs/Pi...t_Analysis.pdf

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:20:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Black Dog" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:


I didn't say shooting stuff wasn't fun. I NEVER said shooting stuff
isn't fun. I own guns. Handguns, in fact. At the shooting range there
are man targets that I love. To take them down with the 22 requires a
good head-shot and I can do it 5 out of 5 times. The 9mm I can't hit
the broad side of a barn with.



Are you consistently missing with the 9 mm? Are your sights off? Is your
stance off? Are you not using a good two-handed grip?


Yeah, consistantly. Haven't quite figured out what I'm doing wrong. The
hubby can do a nice tight cluster on the bullseye with the beast, my shots
usually hit the ground way short of the target. I know the sights are
good, I know how to stand and hold a gun. Like I said, I'm a dead-eye with
22. The Browie is quite a bit lighter than the 22 so I thought it would
be easier to hold steady, but not so.

I think I may be pulling up my hands at the last second because I hate the
recoil so much. The first time I shot with it my right hand ached for two
weeks afterward. A psychological block of some sort. Fortunately, I'm not
a cop or a soldier so it doesn't much matter.

Questions & comments:

1) With the 9mm, what distance are the targets at?

2) Which gun? How long's the barrel?

3) In order to eliminate any marital or gun repair issues, check either the
9mm's instruction book, or call the manufacturer and see if it's OK to dry
fire the gun. Or, get some snap caps (fake rounds which you load to protect
the firing pin). Now, practice without real ammo. An explosion at the end of
one's hand is not normal, and you can get into the habit of flinching in
anticipation of the shot. Dry firing gives you an opportunity to keep your
eye on what's important: Sight alignment. If you see the sites becoming
misaligned as you dry fire, then you start working on how you're pulling the
trigger.

4) Here's a chart that links shot placement errors with "errors of the
hand": http://www.targetshooting.ca/docs/Pi...t_Analysis.pdf


A few hours spent dry firing at objects on the TV can be a big help also,
in many more ways than one!

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Black Dog" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:

I didn't say shooting stuff wasn't fun. I NEVER said shooting stuff
isn't fun. I own guns. Handguns, in fact. At the shooting range there
are man targets that I love. To take them down with the 22 requires a
good head-shot and I can do it 5 out of 5 times. The 9mm I can't hit
the broad side of a barn with.



Are you consistently missing with the 9 mm? Are your sights off? Is your
stance off? Are you not using a good two-handed grip?


Yeah, consistantly. Haven't quite figured out what I'm doing wrong. The
hubby can do a nice tight cluster on the bullseye with the beast, my shots
usually hit the ground way short of the target. I know the sights are
good, I know how to stand and hold a gun. Like I said, I'm a dead-eye with
22. The Browie is quite a bit lighter than the 22 so I thought it would
be easier to hold steady, but not so.

I think I may be pulling up my hands at the last second because I hate the
recoil so much. The first time I shot with it my right hand ached for two
weeks afterward. A psychological block of some sort. Fortunately, I'm not
a cop or a soldier so it doesn't much matter.


Questions & comments:

1) With the 9mm, what distance are the targets at?

25 yards. I can't even pretend to get near the 50 yard ones. Hell, I
can't even see the 50 yard ones.


2) Which gun? How long's the barrel?

Jeez, I donno. It's a Browning 9mm and it is short and heavy. It is
exactly like the one Indiana Jones has in the movies.


3) In order to eliminate any marital or gun repair issues, check either the
9mm's instruction book, or call the manufacturer and see if it's OK to dry
fire the gun. Or, get some snap caps (fake rounds which you load to protect
the firing pin). Now, practice without real ammo. An explosion at the end of
one's hand is not normal, and you can get into the habit of flinching in
anticipation of the shot. Dry firing gives you an opportunity to keep your
eye on what's important: Sight alignment. If you see the sites becoming
misaligned as you dry fire, then you start working on how you're pulling the
trigger.

Yes. Flinching in anticipation is exactly what I think I am doing. But
I have no ambition to become Annie Oakley. The big bang the 22 makes is
an excellent bear-deterent even though I couldn't take the ******* down
with it if I tried.


4) Here's a chart that links shot placement errors with "errors of the
hand": http://www.targetshooting.ca/docs/Pi...t_Analysis.pdf

Thanks.