BoatBanter.com

BoatBanter.com (https://www.boatbanter.com/)
-   General (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/)
-   -   Talking about trailer hitches.. (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/69047-talking-about-trailer-hitches.html)

Don White April 24th 06 06:29 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
I'm going to ust the step bumper on my leased ranger truck to tow my
sailboat. I measured it's height above ground at about 22 inches.
My Voyager minivan hitch is at the 12 inch height but my drawbar raises
that to 15 inches.
A local auto supply store has the flat bar type of drawbar on sale. It's
actually bent to either raise or lower the ball by 4 inches.

Does anyone know if this type bar in installed on top of the step.. or
below? The hole in the step is about 13/16" in diam so I guess I'll
need a 3/4" bolt/nut combo for fastening.

basskisser April 24th 06 07:13 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 

Don White wrote:
I'm going to ust the step bumper on my leased ranger truck to tow my
sailboat. I measured it's height above ground at about 22 inches.
My Voyager minivan hitch is at the 12 inch height but my drawbar raises
that to 15 inches.
A local auto supply store has the flat bar type of drawbar on sale. It's
actually bent to either raise or lower the ball by 4 inches.

Does anyone know if this type bar in installed on top of the step.. or
below? The hole in the step is about 13/16" in diam so I guess I'll
need a 3/4" bolt/nut combo for fastening.


the hole in the step is for a ball, not for a drawbar.


RCE April 24th 06 07:46 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
I'm going to ust the step bumper on my leased ranger truck to tow my
sailboat. I measured it's height above ground at about 22 inches.
My Voyager minivan hitch is at the 12 inch height but my drawbar raises
that to 15 inches.
A local auto supply store has the flat bar type of drawbar on sale. It's
actually bent to either raise or lower the ball by 4 inches.

Does anyone know if this type bar in installed on top of the step.. or
below? The hole in the step is about 13/16" in diam so I guess I'll need
a 3/4" bolt/nut combo for fastening.


Don, I don't know the answer to your question as I don't have a bumper
hitch. However .... have you checked to see what that factory hole in the
bumper hitch provision is rated to tow? It isn't much.

RCE



Stanley Barthfarkle April 24th 06 08:05 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
What's the bumper rated to tow? Also, what is the truck rated to tow? Step
bumpers are usually rated low, like 200 lbs tongue wt and 2000 lb total
weight. A step bumper is usually designed for a directly mounted hitch ball,
not a drawbar. You may need a bolt-on hitch frame to tow your saiboat
properly. It won't screw up the truck, and the holes in the frame will be
invisible once the hitch frame is removed.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
I'm going to ust the step bumper on my leased ranger truck to tow my
sailboat. I measured it's height above ground at about 22 inches.
My Voyager minivan hitch is at the 12 inch height but my drawbar raises
that to 15 inches.
A local auto supply store has the flat bar type of drawbar on sale. It's
actually bent to either raise or lower the ball by 4 inches.

Does anyone know if this type bar in installed on top of the step.. or
below? The hole in the step is about 13/16" in diam so I guess I'll need
a 3/4" bolt/nut combo for fastening.




Don White April 24th 06 09:32 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
basskisser wrote:


the hole in the step is for a ball, not for a drawbar.


Might be too high. I was hoping to use item # 8002965 on page 15 of the
'free flyer' that you can download.
http://www.princessauto.com/PAcountr...NF=tra&SEC=tra
item 50% off on sale for $9.99

Don White April 24th 06 09:32 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

I'm going to ust the step bumper on my leased ranger truck to tow my
sailboat. I measured it's height above ground at about 22 inches.
My Voyager minivan hitch is at the 12 inch height but my drawbar raises
that to 15 inches.
A local auto supply store has the flat bar type of drawbar on sale. It's
actually bent to either raise or lower the ball by 4 inches.

Does anyone know if this type bar in installed on top of the step.. or
below? The hole in the step is about 13/16" in diam so I guess I'll need
a 3/4" bolt/nut combo for fastening.



Don, I don't know the answer to your question as I don't have a bumper
hitch. However .... have you checked to see what that factory hole in the
bumper hitch provision is rated to tow? It isn't much.

RCE



Yes... 2000 pounds with 200 lbs tongue weight. Perfect for my load. If
I had bought the truck instead of a three year lease, I'd install a
Class 2 hitch.

JimH April 24th 06 09:56 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

I'm going to ust the step bumper on my leased ranger truck to tow my
sailboat. I measured it's height above ground at about 22 inches.
My Voyager minivan hitch is at the 12 inch height but my drawbar raises
that to 15 inches.
A local auto supply store has the flat bar type of drawbar on sale. It's
actually bent to either raise or lower the ball by 4 inches.

Does anyone know if this type bar in installed on top of the step.. or
below? The hole in the step is about 13/16" in diam so I guess I'll
need a 3/4" bolt/nut combo for fastening.



Don, I don't know the answer to your question as I don't have a bumper
hitch. However .... have you checked to see what that factory hole in
the bumper hitch provision is rated to tow? It isn't much.

RCE


Yes... 2000 pounds with 200 lbs tongue weight. Perfect for my load. If I
had bought the truck instead of a three year lease, I'd install a Class 2
hitch.


Buy a class 3 hitch for $114. Bolts right on without drilling.
http://tinyurl.com/l3a6a

Remove it before turning in the truck at the end of the lease and sell it on
Ebay to recoup some of your money.



Dan Krueger April 25th 06 12:28 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
JimH wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

RCE wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...


I'm going to ust the step bumper on my leased ranger truck to tow my
sailboat. I measured it's height above ground at about 22 inches.
My Voyager minivan hitch is at the 12 inch height but my drawbar raises
that to 15 inches.
A local auto supply store has the flat bar type of drawbar on sale. It's
actually bent to either raise or lower the ball by 4 inches.

Does anyone know if this type bar in installed on top of the step.. or
below? The hole in the step is about 13/16" in diam so I guess I'll
need a 3/4" bolt/nut combo for fastening.


Don, I don't know the answer to your question as I don't have a bumper
hitch. However .... have you checked to see what that factory hole in
the bumper hitch provision is rated to tow? It isn't much.

RCE


Yes... 2000 pounds with 200 lbs tongue weight. Perfect for my load. If I
had bought the truck instead of a three year lease, I'd install a Class 2
hitch.



Buy a class 3 hitch for $114. Bolts right on without drilling.
http://tinyurl.com/l3a6a

Remove it before turning in the truck at the end of the lease and sell it on
Ebay to recoup some of your money.



I'm glad I read ahead. There is a good market for used hitches. I had
two leased Jeep Grand Cherokees and both bolted on easily without
drilling. I paid maybe $200 and sold it for about $100 after six years.

Dan

Richard J Kinch April 25th 06 03:09 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Don White writes:

I had bought the truck instead of a three year lease, I'd install a
Class 2 hitch.


Does your lease even permit towing?

Don White April 25th 06 01:57 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Richard J Kinch wrote:
Don White writes:


I had bought the truck instead of a three year lease, I'd install a
Class 2 hitch.



Does your lease even permit towing?



Why wouldn't it?
They brag about the Ford Ranger's towing capacity and I mentioned same
to both my salesman 'and' the dealership manager. I even asked them for
advice on how to properly use the safety chains on the step bumper...and
they sent me over to the body shop manager for an answer.

Richard J Kinch April 25th 06 10:28 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Don White writes:

Does your lease even permit towing?


Why wouldn't it?


Lot more wear and tear on the vehicle.

I would check the fine print. Make sure you won't get nailed for double
mileage or something for having installed a hitch.

Reginald P. Smithers April 26th 06 12:53 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Don,
Seriously double check the fine print. The salesman has no concerns if they
charge you extra for additional wear and tear on the truck.

It is the norm for people to get charged extra for anything they considered
excessive wear and tear.

--

Reggie


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Richard J Kinch wrote:
Don White writes:


I had bought the truck instead of a three year lease, I'd install a Class
2 hitch.



Does your lease even permit towing?



Why wouldn't it?
They brag about the Ford Ranger's towing capacity and I mentioned same to
both my salesman 'and' the dealership manager. I even asked them for
advice on how to properly use the safety chains on the step bumper...and
they sent me over to the body shop manager for an answer.




Don White April 26th 06 04:13 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
Don,
Seriously double check the fine print. The salesman has no concerns if they
charge you extra for additional wear and tear on the truck.

It is the norm for people to get charged extra for anything they considered
excessive wear and tear.


Checked the lease. Couldn't find towing mentioned anywhere.
I'm allowed 20K kilometers a year...be lucky to do half that since the
wife and youngest son pretty much use the old mini-van.

Reginald P. Smithers April 26th 06 04:38 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Then you should be in the clear about using it to pull your light boat,but
make sure you keep it clean, without any dings or dents, from the parking
lot. Whatever you do don't stain the carpeting or cloth seats. I have
heard horror stories where the dealer wanted to charge so much for the
"extra wear and tear" which the owner thought was "normal wear and tear",
the owners found it cheaper to buy the car and the resell it on their own.
These were attorneys who used the car for work, and it picked up the normal
small dings in the parking lot.

It sounds like you got one hell of a deal, and hopefully you will come out
ahead in the lease. My personal cars I have always kept as long as they
would runs reliablly, so I have never considered a lease.

Oh, and you really are a *******. ; )


--

Reggie


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
Don,
Seriously double check the fine print. The salesman has no concerns if
they charge you extra for additional wear and tear on the truck.

It is the norm for people to get charged extra for anything they
considered excessive wear and tear.


Checked the lease. Couldn't find towing mentioned anywhere.
I'm allowed 20K kilometers a year...be lucky to do half that since the
wife and youngest son pretty much use the old mini-van.




Don White April 26th 06 01:34 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
Then you should be in the clear about using it to pull your light boat,but
make sure you keep it clean, without any dings or dents, from the parking
lot. Whatever you do don't stain the carpeting or cloth seats. I have
heard horror stories where the dealer wanted to charge so much for the
"extra wear and tear" which the owner thought was "normal wear and tear",
the owners found it cheaper to buy the car and the resell it on their own.
These were attorneys who used the car for work, and it picked up the normal
small dings in the parking lot.

It sounds like you got one hell of a deal, and hopefully you will come out
ahead in the lease. My personal cars I have always kept as long as they
would runs reliablly, so I have never considered a lease.

Oh, and you really are a *******. ; )


This is the first time I have ever leased a vehicle and you're adding to
the anxiety. They tell me the local Ford dealership is very forgiving
when it comes to 'wear & tear and they have a credit card sized gage
that they use to judge any body metal dings etc. If the ding is
smaller...you're in the clear.
I'll baby that truck over the next three years....should be good as new.
One complaint... I'd rather have the regular cab. I find the 'Super Cab'
as too many blind spots when backing up.


Don White April 26th 06 01:49 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Don White wrote:

This is the first time I have ever leased a vehicle and you're adding to
the anxiety. They tell me the local Ford dealership is very forgiving
when it comes to 'wear & tear and they have a credit card sized gage
that they use to judge any body metal dings etc. If the ding is
smaller...you're in the clear.
I'll baby that truck over the next three years....should be good as new.
One complaint... I'd rather have the regular cab. I find the 'Super Cab'
as too many blind spots when backing up.



BTW.. I have an 1100 hrs appointment with the local U-haul to install a
Class 2 hitch.
Everyone else either wanted too much money, too busy to install this
week, or had to order the hitch in. (wanted one where no additional
holes needed drilling)
I picked the Class 2 because I already have the 1 & 1/4" draw bar from
my mini-van and the truck is only rated from 2480 - 3500 lbs anyway.
My total towed weight should be a bit shy of 2000 lbs.

Don White April 26th 06 05:48 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
WTF....
Trying to be cheap, I decided I'd use my old drawbar and ball until my
new trailer arrives next month.
Trouble is... it's set up so the drawbar raises the ball 3.5" above the
receiver....good for my mini-van which seems a bit low in the rear.
The Ranger is another matter...
I struggled with removing the ball and reversing the drawbar so the ball
would be about 3 inches lower than the receiver. No way I could loosen
the nut. I even inserted the 1.25" shaft into the receiver..applied
torque with my adjustable wrench while banging it with my 2.5 lb cub
hammer. No go.
I was going to buy the nearly straight drawbar anyway (1.5" drop) from
receiver and a 2" ball to accomodate the new trailer. Guess I'll have
to waste the $14.00 to get another 1 & 7/8" ball to move the boat around
for the next little while.






JohnH April 26th 06 07:55 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:34:18 GMT, Don White wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
Then you should be in the clear about using it to pull your light boat,but
make sure you keep it clean, without any dings or dents, from the parking
lot. Whatever you do don't stain the carpeting or cloth seats. I have
heard horror stories where the dealer wanted to charge so much for the
"extra wear and tear" which the owner thought was "normal wear and tear",
the owners found it cheaper to buy the car and the resell it on their own.
These were attorneys who used the car for work, and it picked up the normal
small dings in the parking lot.

It sounds like you got one hell of a deal, and hopefully you will come out
ahead in the lease. My personal cars I have always kept as long as they
would runs reliablly, so I have never considered a lease.

Oh, and you really are a *******. ; )


This is the first time I have ever leased a vehicle and you're adding to
the anxiety. They tell me the local Ford dealership is very forgiving
when it comes to 'wear & tear and they have a credit card sized gage
that they use to judge any body metal dings etc. If the ding is
smaller...you're in the clear.
I'll baby that truck over the next three years....should be good as new.
One complaint... I'd rather have the regular cab. I find the 'Super Cab'
as too many blind spots when backing up.


I once rented a car in Seattle and when I took it back they tried to get me
for a couple pre-existing dents. I told them I'd call my brother to come
and verify that the dents were already there. They let me use the phone,
figuring (I guess) that they'd just argue with him also. So I called him.

My brother showed up in his police cruiser. They decided to take the car
back without argument.

Have them jot down on your contract the bit about the credit card sized
measuring tool!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

basskisser April 26th 06 09:09 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:34:18 GMT, Don White wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
Then you should be in the clear about using it to pull your light boat,but
make sure you keep it clean, without any dings or dents, from the parking
lot. Whatever you do don't stain the carpeting or cloth seats. I have
heard horror stories where the dealer wanted to charge so much for the
"extra wear and tear" which the owner thought was "normal wear and tear",
the owners found it cheaper to buy the car and the resell it on their own.
These were attorneys who used the car for work, and it picked up the normal
small dings in the parking lot.

It sounds like you got one hell of a deal, and hopefully you will come out
ahead in the lease. My personal cars I have always kept as long as they
would runs reliablly, so I have never considered a lease.

Oh, and you really are a *******. ; )


This is the first time I have ever leased a vehicle and you're adding to
the anxiety. They tell me the local Ford dealership is very forgiving
when it comes to 'wear & tear and they have a credit card sized gage
that they use to judge any body metal dings etc. If the ding is
smaller...you're in the clear.
I'll baby that truck over the next three years....should be good as new.
One complaint... I'd rather have the regular cab. I find the 'Super Cab'
as too many blind spots when backing up.


I once rented a car in Seattle and when I took it back they tried to get me
for a couple pre-existing dents. I told them I'd call my brother to come
and verify that the dents were already there. They let me use the phone,
figuring (I guess) that they'd just argue with him also. So I called him.

My brother showed up in his police cruiser. They decided to take the car
back without argument.

Have them jot down on your contract the bit about the credit card sized
measuring tool!
--
'Til next time,

John H

There's a consumer advocate around these parts that I listen to on the
radio sometimes. He's quite a smart guy. I've learned from people
calling in with horror stories that I will never, ever, ever lease a
vehicle.


Reginald P. Smithers April 26th 06 10:45 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
I have listened to Clark Howard, it there are many people who do have
problems. If you keep the car well maintained, keep documents of following
mfg. suggested schedule, park your car away from others in the parking lot,
keep the interior spotless you should not have a problem.

Since I keep my cars as long as possible, I do all that already, but there
are some who think you can let things slide, ignore the dings on the side of
the car, and not worry about it because you are returning the car in 2 or 3
years. They normally are very very surprised at what they charge to repair
these items.

Don, since you have just closed on the deal with the Ford dealer, I would
ask them to put the "credit card gage" in writting. It is much easier to do
that before, but even now, would be better than at the end of the lease.



--

Reggie


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:34:18 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
Then you should be in the clear about using it to pull your light
boat,but
make sure you keep it clean, without any dings or dents, from the
parking
lot. Whatever you do don't stain the carpeting or cloth seats. I
have
heard horror stories where the dealer wanted to charge so much for the
"extra wear and tear" which the owner thought was "normal wear and
tear",
the owners found it cheaper to buy the car and the resell it on their
own.
These were attorneys who used the car for work, and it picked up the
normal
small dings in the parking lot.

It sounds like you got one hell of a deal, and hopefully you will come
out
ahead in the lease. My personal cars I have always kept as long as
they
would runs reliablly, so I have never considered a lease.

Oh, and you really are a *******. ; )


This is the first time I have ever leased a vehicle and you're adding to
the anxiety. They tell me the local Ford dealership is very forgiving
when it comes to 'wear & tear and they have a credit card sized gage
that they use to judge any body metal dings etc. If the ding is
smaller...you're in the clear.
I'll baby that truck over the next three years....should be good as new.
One complaint... I'd rather have the regular cab. I find the 'Super Cab'
as too many blind spots when backing up.


I once rented a car in Seattle and when I took it back they tried to get
me
for a couple pre-existing dents. I told them I'd call my brother to come
and verify that the dents were already there. They let me use the phone,
figuring (I guess) that they'd just argue with him also. So I called him.

My brother showed up in his police cruiser. They decided to take the car
back without argument.

Have them jot down on your contract the bit about the credit card sized
measuring tool!
--
'Til next time,

John H

There's a consumer advocate around these parts that I listen to on the
radio sometimes. He's quite a smart guy. I've learned from people
calling in with horror stories that I will never, ever, ever lease a
vehicle.




Dan Krueger April 27th 06 12:49 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Richard J Kinch wrote:
Don White writes:


Does your lease even permit towing?




Why wouldn't it?



Lot more wear and tear on the vehicle.

I would check the fine print. Make sure you won't get nailed for double
mileage or something for having installed a hitch.


I've never heard of that. I've had leased Jeeps, an Acura, and a BMW
with towing packages from the dealer. The most "towing miles" are a
with bicycle on a rack. The boat moves maybe 1500 feet and back unless
there is another destination outside of the yard. How could they double
the mileage based on a hitch when additional wear and tear can't be
measured?

Dan

Dan Krueger April 27th 06 01:05 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:

I have listened to Clark Howard, it there are many people who do have
problems. If you keep the car well maintained, keep documents of following
mfg. suggested schedule, park your car away from others in the parking lot,
keep the interior spotless you should not have a problem.

Since I keep my cars as long as possible, I do all that already, but there
are some who think you can let things slide, ignore the dings on the side of
the car, and not worry about it because you are returning the car in 2 or 3
years. They normally are very very surprised at what they charge to repair
these items.

Don, since you have just closed on the deal with the Ford dealer, I would
ask them to put the "credit card gage" in writting. It is much easier to do
that before, but even now, would be better than at the end of the lease.




The end of lease allowances are readily available in advance. Even
though I lease most of my cars, I still take care of them as if they
were the last car I'll own. If you abuse you car, leasing isn't for
you. I have heard that different manufacturers are tougher at trade in
time but I haven't paid a dime to Honda, Nissan, Acura (Honda), Toyota,
Jeep, or BMW. This gauge you refer to is usually a simple ruler.
Nissan actually sent me one prior to my lease expiration. No dents over
2" in diameter, no more than one dent per panel, tire wear less than xxx
thousands, etc. It's really just normal wear and tear.

The one thing I have learned with leasing is that you need to pay
attention to the tires. I made the mistake of buying new tires for a
Jeep when I lived up north only a few months before I turned it in. I
should have done it several months earlier so I would have benefited
from their better performance. On the other side, I have waited a bit
longer to change tires on my BMW's so I don't have to buy a third set
right at trade in time. That can save you north of $1000.00.

Dan

Don White April 27th 06 01:18 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
I have listened to Clark Howard, it there are many people who do have
problems. If you keep the car well maintained, keep documents of following
mfg. suggested schedule, park your car away from others in the parking lot,
keep the interior spotless you should not have a problem.

Since I keep my cars as long as possible, I do all that already, but there
are some who think you can let things slide, ignore the dings on the side of
the car, and not worry about it because you are returning the car in 2 or 3
years. They normally are very very surprised at what they charge to repair
these items.

Don, since you have just closed on the deal with the Ford dealer, I would
ask them to put the "credit card gage" in writting. It is much easier to do
that before, but even now, would be better than at the end of the lease.



Actually, I took delivery of the Ranger on March 30.

JimH April 27th 06 02:04 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
I have listened to Clark Howard, it there are many people who do have
problems. If you keep the car well maintained, keep documents of
following mfg. suggested schedule, park your car away from others in the
parking lot, keep the interior spotless you should not have a problem.

Since I keep my cars as long as possible, I do all that already, but
there are some who think you can let things slide, ignore the dings on
the side of the car, and not worry about it because you are returning the
car in 2 or 3 years. They normally are very very surprised at what they
charge to repair these items.

Don, since you have just closed on the deal with the Ford dealer, I
would ask them to put the "credit card gage" in writting. It is much
easier to do that before, but even now, would be better than at the end
of the lease.



Actually, I took delivery of the Ranger on March 30.



I think some folks here assume that you cannot think for yourself Don. ;-)



Don White April 27th 06 02:54 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Reginald P. Smithers wrote:

I have listened to Clark Howard, it there are many people who do have
problems. If you keep the car well maintained, keep documents of
following mfg. suggested schedule, park your car away from others in the
parking lot, keep the interior spotless you should not have a problem.

Since I keep my cars as long as possible, I do all that already, but
there are some who think you can let things slide, ignore the dings on
the side of the car, and not worry about it because you are returning the
car in 2 or 3 years. They normally are very very surprised at what they
charge to repair these items.

Don, since you have just closed on the deal with the Ford dealer, I
would ask them to put the "credit card gage" in writting. It is much
easier to do that before, but even now, would be better than at the end
of the lease.




Actually, I took delivery of the Ranger on March 30.




I think some folks here assume that you cannot think for yourself Don. ;-)


If the dealership stays under current management, I doubt I'd have a
problem. If some new hardass took over...who knows.
My first thought was to lease a vehicle I planned on keeping.....
or find enough of a downpayment to keep the monthly purchase payments
reasonable. Couldn't decide if I wanted a new RAV4, a Sienna or a
Tundra 6 cyl 2WD. I compromised.
This Ranger deal just seemed too good to let slide.

Richard J Kinch April 27th 06 06:21 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Dan Krueger writes:

How could they double
the mileage based on a hitch when additional wear and tear can't be
measured?


How could they? By putting it in the lease contract. You install a hitch,
you pay extra by some formula.

Short-term car rentals prohibit towing altogether. You pay infinity extra.

Long-term leases would not surprise me if they did the same, or charged a
penalty rate. It certainly would be exploited if they didn't. Heavy
towing is *very* expensive because it shortens the life of the transmission
before a rebuild is needed. The towing package just makes it possible to
do so.

But the same could be said of living in a mountainous region versus South
Florida.

basskisser April 27th 06 03:01 PM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 

Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
I have listened to Clark Howard, it there are many people who do have
problems. If you keep the car well maintained, keep documents of following
mfg. suggested schedule, park your car away from others in the parking lot,
keep the interior spotless you should not have a problem.



You also can't drive it hardly at all. Believe me, I've known people
who've leased, three different people, and all three say never again.
They look for reasons to ding you at the end.



Dan Krueger April 29th 06 02:19 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Richard J Kinch wrote:

Dan Krueger writes:


How could they double
the mileage based on a hitch when additional wear and tear can't be
measured?



How could they? By putting it in the lease contract. You install a hitch,
you pay extra by some formula.

Short-term car rentals prohibit towing altogether. You pay infinity extra.

Long-term leases would not surprise me if they did the same, or charged a
penalty rate. It certainly would be exploited if they didn't. Heavy
towing is *very* expensive because it shortens the life of the transmission
before a rebuild is needed. The towing package just makes it possible to
do so.

But the same could be said of living in a mountainous region versus South
Florida.



Dick,

"Some formula"? You don't lease a vehicle with a contract that allows
the manufacturer to add their policies later. I doubt anything like
this exists.

I don't get the rental and "infinity extra" thing at all. Are you
talking about a short lease?

I'm going to guess that you have no idea. I've leased a lot of cars and
trucks and never seen this. Maybe someone else has had that in their
contract. I doubt it.

Dan

Richard J Kinch April 29th 06 05:57 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Dan Krueger writes:

You don't lease a vehicle with a contract that allows
the manufacturer to add their policies later.


Your typical car rental contract prohibits "towing or propelling any other
vehicle".

Wouldn't surprise me if a longer term lease did, too.

Dan Krueger April 30th 06 12:23 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Richard J Kinch wrote:

Dan Krueger writes:


You don't lease a vehicle with a contract that allows
the manufacturer to add their policies later.



Your typical car rental contract prohibits "towing or propelling any other
vehicle".

Wouldn't surprise me if a longer term lease did, too.


Dick,

Wrong again. Stop guessing and check the lease - that might "surprise"
you. Why would they install a towing package on a leased vehicle if
towing wasn't allowed?

Dan

Don White April 30th 06 12:31 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Dan Krueger wrote:
Richard J Kinch wrote:

Dan Krueger writes:


You don't lease a vehicle with a contract that allows the
manufacturer to add their policies later.




Your typical car rental contract prohibits "towing or propelling any
other vehicle".

Wouldn't surprise me if a longer term lease did, too.



Dick,

Wrong again. Stop guessing and check the lease - that might "surprise"
you. Why would they install a towing package on a leased vehicle if
towing wasn't allowed?

Dan



Things must be different where Richard lives.
When I leased the Ranger pickup, I told anyone who would listen that I
wanted the truck to tow my sailboat. I even went back and corralled my
salesman and the sales manager for advice on attaching the s type safety
chains to the step bumper if i could tow that way.
They sent me across the street to talk to the body shop manager who tows
quite a bit. I did eventually get a Class 2 hitch because of the height
of the bumper.
At Smithers insistence I checked my lease...no tow restrictions. (unless
it's in invisible ink)

Richard J Kinch April 30th 06 02:50 AM

Talking about trailer hitches..
 
Dan Krueger writes:

Wrong again. Stop guessing and check the lease.


Cripes. I am just cautioning the guy. Myself, I just pay cash.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:01 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com