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[email protected] April 18th 06 03:29 PM

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I am new to power boats and trailering in general but just bought new
EZLoader trailer for my 20' Tolman skiff I am building. The ad for the
trailer said it was for 18'-20' boats. By using the maximum
adjustments on the trailer, I will be able to get it so the transom is
about 10" aft of the end of the trailer (end of the bunks). Is this
too much over the end? I might be able to extend the bunks so they
extend aft of the end of the trailer by 4" and I think I can move the
wheel/axle assembly aft 4". The total weight of the motor(s) will be
about 400 lbs on the transom. Is thsi trailer too small?
Unfortunately, I bought the trailer from a dealer in Tampa and had to
drive from Tallahassee to there and back to get it (a 4.5 hour drive).


Floyd April 18th 06 04:14 PM

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To avoid warping the bottom of the hull, the transom should be supported on
the bunks so as to spread the load accross the rear of the hull. Sounds
like they sold you a trailer for an 18' boat. Get the model # and look up
the specs on the EZloader site. I assume you have moved the bow stop/winch
post up forward to accomodate the maximum size boat?



[email protected] April 18th 06 04:22 PM

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I looked at their site and they say it is for 18-20'.


Stanley Barthfarkle April 18th 06 06:41 PM

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wrote in message
ups.com...
I am new to power boats and trailering in general but just bought new
EZLoader trailer for my 20' Tolman skiff I am building. The ad for the
trailer said it was for 18'-20' boats. By using the maximum
adjustments on the trailer, I will be able to get it so the transom is
about 10" aft of the end of the trailer (end of the bunks). Is this
too much over the end? I might be able to extend the bunks so they
extend aft of the end of the trailer by 4" and I think I can move the
wheel/axle assembly aft 4". The total weight of the motor(s) will be
about 400 lbs on the transom. Is thsi trailer too small?
Unfortunately, I bought the trailer from a dealer in Tampa and had to
drive from Tallahassee to there and back to get it (a 4.5 hour drive).




On my EZ Loader, the (thing on the front where the bow snugs and the winch
attaches) can be unbolted and moved forward or backward to accomodate
different length boats.



Don White April 18th 06 07:00 PM

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Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

I am new to power boats and trailering in general but just bought new
EZLoader trailer for my 20' Tolman skiff I am building. The ad for the
trailer said it was for 18'-20' boats. By using the maximum
adjustments on the trailer, I will be able to get it so the transom is
about 10" aft of the end of the trailer (end of the bunks). Is this
too much over the end? I might be able to extend the bunks so they
extend aft of the end of the trailer by 4" and I think I can move the
wheel/axle assembly aft 4". The total weight of the motor(s) will be
about 400 lbs on the transom. Is thsi trailer too small?
Unfortunately, I bought the trailer from a dealer in Tampa and had to
drive from Tallahassee to there and back to get it (a 4.5 hour drive).





On my EZ Loader, the (thing on the front where the bow snugs and the winch
attaches) can be unbolted and moved forward or backward to accomodate
different length boats.


Just be careful not to move the 'winch stand' so far forward that the
bow pulpit comes into contact with the tow vehicle while turning.

Don White April 18th 06 08:55 PM

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Gene Kearns wrote:


For a properly sized trailer and tow vehicle, you need about 10% of
the towed weight on the tongue of the trailer.. Chose the length of
trailer accordingly. Just because the boat "fits" doesn't mean that it
will be safe to tow.....



You can adjust this by moving axle forward or back.
Some companies even advise a low of 7%.

Don White April 19th 06 12:00 AM

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:55:55 GMT, Don White
wrote:


Gene Kearns wrote:


For a properly sized trailer and tow vehicle, you need about 10% of
the towed weight on the tongue of the trailer.. Chose the length of
trailer accordingly. Just because the boat "fits" doesn't mean that it
will be safe to tow.....



You can adjust this by moving axle forward or back.



It would be the rare trailer that allowed this without re-drilling
holes for spring hanger mounting bolts.


Some companies even advise a low of 7%.



"I've never seen this! I have, however, seen figures over 15% suggested
for travel trailer."


** See ShoreLand'r site Step 3 for trailer setup.
http://www.shorelandr.com/pages/forum/f_trstep3.html

JohnH April 20th 06 07:17 PM

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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:27:05 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:00:47 GMT, Don White
wrote:



Some companies even advise a low of 7%.


"I've never seen this! I have, however, seen figures over 15% suggested
for travel trailer."


** See ShoreLand'r site Step 3 for trailer setup.
http://www.shorelandr.com/pages/forum/f_trstep3.html


That is a pretty neat set-up, but I think most trailers have hard
mounted spring positions and one ends up screwing around moving the
boat (and/or gear) back and forth rather than the axles.... which is a
lot better solution.

I suspect that the lowball figure for tongue weight is to justify
using a car as opposed to an SUV or truck. Maybe the manufacturer
knows better, but I really think, from experience, that 7% is
marginal, at best.


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Gene, from the LoadRite site:

"Measure the tongue weight of the loaded trailer by using a lever and a
bathroom scale or other suitable device. The tongue weight should be
between 5% and 7% of the GVWR (GVWR=weight of boat, fuel, and trailer). The
tongue weight can be adjusted by either moving the axles on the trailer, or
by repositioning the boat. The boat can be repositioned by moving the winch
stand."

This is how I adjusted my tongue weight. Don't have any problems pulling
the trailer. My GVWR is right close to 6000 lbs, so my tongue weight is now
at about 420.
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'Til next time,

John H

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JohnH April 20th 06 07:17 PM

New trailer
 
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:27:05 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:00:47 GMT, Don White
wrote:



Some companies even advise a low of 7%.


"I've never seen this! I have, however, seen figures over 15% suggested
for travel trailer."


** See ShoreLand'r site Step 3 for trailer setup.
http://www.shorelandr.com/pages/forum/f_trstep3.html


That is a pretty neat set-up, but I think most trailers have hard
mounted spring positions and one ends up screwing around moving the
boat (and/or gear) back and forth rather than the axles.... which is a
lot better solution.

I suspect that the lowball figure for tongue weight is to justify
using a car as opposed to an SUV or truck. Maybe the manufacturer
knows better, but I really think, from experience, that 7% is
marginal, at best.


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Whoops, here's the site:

http://www.loadrite.com/Support/Main...t_Trailers/76/

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John H

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JohnH April 20th 06 07:58 PM

Ping: J Herring
 
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:19:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


Maybe I missed your answer...are you moving down to the more affordable
marina?


Not this year. SWMBO wants to leave it in a marina with a swimming pool.
Probably next year as I'm getting fed up with the price increases and the
rip-offs the place is generating. The service hasn't improved as the price
has gone up. I think they're trying to make their waiting list smaller.

Where are you keeping yours now?
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John H

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