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Mike May 31st 06 11:11 PM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Mike


JimH May 31st 06 11:35 PM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 

"Mike" wrote in message
ups.com...
The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Mike


You can try using a carpet steam cleaning machine using a wand and nozzle
attachment. Other than that you can try cleaning it with an 'oxiclean' type
cleaner. We used the 'oxiclean' for a corner area of the headliner on our
last boat (stained from a water leak which I repaired) and it worked great.
It may be too tough of a task for a large headliner area though.



JohnH May 31st 06 11:50 PM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
On 31 May 2006 15:11:06 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Mike


I'd probably try 409. If it's grease, that works about as good as anything.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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jps May 31st 06 11:59 PM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
In article . com,
says...
The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).


I'm pretty sure it goes by the same name as what's in your car.

Headliner.

Cooking grease or smoke doesn't come out of anything very easily.
Probably will take some scrubbing and then it'll probably only improve
incrementally.

Headliner isn't hard to come by and it's not particularly hard to
replace if you're inclined and a little bit handy.

jps

JimH June 1st 06 01:09 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 

JohnH wrote:
On 31 May 2006 15:11:06 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Mike


I'd probably try 409. If it's grease, that works about as good as anything.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


409 on a fabric headliner?

No way!

See my earlier response.


JimH June 1st 06 01:11 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 

jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...
The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).


I'm pretty sure it goes by the same name as what's in your car.

Headliner.

Cooking grease or smoke doesn't come out of anything very easily.
Probably will take some scrubbing and then it'll probably only improve
incrementally.

Headliner isn't hard to come by and it's not particularly hard to
replace if you're inclined and a little bit handy.

jps


Removing and replacing the headliner with nice results is not a job for
even those who are "a bit handy". If it comes to that I would only
trust an experienced contractor.


Mike June 1st 06 01:11 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
Thanks for the quick replies, steam cleaning is a great idea. I have a
friend with a mini steam cleaner which would be perfect to use in the
cabin. 409 is pretty much what I'd tried originally, but some hard
scrubbing might help. And I'll only replace it if all else fails...

Thanks,
Mike


Mike June 1st 06 01:16 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
Thanks for the quick replies, steam cleaning is a great idea. I have a
friend with a mini steam cleaner which would be perfect to use in the
cabin. 409 is pretty much what I'd tried originally, and apparently
that was a bad idea? I'll take a look at oxiclean products, and some
hard scrubbing might help regardless. I won't be trying to replace
that headliner by myself anytime soon--while I love projects, I hate
blunders.

Thanks all,
Mike


jps June 1st 06 01:21 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
In article .com,
says...

jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...
The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).


I'm pretty sure it goes by the same name as what's in your car.

Headliner.

Cooking grease or smoke doesn't come out of anything very easily.
Probably will take some scrubbing and then it'll probably only improve
incrementally.

Headliner isn't hard to come by and it's not particularly hard to
replace if you're inclined and a little bit handy.

jps


Removing and replacing the headliner with nice results is not a job for
even those who are "a bit handy". If it comes to that I would only
trust an experienced contractor.


I'm sure a bonehead could screw it up pretty well but I've done it with
an extremely clean result. I'm not an upholsterer or canvas sewer.
Maybe it's just because I've got mad skills and don't see it. My work
matched very nicely with what was there that didn't require replacement.

jps

JimH June 1st 06 01:27 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 

"Mike" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks for the quick replies, steam cleaning is a great idea. I have a
friend with a mini steam cleaner which would be perfect to use in the
cabin. 409 is pretty much what I'd tried originally, but some hard
scrubbing might help. And I'll only replace it if all else fails...

Thanks,
Mike


We had our carpeting and headliner professionally steam cleaned prior to
selling our last boat....the results were quite impressive.

We have a "Green Machine" steam cleaner and tried it before we called a
professional. The results using that machine were poor, especially
considering the time and effort spent on our part. You may want to consider
just contracting it out to a professional from the beginning and enjoy your
saved time. ;-)

By all means though stay away from off the wall advice,such as from the
person recommending using 409 hard surface cleaner on a headliner fabric. I
doubt those folks have any previous experience with this task and therefore
should have stayed silent in this thread. ;-)



Don White June 1st 06 02:16 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
JimH wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
ups.com...

The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Mike



You can try using a carpet steam cleaning machine using a wand and nozzle
attachment. Other than that you can try cleaning it with an 'oxiclean' type
cleaner. We used the 'oxiclean' for a corner area of the headliner on our
last boat (stained from a water leak which I repaired) and it worked great.
It may be too tough of a task for a large headliner area though.



According to at least one poster here, he'd need a full containment suit
to keep the Oxiclean from damaging his liver, kidneys...etc.

JimH June 1st 06 02:24 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
ups.com...

The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Mike



You can try using a carpet steam cleaning machine using a wand and nozzle
attachment. Other than that you can try cleaning it with an 'oxiclean'
type cleaner. We used the 'oxiclean' for a corner area of the headliner
on our last boat (stained from a water leak which I repaired) and it
worked great. It may be too tough of a task for a large headliner area
though.


According to at least one poster here, he'd need a full containment suit
to keep the Oxiclean from damaging his liver, kidneys...etc.


I have never seen such disclaimers from their product label or website. Can
you refer us to some specific instructions on the use of using full
'containment suits' when using their product?

I am not saying the precautions do not exist..............only that I never
saw them. ;-)



Garth Almgren June 1st 06 03:08 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
Around 5/31/2006 3:11 PM, Mike wrote:

The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).

Any ideas?


Perhaps some Simple Green? That stuff is really great, especially undiluted.

I also like the steam cleaning idea.

--
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"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

Don White June 1st 06 05:04 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:

"Mike" wrote in message
groups.com...


The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Mike



You can try using a carpet steam cleaning machine using a wand and nozzle
attachment. Other than that you can try cleaning it with an 'oxiclean'
type cleaner. We used the 'oxiclean' for a corner area of the headliner
on our last boat (stained from a water leak which I repaired) and it
worked great. It may be too tough of a task for a large headliner area
though.


According to at least one poster here, he'd need a full containment suit
to keep the Oxiclean from damaging his liver, kidneys...etc.



I have never seen such disclaimers from their product label or website. Can
you refer us to some specific instructions on the use of using full
'containment suits' when using their product?

I am not saying the precautions do not exist..............only that I never
saw them. ;-)


Just quoting a poster from the cruising newsgroup. I have a tub of the
stuff from Costco and I do believe it mentions not to get on the skin or
in your mouth/eyes.

Reginald P. Smithers June 1st 06 11:30 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
Mike wrote:
The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Mike

It is called "Mouse Fur". I have found OxyClean and a good degreaser (I
prefer the Orange Cleaner because it smells nice)is a great all around
cleaner for the "Mouse Fur" and the carpeting. It will remove stains
and kill the mildew onboard.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it.

Reginald P. Smithers June 1st 06 11:38 AM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
Mike wrote:
Thanks for the quick replies, steam cleaning is a great idea. I have a
friend with a mini steam cleaner which would be perfect to use in the
cabin. 409 is pretty much what I'd tried originally, but some hard
scrubbing might help. And I'll only replace it if all else fails...

Thanks,
Mike

Mike,.

Use OxyClean in the steam cleaning solution, along with the regular
cleaner. It will look like new. I would pretreat the greasy area of
the "Mouse Fur" with any good degreaser (Orange stuff or 409) and it
should end up looking like new.

The OxyClean will also get rid of the mold and mildew that you have on
most boats.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it.

Reginald P. Smithers June 1st 06 12:13 PM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
Mike wrote:
Thanks for the quick replies, steam cleaning is a great idea. I have a
friend with a mini steam cleaner which would be perfect to use in the
cabin. 409 is pretty much what I'd tried originally, but some hard
scrubbing might help. And I'll only replace it if all else fails...

Thanks,
Mike

Mike,.

Use OxyClean in the steam cleaning solution, along with the regular
cleaner. It will look like new. I would pretreat the greasy area of
the "Mouse Fur" with any good degreaser (Orange stuff or 409) and it
should end up looking like new.

The OxyClean will also get rid of the mold and mildew that you have on
most boats.


PS - The steam cleaner is a great idea and works well, but as long as
you can keep the hatch open so the boat can dry out, it really isn't
necessary. I have soaked the headliner and the carpeting with the
OxyClean solution and Orange cleaner, and then just left the hatches
open to allow the moisture to escape. If you use the steam cleaner, it
will be dry after one day, if you don't it will be dry in two days.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it.

JohnH June 1st 06 07:49 PM

cabin ceiling cleaning
 
On Wed, 31 May 2006 19:08:29 -0700, Garth Almgren
wrote:

Around 5/31/2006 3:11 PM, Mike wrote:

The ceiling of my boat's cabin is stretched white fabric with small
holes over foam (I imagine). I wish I could describe it better, but
even though I think it's a pretty common fixture in cabins, I've never
heard a name for it. In any case, years of cooking and general use has
yellowed it. I've tried spray-on bleach, but with no success (the
spray clouded up the cabin and burned my eyes...and the fabric was
still dirty).

Any ideas?


Perhaps some Simple Green? That stuff is really great, especially undiluted.

I also like the steam cleaning idea.


Simple Green is also a great degreaser. It's kept my motorcycle looking
great for years!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


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