Selecting anchor rode for a canoe
 

Can anyone offer any advice on selecting anchor rode for my canoe? One
reason for wanting an anchor is as a safety measure in case of getting
blown out to sea. (I'll be canoeing along the South Coast of England).
My open canoe is 14ft LOA, with a 38" beam. I have two 30mtr lengths
of new 4mm nylon braided cord. I could join them with a fisherman's
knot. The weight tolerance of my 4mm nylon rope is not stated, but
another 4mm braided nylon rope I saw is rated at 900lb tensile
strength.

Thank you,

Al D

Selecting anchor rode for a canoe
 

"Al D" wrote in message
...
Can anyone offer any advice on selecting anchor rode for my canoe? One
reason for wanting an anchor is as a safety measure in case of getting
blown out to sea. (I'll be canoeing along the South Coast of England).
My open canoe is 14ft LOA, with a 38" beam. I have two 30mtr lengths
of new 4mm nylon braided cord. I could join them with a fisherman's
knot. The weight tolerance of my 4mm nylon rope is not stated, but
another 4mm braided nylon rope I saw is rated at 900lb tensile
strength.

Thank you,

Al D

Anyone taking a 14 foot canoe out onto the ocean on the south coast of
England should worry about the type and size of anchor they carry before
worrying about the amount of chain rode needed to keep them from being blown
out to sea.

Here is my suggestion: http://tinyurl.com/eo9fx

But first you may want to make sure you have enough of this before anything:
http://tinyurl.com/k4zyj

;-)

Selecting anchor rode for a canoe
 

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:15:12 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote:

The scope for your rode needs to be at least 7 times the depth, so in 10 meters
of water, you will need a MINIMUM 70 meters of rode, plus a length of chain, and
an anchor. Without adequate chain from the anchor to the rode, the anchor will
not set or hold properly.

Thanks for the guidance. Yes, I am aware of the chain concept. I'm not
sure how much chain and what weight though. The grab anchor weighs
about 3 kg.

In bad conditions you need even more scope and
possibly a kellet added to the gear. Knots in an anchor rode are a complete
no-no, as even the best knots reduce strength by at least 50%

That's new to me. I will definitely buy a single length of rope then.
150 mtrs should do it. Any auggestions about the minimum tensile
strength would be helpful.

I really think you need a whole new plan, if being blown out to sea in your 14
foot canoe is a worry for you.

Well, it's not a big worry, but I feel it's not a bad idea to carry
some sort of defense against such possibilities.

Canoes do not do well at anchor, especially in poor conditions and high winds.

I'm sure you are right. But it's probably better to drop anchor near
the shore rather than get blown further out to sea where the
conditions are possibly worse, and I become harder to find, don't you
think? The canoe might capsize, but it'll stay afloat with its air
bags, and I'll be attached to it still. This is all unlikely to
happen, but it's not imposssible; therefore I feel it makes sense to
carry this added safety measure. But if you still think I need to
rethink I'd be glad to hear your reasoning.

Al D

Selecting anchor rode for a canoe
 

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:10:00 +0100, Al D wrote:

Thanks for the guidance. Yes, I am aware of the chain concept. I'm not
sure how much chain and what weight though. The grab anchor weighs
about 3 kg.

In bad conditions you need even more scope and
possibly a kellet added to the gear. Knots in an anchor rode are a complete
no-no, as even the best knots reduce strength by at least 50%

That's new to me. I will definitely buy a single length of rope then.
150 mtrs should do it. Any auggestions about the minimum tensile
strength would be helpful.

I really think you need a whole new plan, if being blown out to sea in your 14
foot canoe is a worry for you.

Well, it's not a big worry, but I feel it's not a bad idea to carry
some sort of defense against such possibilities.

Canoes do not do well at anchor, especially in poor conditions and high winds.

I'm sure you are right. But it's probably better to drop anchor near
the shore rather than get blown further out to sea where the
conditions are possibly worse, and I become harder to find, don't you
think? The canoe might capsize, but it'll stay afloat with its air
bags, and I'll be attached to it still. This is all unlikely to
happen, but it's not imposssible; therefore I feel it makes sense to
carry this added safety measure. But if you still think I need to
rethink I'd be glad to hear your reasoning.

PS. It seems useful to carry an anchor on a canoe for several reasons
- mostly for use in shallow waters. Obviously, with a long rode, the
anchor becomes useful in deeper water. My main concern is deciding
what type of rope to use. (I.e., the thinnest that would be considered
adequate).

Al D

Selecting anchor rode for a canoe
 

"Al D" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:10:00 +0100, Al D wrote:

Thanks for the guidance. Yes, I am aware of the chain concept. I'm not
sure how much chain and what weight though. The grab anchor weighs
about 3 kg.

In bad conditions you need even more scope and
possibly a kellet added to the gear. Knots in an anchor rode are a
complete
no-no, as even the best knots reduce strength by at least 50%

That's new to me. I will definitely buy a single length of rope then.
150 mtrs should do it. Any auggestions about the minimum tensile
strength would be helpful.

I really think you need a whole new plan, if being blown out to sea in
your 14
foot canoe is a worry for you.

Well, it's not a big worry, but I feel it's not a bad idea to carry
some sort of defense against such possibilities.

Canoes do not do well at anchor, especially in poor conditions and high
winds.

I'm sure you are right. But it's probably better to drop anchor near
the shore rather than get blown further out to sea where the
conditions are possibly worse, and I become harder to find, don't you
think? The canoe might capsize, but it'll stay afloat with its air
bags, and I'll be attached to it still. This is all unlikely to
happen, but it's not imposssible; therefore I feel it makes sense to
carry this added safety measure. But if you still think I need to
rethink I'd be glad to hear your reasoning.

PS. It seems useful to carry an anchor on a canoe for several reasons
- mostly for use in shallow waters. Obviously, with a long rode, the
anchor becomes useful in deeper water. My main concern is deciding
what type of rope to use. (I.e., the thinnest that would be considered
adequate).

Al D


One thick enough to handle without cuttingyour hands.

Selecting anchor rode for a canoe
 

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 22:39:41 GMT, "CalifBill"
wrote:

One thick enough to handle without cuttingyour hands.

Yes - that's a good point - thank you...

Al D

Selecting anchor rode for a canoe
 

JimH wrote:
"Al D" wrote in message
...
Can anyone offer any advice on selecting anchor rode for my canoe? One
reason for wanting an anchor is as a safety measure in case of getting
blown out to sea. (I'll be canoeing along the South Coast of England).
My open canoe is 14ft LOA, with a 38" beam. I have two 30mtr lengths
of new 4mm nylon braided cord. I could join them with a fisherman's
knot. The weight tolerance of my 4mm nylon rope is not stated, but
another 4mm braided nylon rope I saw is rated at 900lb tensile
strength.

Thank you,

Al D

Anyone taking a 14 foot canoe out onto the ocean on the south coast of
England should worry about the type and size of anchor they carry before
worrying about the amount of chain rode needed to keep them from being blown
out to sea.

Here is my suggestion: http://tinyurl.com/eo9fx

But first you may want to make sure you have enough of this before anything:
http://tinyurl.com/k4zyj

;-)


What an insightful and helpful tip, Jim. I'm sure he's appreciative.

Selecting anchor rode for a canoe
 

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JimH wrote:
"Al D" wrote in message
...
Can anyone offer any advice on selecting anchor rode for my canoe? One
reason for wanting an anchor is as a safety measure in case of getting
blown out to sea. (I'll be canoeing along the South Coast of England).
My open canoe is 14ft LOA, with a 38" beam. I have two 30mtr lengths
of new 4mm nylon braided cord. I could join them with a fisherman's
knot. The weight tolerance of my 4mm nylon rope is not stated, but
another 4mm braided nylon rope I saw is rated at 900lb tensile
strength.

Thank you,

Al D

Anyone taking a 14 foot canoe out onto the ocean on the south coast of
England should worry about the type and size of anchor they carry before
worrying about the amount of chain rode needed to keep them from being
blown
out to sea.

Here is my suggestion: http://tinyurl.com/eo9fx

But first you may want to make sure you have enough of this before
anything:
http://tinyurl.com/k4zyj

;-)


What an insightful and helpful tip, Jim. I'm sure he's appreciative.


Ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer.

Selecting anchor rode for a canoe
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Al D" wrote in message
...
Can anyone offer any advice on selecting anchor rode for my canoe?
One
reason for wanting an anchor is as a safety measure in case of
getting
blown out to sea. (I'll be canoeing along the South Coast of
England).
My open canoe is 14ft LOA, with a 38" beam. I have two 30mtr lengths
of new 4mm nylon braided cord. I could join them with a fisherman's
knot. The weight tolerance of my 4mm nylon rope is not stated, but
another 4mm braided nylon rope I saw is rated at 900lb tensile
strength.

Thank you,

Al D

Anyone taking a 14 foot canoe out onto the ocean on the south coast of
England should worry about the type and size of anchor they carry
before
worrying about the amount of chain rode needed to keep them from being
blown
out to sea.

Here is my suggestion: http://tinyurl.com/eo9fx

But first you may want to make sure you have enough of this before
anything:
http://tinyurl.com/k4zyj

;-)


What an insightful and helpful tip, Jim. I'm sure he's appreciative.


Ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer.

What was stupid about his question, Jim?



You have been trolling for a fight with me all morning. Your bait is stale
and I won't bite Kevin. Go start a fight with someone else.

And do have a superspectacular day!!!!

Selecting anchor rode for a canoe
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Al D" wrote in message
...
Can anyone offer any advice on selecting anchor rode for my canoe?
One
reason for wanting an anchor is as a safety measure in case of
getting
blown out to sea. (I'll be canoeing along the South Coast of
England).
My open canoe is 14ft LOA, with a 38" beam. I have two 30mtr lengths
of new 4mm nylon braided cord. I could join them with a fisherman's
knot. The weight tolerance of my 4mm nylon rope is not stated, but
another 4mm braided nylon rope I saw is rated at 900lb tensile
strength.

Thank you,

Al D

Anyone taking a 14 foot canoe out onto the ocean on the south coast of
England should worry about the type and size of anchor they carry
before
worrying about the amount of chain rode needed to keep them from being
blown
out to sea.

Here is my suggestion: http://tinyurl.com/eo9fx

But first you may want to make sure you have enough of this before
anything:
http://tinyurl.com/k4zyj

;-)


What an insightful and helpful tip, Jim. I'm sure he's appreciative.


Ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer.

What was stupid about his question, Jim?



Try to think on your own for a change and figure it out for yourself Kevin.
;-)