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I'm not a whitewater boater, so take what I say with the right degree of skepticism, but I would think that for a rescue line you want a bit of stretch. For instance, climbing ropes always have a bit of stretch (made out of nylon usually). The Yale and Samson lines in question are intended for use as halyards, sheets, and control lines on a sailboat and are intentionally made to have as little stretch as is possible. I'm not sure that ultra low stretch is what you want in a throw line. For my throwable lines, I just use garden variety 3/8 inch 25 cents a foot polypro - I don't see the need for ultra low stretch or ultra high strength in a throwable. And for docklines, you really don't want low stretch - I've seen boats with damaged hulls because the owner recycled his old sheets as docklines. Let the line absorb the shock, not the boat. Since I'm one of the rescue geeks, I'll take a swing at this one. a dynamic line like poly is fine for a throwrope to recover swimmers since it has a bit of give when that 200 lb boater and kayak full of water hits the end of the line, but since we normally don't have the option to carrying two ropes, you are better of using a static line that can double for your mechanical advantage systems. If you are trying to pull a boat off the a rock while on a steep river bank, the less stretch you have the better. Just as a note, you hardly ever use dynamic lines in vertical rescues. These type of rappelling lines have minimal stretch and very high working loads. BTW, I like the new Rescue Line by Bluewater, cheaper than Spectra and with a decent working load. And it's available in a 5/16" line that packs much better than the 3/8" and still can double as a working line in a mechanical advantage system. |
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oups.com: BTW, I like the new Rescue Line by Bluewater, cheaper than Spectra and with a decent working load. And it's available in a 5/16" line that packs much better than the 3/8" and still can double as a working line in a mechanical advantage system. ....and that won't cut your hands to ribbons, either. |
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In rec.boats.paddle Larry C wrote:
a dynamic line like poly is fine for a throwrope to recover swimmers since it has a bit of give when that 200 lb boater and kayak full of water hits the end of the line, but since we normally don't have the option to carrying two ropes, you are better of using a static line that can double for your mechanical advantage systems. If you are trying to pull a boat off the a rock while on a steep river bank, the less stretch you have the better. The only thing I have to add is that nylon climbing rope, polyester rappel rope, or Kevlar stranded rope (I've seen it) are all terrible as a throwline, because they sink. It was enervating once watching a swimmer unable to grab a sinking line, then wash over a waterfalls. Fortunately he was only mildly injured. I won't divulge who had the idea of putting Kevlar rope in a throwbag. It was for strength I guess, in the days before Spectra. |
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