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Doug Kanter April 21st 06 07:03 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 
Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.



Hans April 21st 06 07:44 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:03:46 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.



A bunch of money but my wife loves it:

http://www.oreck.com/canister-vacuum...nister_vac.cfm

Doug Kanter April 21st 06 07:46 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

"Hans" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:03:46 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.



A bunch of money but my wife loves it:

http://www.oreck.com/canister-vacuum...nister_vac.cfm


Damn! That *is* pricey.



RG April 21st 06 09:11 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.


I keep one of these on the boat. Seems to do the job. My only complaint is
the thing is about as loud as an F16 in full afterburn. But it doesn't take
long to vacuum the inside of my boat, so I tolerate it. I like that the
hose is detachable for tight areas, and that the unit is easy to stow.

http://tinyurl.com/pfgax

Russ



Doug Kanter April 21st 06 09:16 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

"RG" wrote in message
. ..

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.


I keep one of these on the boat. Seems to do the job. My only complaint
is the thing is about as loud as an F16 in full afterburn. But it doesn't
take long to vacuum the inside of my boat, so I tolerate it. I like that
the hose is detachable for tight areas, and that the unit is easy to stow.

http://tinyurl.com/pfgax

Russ


That got some nasty reviews from users. Has your belt broken or gone up in
flames yet?



RG April 21st 06 09:43 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

That got some nasty reviews from users. Has your belt broken or gone up in
flames yet?


I saw those. No problems from mine, but I'm sure it doesn't get the run
time that one might get in a home setting. I've probably had it for a
couple of years, but I'd be surprised if it has more than an hour or two of
run time. It only takes me about 5 minutes to fully vacuum the cabin and
cockpit carpet. I particularly liked the complaint about pet hair clogging
the unit and causing it to overheat. I'm guessing cleaning it out once in a
while might have prevented that problem. Also sounds like maybe they didn't
put it back together right. The part about the pet hair clogging the filter
compartment before going into the canister makes no sense. With a bagless
hepa filter vacuum, the filtering is done as the air exhausts the unit.
Dirt is trapped before it gets to the filter due to cyclonic action.
However, there does seem to be a consensus that locating and purchasing a
replacement belt is nearly impossible. I have no idea what the belts cost,
but I'm thinking that by the time you purchase the belt, pay for shipping,
spend untold time on the phone screaming at someone for three months, why
not just go down to Target and buy another unit for $28? How much money are
you really saving? Or buy something else, if you got such bad service from
the original.

Bottom line, based on my experience and those reviews, if you expect it to
do light duty and are looking for an easy stow, it's probably a good choice.
If you expect it to pull heavy duty and last forever, you probably need to
keep looking.



Doug Kanter April 21st 06 10:01 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

"RG" wrote in message
. ..

That got some nasty reviews from users. Has your belt broken or gone up
in flames yet?


I saw those. No problems from mine, but I'm sure it doesn't get the run
time that one might get in a home setting. I've probably had it for a
couple of years, but I'd be surprised if it has more than an hour or two
of run time. It only takes me about 5 minutes to fully vacuum the cabin
and cockpit carpet. I particularly liked the complaint about pet hair
clogging the unit and causing it to overheat. I'm guessing cleaning it
out once in a while might have prevented that problem. Also sounds like
maybe they didn't put it back together right. The part about the pet hair
clogging the filter compartment before going into the canister makes no
sense. With a bagless hepa filter vacuum, the filtering is done as the
air exhausts the unit. Dirt is trapped before it gets to the filter due to
cyclonic action. However, there does seem to be a consensus that locating
and purchasing a replacement belt is nearly impossible. I have no idea
what the belts cost, but I'm thinking that by the time you purchase the
belt, pay for shipping, spend untold time on the phone screaming at
someone for three months, why not just go down to Target and buy another
unit for $28? How much money are you really saving? Or buy something
else, if you got such bad service from the original.

Bottom line, based on my experience and those reviews, if you expect it to
do light duty and are looking for an easy stow, it's probably a good
choice. If you expect it to pull heavy duty and last forever, you probably
need to keep looking.


This is for one use: Hair on the bathroom floor. 60 seconds every 2 days,
when I don't want to haul out the big canister vac.



RG April 21st 06 10:12 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 


This is for one use: Hair on the bathroom floor. 60 seconds every 2 days,
when I don't want to haul out the big canister vac.


It's been a very long time since I've owned one, but for that use, I'd be
tempted to look into a wall-mounted cordless unit. Used to be called
Dustbusters back in the day. I'm usually not a fan of cordless units, they
typically don't have the suction of 110v units. But hair off a tile floor
(I presume it's tile or some hard surface) is an easy pickup. Not a lot of
suction required. I'm thinking that battery technology has improved greatly
since I owned one of those things. For your specific use, I think I'd go
with the convenience of a nearby wall-mounted cordless rechargeable unit.
No messing with cords and potential electrocution hazards, and no bothersome
belts to worry about going up in smoke.



Doug Kanter April 21st 06 10:37 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

"RG" wrote in message
.. .


This is for one use: Hair on the bathroom floor. 60 seconds every 2 days,
when I don't want to haul out the big canister vac.


It's been a very long time since I've owned one, but for that use, I'd be
tempted to look into a wall-mounted cordless unit. Used to be called
Dustbusters back in the day. I'm usually not a fan of cordless units,
they typically don't have the suction of 110v units. But hair off a tile
floor (I presume it's tile or some hard surface) is an easy pickup. Not a
lot of suction required. I'm thinking that battery technology has
improved greatly since I owned one of those things. For your specific
use, I think I'd go with the convenience of a nearby wall-mounted cordless
rechargeable unit. No messing with cords and potential electrocution
hazards, and no bothersome belts to worry about going up in smoke.


I've had several of those Dustbuster things. I was given one as a gift last
Spring - one of the "improved" Black & Decker things. As with all the
previous ones, the battery died an early death. I won't own them any more.



JohnH April 21st 06 11:19 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:37:49 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"RG" wrote in message
. ..


This is for one use: Hair on the bathroom floor. 60 seconds every 2 days,
when I don't want to haul out the big canister vac.


It's been a very long time since I've owned one, but for that use, I'd be
tempted to look into a wall-mounted cordless unit. Used to be called
Dustbusters back in the day. I'm usually not a fan of cordless units,
they typically don't have the suction of 110v units. But hair off a tile
floor (I presume it's tile or some hard surface) is an easy pickup. Not a
lot of suction required. I'm thinking that battery technology has
improved greatly since I owned one of those things. For your specific
use, I think I'd go with the convenience of a nearby wall-mounted cordless
rechargeable unit. No messing with cords and potential electrocution
hazards, and no bothersome belts to worry about going up in smoke.


I've had several of those Dustbuster things. I was given one as a gift last
Spring - one of the "improved" Black & Decker things. As with all the
previous ones, the battery died an early death. I won't own them any more.


They last much longer if you just turn them on and let them run down to
nothing once in a while. We've had one for about five years now that works
quite well. It's a Eureka, 'the BOSS'.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Doug Kanter April 21st 06 11:30 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:37:49 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"RG" wrote in message
...


This is for one use: Hair on the bathroom floor. 60 seconds every 2
days,
when I don't want to haul out the big canister vac.

It's been a very long time since I've owned one, but for that use, I'd
be
tempted to look into a wall-mounted cordless unit. Used to be called
Dustbusters back in the day. I'm usually not a fan of cordless units,
they typically don't have the suction of 110v units. But hair off a
tile
floor (I presume it's tile or some hard surface) is an easy pickup. Not
a
lot of suction required. I'm thinking that battery technology has
improved greatly since I owned one of those things. For your specific
use, I think I'd go with the convenience of a nearby wall-mounted
cordless
rechargeable unit. No messing with cords and potential electrocution
hazards, and no bothersome belts to worry about going up in smoke.


I've had several of those Dustbuster things. I was given one as a gift
last
Spring - one of the "improved" Black & Decker things. As with all the
previous ones, the battery died an early death. I won't own them any more.


They last much longer if you just turn them on and let them run down to
nothing once in a while. We've had one for about five years now that works
quite well. It's a Eureka, 'the BOSS'.
--
'Til next time,

John H


It does that all by itself, in about 15 seconds. :)



Jack Goff April 22nd 06 02:24 AM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:37:49 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"RG" wrote in message
. ..


This is for one use: Hair on the bathroom floor. 60 seconds every 2 days,
when I don't want to haul out the big canister vac.


It's been a very long time since I've owned one, but for that use, I'd be
tempted to look into a wall-mounted cordless unit. Used to be called
Dustbusters back in the day. I'm usually not a fan of cordless units,
they typically don't have the suction of 110v units. But hair off a tile
floor (I presume it's tile or some hard surface) is an easy pickup. Not a
lot of suction required. I'm thinking that battery technology has
improved greatly since I owned one of those things. For your specific
use, I think I'd go with the convenience of a nearby wall-mounted cordless
rechargeable unit. No messing with cords and potential electrocution
hazards, and no bothersome belts to worry about going up in smoke.


I've had several of those Dustbuster things. I was given one as a gift last
Spring - one of the "improved" Black & Decker things. As with all the
previous ones, the battery died an early death. I won't own them any more.


You can't leave it on the charger all the time. It will cook the
batteries, and quickly. Charge it up, take it off, then use it
intermittantly until it gets slow. Then place on the charger,
recharge, and repeat.

Jack



JohnH April 22nd 06 02:44 AM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:30:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:37:49 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"RG" wrote in message
m...


This is for one use: Hair on the bathroom floor. 60 seconds every 2
days,
when I don't want to haul out the big canister vac.

It's been a very long time since I've owned one, but for that use, I'd
be
tempted to look into a wall-mounted cordless unit. Used to be called
Dustbusters back in the day. I'm usually not a fan of cordless units,
they typically don't have the suction of 110v units. But hair off a
tile
floor (I presume it's tile or some hard surface) is an easy pickup. Not
a
lot of suction required. I'm thinking that battery technology has
improved greatly since I owned one of those things. For your specific
use, I think I'd go with the convenience of a nearby wall-mounted
cordless
rechargeable unit. No messing with cords and potential electrocution
hazards, and no bothersome belts to worry about going up in smoke.


I've had several of those Dustbuster things. I was given one as a gift
last
Spring - one of the "improved" Black & Decker things. As with all the
previous ones, the battery died an early death. I won't own them any more.


They last much longer if you just turn them on and let them run down to
nothing once in a while. We've had one for about five years now that works
quite well. It's a Eureka, 'the BOSS'.
--
'Til next time,

John H


It does that all by itself, in about 15 seconds. :)


Well, that's 'cause you didn't treat the battery right!
I also leave phones off their cradles and let them run down every so often,
and cameras, and anything else rechargeable I can think of. I'm sure some
battery experts will tell me I'm foolish, but I'm getting old and senile
and can do what I want.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

RCE April 22nd 06 02:52 AM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:30:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:37:49 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"RG" wrote in message
om...


This is for one use: Hair on the bathroom floor. 60 seconds every 2
days,
when I don't want to haul out the big canister vac.

It's been a very long time since I've owned one, but for that use, I'd
be
tempted to look into a wall-mounted cordless unit. Used to be called
Dustbusters back in the day. I'm usually not a fan of cordless units,
they typically don't have the suction of 110v units. But hair off a
tile
floor (I presume it's tile or some hard surface) is an easy pickup.
Not
a
lot of suction required. I'm thinking that battery technology has
improved greatly since I owned one of those things. For your specific
use, I think I'd go with the convenience of a nearby wall-mounted
cordless
rechargeable unit. No messing with cords and potential electrocution
hazards, and no bothersome belts to worry about going up in smoke.


I've had several of those Dustbuster things. I was given one as a gift
last
Spring - one of the "improved" Black & Decker things. As with all the
previous ones, the battery died an early death. I won't own them any
more.


They last much longer if you just turn them on and let them run down to
nothing once in a while. We've had one for about five years now that
works
quite well. It's a Eureka, 'the BOSS'.
--
'Til next time,

John H


It does that all by itself, in about 15 seconds. :)


Well, that's 'cause you didn't treat the battery right!
I also leave phones off their cradles and let them run down every so
often,
and cameras, and anything else rechargeable I can think of. I'm sure some
battery experts will tell me I'm foolish, but I'm getting old and senile
and can do what I want.
--


I think you will find that occasional deep discharging is (was) recommended
for NiCad type batteries. The newer lithium types used in laptops and cell
phones do not have the same characteristics and are not affected by being
fully charged all of the time.



John Gaquin April 22nd 06 06:24 PM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.



Craftsman 2 gal. wet/dry, with an extra length of (1-1/2"?) hose. Small
enough to store, but a "real" vacuum that'll git 'er done. about $30. Very
pleased.



[email protected] April 23rd 06 04:39 AM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

Doug Kanter wrote:
Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.


Get a small wet/dry shop vac. You will want high HP for a lot of
suction, but see if you can find one that has a small "gallon" rating
to facilitate stowage. If you have to do any sanding, you can run a
hose to the shop vac and keep the marina manager happy. We have tried a
series of toy vacuums over the years with less than spectacular
results. Nothing works as well as a small shop vac. You can get
fittings for carpets, etc, of course.


Doug Kanter April 23rd 06 11:49 AM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.


Get a small wet/dry shop vac. You will want high HP for a lot of
suction, but see if you can find one that has a small "gallon" rating
to facilitate stowage. If you have to do any sanding, you can run a
hose to the shop vac and keep the marina manager happy. We have tried a
series of toy vacuums over the years with less than spectacular
results. Nothing works as well as a small shop vac. You can get
fittings for carpets, etc, of course.


I already have a small shop vac. This has to fit in the towel closet.



[email protected] April 24th 06 03:42 AM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.


Get a small wet/dry shop vac. You will want high HP for a lot of
suction, but see if you can find one that has a small "gallon" rating
to facilitate stowage. If you have to do any sanding, you can run a
hose to the shop vac and keep the marina manager happy. We have tried a
series of toy vacuums over the years with less than spectacular
results. Nothing works as well as a small shop vac. You can get
fittings for carpets, etc, of course.


I already have a small shop vac. This has to fit in the towel closet.


Dumb question: Why do you need two AC powered vacuums aboard your boat?


Doug Kanter April 24th 06 03:48 AM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy
with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.

Get a small wet/dry shop vac. You will want high HP for a lot of
suction, but see if you can find one that has a small "gallon" rating
to facilitate stowage. If you have to do any sanding, you can run a
hose to the shop vac and keep the marina manager happy. We have tried a
series of toy vacuums over the years with less than spectacular
results. Nothing works as well as a small shop vac. You can get
fittings for carpets, etc, of course.


I already have a small shop vac. This has to fit in the towel closet.


Dumb question: Why do you need two AC powered vacuums aboard your boat?


It's for the house, not the boat.



RCE April 24th 06 04:01 AM

Small AC Powered Vacuum?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:
Anyone own a very small AC powered vacuum cleaner that you're happy
with?
Or, one that you hate? That's useful information, too.

Get a small wet/dry shop vac. You will want high HP for a lot of
suction, but see if you can find one that has a small "gallon" rating
to facilitate stowage. If you have to do any sanding, you can run a
hose to the shop vac and keep the marina manager happy. We have tried a
series of toy vacuums over the years with less than spectacular
results. Nothing works as well as a small shop vac. You can get
fittings for carpets, etc, of course.


I already have a small shop vac. This has to fit in the towel closet.


Dumb question: Why do you need two AC powered vacuums aboard your boat?


I think he is saying that although he already owns a small shop vac, it is
too big for storage on his boat.
He's looking for a smaller alternative.

I have a small "Dirt Devil" vacuum that I keep on the boat. The handle
retracts into the plastic vacuum housing making it compact for storage. It
has a powered brush head, so it's effective in cleaning (boat is carpeted
inside), yet is only about half the size of the smallest shop vacs when the
handle is retracted into the housing. Probably something like 18" H by 9" W
by 7" deep. I think I got it at Sears a couple of years ago.

RCE




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