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Dewinterizing - help!
My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a
'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
Dewinterizing - help!
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:11:47 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** Clean oil and filter? Check belts? Check water intake pipes and exhausts for leaks? Yup. Changed oil and filter just before winterizing last fall. Belt is new, but will check tension. Is there anything special I must do before cranking the engine, given it's been fogged and anti-freezed? -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:24:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:11:47 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** Clean oil and filter? Check belts? Check water intake pipes and exhausts for leaks? Yup. Changed oil and filter just before winterizing last fall. Belt is new, but will check tension. Is there anything special I must do before cranking the engine, given it's been fogged and anti-freezed? -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** If the engine won't start right away, you might have to remove and clean off the plugs. But I fogged my gas tractor over the winter, and it started right up without pulling and cleaning the two plugs. OK. Thanks much. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:24:33 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:11:47 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** Clean oil and filter? Check belts? Check water intake pipes and exhausts for leaks? Yup. Changed oil and filter just before winterizing last fall. Belt is new, but will check tension. Is there anything special I must do before cranking the engine, given it's been fogged and anti-freezed? -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** You moving that boat down to the cheap part of town? Not this year. May do so next year. I bowed to the wishes of SWMBO. Where are you keeping yours now? -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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JohnH wrote:
My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** JohnH, Sounds like one hell of a deal for the dealer. You should not flush the antifreeze out of your engine, unless it is biodegrable. If it is the "normal" antifreeze it needs to be recyled. For the sake of the Ches. Bay, you want to verify this. I would never pay for the services you have listed, because I want to do that myself. It gives me something to do and I trust my skills in "checking" things out better than I trust theirs. |
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JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:11:47 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** Clean oil and filter? Check belts? Check water intake pipes and exhausts for leaks? Yup. Changed oil and filter just before winterizing last fall. Belt is new, but will check tension. Is there anything special I must do before cranking the engine, given it's been fogged and anti-freezed? -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** It will smoke like hell, since you have fogged it, but I have never had any problems with the engine not kicking over in 5 secs. I only drain my engine, and don't use antifreeze, so make sure they used the green friendly variety. |
Dewinterizing - help!
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:16:31 -0400, Reggie Smithers
wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** JohnH, Sounds like one hell of a deal for the dealer. You should not flush the antifreeze out of your engine, unless it is biodegrable. If it is the "normal" antifreeze it needs to be recyled. For the sake of the Ches. Bay, you want to verify this. I would never pay for the services you have listed, because I want to do that myself. It gives me something to do and I trust my skills in "checking" things out better than I trust theirs. Yeah, that's what I told the manager. I couldn't believe they were asking for $120 to throw some switches and look at things and then present me with a list of things needing 'doing'. The anti-freeze in the boat is safe for the environment, so that's not a worry. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:18:14 -0400, Reggie Smithers
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:11:47 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** Clean oil and filter? Check belts? Check water intake pipes and exhausts for leaks? Yup. Changed oil and filter just before winterizing last fall. Belt is new, but will check tension. Is there anything special I must do before cranking the engine, given it's been fogged and anti-freezed? -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** It will smoke like hell, since you have fogged it, but I have never had any problems with the engine not kicking over in 5 secs. I only drain my engine, and don't use antifreeze, so make sure they used the green friendly variety. I'll let you know tomorrow what happens! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
Dewinterizing - help!
"JohnH" wrote in message ... My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H my marina has mandated this service to be mandatory.. its $90 - kinda sucks, but you cant do anything since there are wating lists to get in anywhere else.. |
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"Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H my marina has mandated this service to be mandatory.. its $90 - kinda sucks, but you cant do anything since there are wating lists to get in anywhere else.. That sure does suck. Even a blindfolded monkey can do those simple things. |
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message ... "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H my marina has mandated this service to be mandatory.. its $90 - kinda sucks, but you cant do anything since there are wating lists to get in anywhere else.. That sure does suck. Even a blindfolded monkey can do those simple things. Pay the 90 bucks and support your marina. Running a full service marina has to be tough. In order to respond to patrons' boat problems during the season in a timely manner the marina owner has to adequately staff with qualified service people. When things are slow, that overhead continues. Personally, I think it's a good idea to utilize their services from time to time even if you could do it yourself, because someday you may need their services for something that you can't. RCE |
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"RCE" wrote in message ... " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message ... "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H my marina has mandated this service to be mandatory.. its $90 - kinda sucks, but you cant do anything since there are wating lists to get in anywhere else.. That sure does suck. Even a blindfolded monkey can do those simple things. Pay the 90 bucks and support your marina. Running a full service marina has to be tough. In order to respond to patrons' boat problems during the season in a timely manner the marina owner has to adequately staff with qualified service people. When things are slow, that overhead continues. I agree that operating a marina has to be tough. So is operating a restaurant, bar, retail store or just about any other business. Unless there is a valid reason otherwise, offer the pre-launch service but do not put a gun to the head of the customers mandating the service. Personally, I think it's a good idea to utilize their services from time to time even if you could do it yourself, because someday you may need their services for something that you can't. RCE A good marina will provide service for you even if you have never utilized any of their optional services in the past.....they would be silly not to. Remember that some folks like to tinker on their boats as they enjoy doing so. Others do it to save money. Why penalize these folks with a ridiculous prelaunch service that really most any boater can do themselves? |
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message . .. "RCE" wrote in message ... " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message ... "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H my marina has mandated this service to be mandatory.. its $90 - kinda sucks, but you cant do anything since there are wating lists to get in anywhere else.. That sure does suck. Even a blindfolded monkey can do those simple things. Pay the 90 bucks and support your marina. Running a full service marina has to be tough. In order to respond to patrons' boat problems during the season in a timely manner the marina owner has to adequately staff with qualified service people. When things are slow, that overhead continues. I agree that operating a marina has to be tough. So is operating a restaurant, bar, retail store or just about any other business. Unless there is a valid reason otherwise, offer the pre-launch service but do not put a gun to the head of the customers mandating the service. Personally, I think it's a good idea to utilize their services from time to time even if you could do it yourself, because someday you may need their services for something that you can't. RCE A good marina will provide service for you even if you have never utilized any of their optional services in the past.....they would be silly not to. You missed my point. Sure, they'll provide it .... it they have it to provide. Remember that some folks like to tinker on their boats as they enjoy doing so. Others do it to save money. Why penalize these folks with a ridiculous prelaunch service that really most any boater can do themselves? I am not saying you can't or shouldn't putter on your boat. I am just saying that if you like have the resources available of a full service marina, you should use them from time to time, otherwise they won't be there. 90 bucks? You'll blow that in one afternoon of cruising. RCE |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:31:06 -0400, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote: A good marina will provide service for you even if you have never utilized any of their optional services in the past.....they would be silly not to. That's true, but the difference is if I call with a problem, or like what happened on my previous Contender (major gouge by some transient nimrod), it is taken care of immediately. I have a long term relationship with these guys and they are very attentive to their clients who utilize their services. I have my boat on a regular haul basis once a month - bottom wash, hull wash, back in water. And if you want to do something yourself, half the time they will just jump in and help - no charge. It's a win-win situation. Some guy off the street might not get that kind of immediate service. Even though I do most of the work on my boat myself, I have never been turned down in the past for timely service when it was something I could not do or needed advice on. Never. I have also had excellent relationships with the owners and employees of marinas I have docked at in the past. |
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message ... "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:31:06 -0400, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote: A good marina will provide service for you even if you have never utilized any of their optional services in the past.....they would be silly not to. That's true, but the difference is if I call with a problem, or like what happened on my previous Contender (major gouge by some transient nimrod), it is taken care of immediately. I have a long term relationship with these guys and they are very attentive to their clients who utilize their services. I have my boat on a regular haul basis once a month - bottom wash, hull wash, back in water. And if you want to do something yourself, half the time they will just jump in and help - no charge. It's a win-win situation. Some guy off the street might not get that kind of immediate service. Even though I do most of the work on my boat myself, I have never been turned down in the past for timely service when it was something I could not do or needed advice on. Never. I have also had excellent relationships with the owners and employees of marinas I have docked at in the past. Our marina has several hundred boats. Maybe a thousand. Maybe more. I don't know for sure. There are about 14 full time techs that work for the marina. The number includes a mixture of certified diesel, gas and outboard engine techs, plus others that refurbish and repair fiberglass and wood. Then, there are others that work on boat systems in general, water systems, heads, etc. In order to maintain this level of service, they all need to be generating revenue for the marina otherwise their positions can not be justified. So, by utilizing some of the marina services during slow repair periods, you help the marina maintain a level of capability and response during the more hectic times. I've gotten to know several of the techs at the marina we are at. They try to be responsive to everybody's service requests, but when it gets busy during the summer months it's well established that customers that utilize their services for some of the basics during the slow periods get priority in terms of response time. In our case, with two boats at the marina, once of which stayed in the water all winter, it is also comforting to know that the boats are being looked after in our absence, which they do. They do an excellent job. On this subject, but away from the main discussion, Mrs.E. was on a mission during the winter months to refurbish her little GB and the marina staff did the work. The results are amazing. The boat looks like a model with all the exterior teak and brightwork redone, and the rest of the boat cleaned, detailed and waxed. A new full enclosure for the flybridge plus a new refrigerator and stove top were added as well. In addition, half of the below water level seacocks and fittings were replaced (the other half will be done next winter). They really did a super job. All that remains is waiting for the interior seat cushions to come back from being reupholstered, and for the new mattresses to arrive for the forward and aft beds. Sanding and varnish of the interior woodwork be next and we will probably do most of that ourselves. If I get down there sometime in the next few days I'll try to remember to bring the camera and take a few pics. RCE |
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:06:41 -0400, "RCE" wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message ... "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H my marina has mandated this service to be mandatory.. its $90 - kinda sucks, but you cant do anything since there are wating lists to get in anywhere else.. That sure does suck. Even a blindfolded monkey can do those simple things. Pay the 90 bucks and support your marina. Running a full service marina has to be tough. In order to respond to patrons' boat problems during the season in a timely manner the marina owner has to adequately staff with qualified service people. When things are slow, that overhead continues. Personally, I think it's a good idea to utilize their services from time to time even if you could do it yourself, because someday you may need their services for something that you can't. RCE I've no problem using their services, when they are actually *doing* something. I would easily pay for the three hours labor for a 'spring tune up', which I've done. But, they don't offer that anymore. Now it's $120 for a dewinterization 'check up'. If the engine won't start, they don't fix the problem, they just mark the checklist. Then, the customer must call and schedule the repairs to the engine. As an earlier poster said, the marina has a waiting list, so they're not being hurt much. I've never seen them have a slack time! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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"RCE" wrote in message ... " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message ... "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H my marina has mandated this service to be mandatory.. its $90 - kinda sucks, but you cant do anything since there are wating lists to get in anywhere else.. That sure does suck. Even a blindfolded monkey can do those simple things. Pay the 90 bucks and support your marina. Running a full service marina has to be tough. In order to respond to patrons' boat problems during the season in a timely manner the marina owner has to adequately staff with qualified service people. When things are slow, that overhead continues. Personally, I think it's a good idea to utilize their services from time to time even if you could do it yourself, because someday you may need their services for something that you can't. RCE I dont mind supporting them, but something doesn't add up. I called today asking about why this is mandated. They said its some regulation. What about the boats that launch in ramps daily? Makes no sense. Gonna check it out. I am not complaining about the $90 as much as the fact that it will now take an extra 2 weeks to get the in water - my last name starts with S and they are doing these checkups by alphabetical order with 5 mechanics... They have like 300 boats. |
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"Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "RCE" wrote in message ... " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message ... "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H my marina has mandated this service to be mandatory.. its $90 - kinda sucks, but you cant do anything since there are wating lists to get in anywhere else.. That sure does suck. Even a blindfolded monkey can do those simple things. Pay the 90 bucks and support your marina. Running a full service marina has to be tough. In order to respond to patrons' boat problems during the season in a timely manner the marina owner has to adequately staff with qualified service people. When things are slow, that overhead continues. Personally, I think it's a good idea to utilize their services from time to time even if you could do it yourself, because someday you may need their services for something that you can't. RCE I dont mind supporting them, but something doesn't add up. I called today asking about why this is mandated. They said its some regulation. What about the boats that launch in ramps daily? Makes no sense. Gonna check it out. I am not complaining about the $90 as much as the fact that it will now take an extra 2 weeks to get the in water - my last name starts with S and they are doing these checkups by alphabetical order with 5 mechanics... They have like 300 boats. See? If they could afford to hire 10 mechanics, you would only have to wait a week! :-) RCE |
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JohnH wrote:
My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** I use to just put the muffs on and go. The only thing I have had to deal with in the past was finding a drain cock on the block had not been reinstalled after winterization. So I would run it on the muffs and look for leaks on the engine and plumbing. Of course check oil etc. So of the winterizations I have seen they will intentinally leave some plumbing disconnected, hoses etc. Thus creating a "need" to return for dewinterization. I guess some need to check for that ? Capt Jack R.. |
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:44:50 GMT, Jack Redington
wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** I use to just put the muffs on and go. The only thing I have had to deal with in the past was finding a drain cock on the block had not been reinstalled after winterization. So I would run it on the muffs and look for leaks on the engine and plumbing. Of course check oil etc. So of the winterizations I have seen they will intentinally leave some plumbing disconnected, hoses etc. Thus creating a "need" to return for dewinterization. I guess some need to check for that ? Capt Jack R.. Thanks. I'll check it out as you suggested. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:44:50 GMT, Jack Redington wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** I use to just put the muffs on and go. The only thing I have had to deal with in the past was finding a drain cock on the block had not been reinstalled after winterization. So I would run it on the muffs and look for leaks on the engine and plumbing. Of course check oil etc. So of the winterizations I have seen they will intentinally leave some plumbing disconnected, hoses etc. Thus creating a "need" to return for dewinterization. I guess some need to check for that ? Capt Jack R.. Thanks. I'll check it out as you suggested. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** JohnH, Even if everything is connected, I always run the engine for 5 min. then check the engine compartment for leaks before I leave the dock. I then check the engine compartment in 15 min of running at cruise. Once I caught a problem with a hose because I saw the bilge pump light come on, which very rarely happened on my boat. |
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:59:06 -0400, Reggie Smithers
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:44:50 GMT, Jack Redington wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** I use to just put the muffs on and go. The only thing I have had to deal with in the past was finding a drain cock on the block had not been reinstalled after winterization. So I would run it on the muffs and look for leaks on the engine and plumbing. Of course check oil etc. So of the winterizations I have seen they will intentinally leave some plumbing disconnected, hoses etc. Thus creating a "need" to return for dewinterization. I guess some need to check for that ? Capt Jack R.. Thanks. I'll check it out as you suggested. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** JohnH, Even if everything is connected, I always run the engine for 5 min. then check the engine compartment for leaks before I leave the dock. I then check the engine compartment in 15 min of running at cruise. Once I caught a problem with a hose because I saw the bilge pump light come on, which very rarely happened on my boat. Thanks. Will do. I was going to do this yesterday, but I forgot it was Easter and the kids were coming for dinner and I had a turkey to fix. Maybe later this week. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:59:06 -0400, Reggie Smithers wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:44:50 GMT, Jack Redington wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** I use to just put the muffs on and go. The only thing I have had to deal with in the past was finding a drain cock on the block had not been reinstalled after winterization. So I would run it on the muffs and look for leaks on the engine and plumbing. Of course check oil etc. So of the winterizations I have seen they will intentinally leave some plumbing disconnected, hoses etc. Thus creating a "need" to return for dewinterization. I guess some need to check for that ? Capt Jack R.. Thanks. I'll check it out as you suggested. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** JohnH, Even if everything is connected, I always run the engine for 5 min. then check the engine compartment for leaks before I leave the dock. I then check the engine compartment in 15 min of running at cruise. Once I caught a problem with a hose because I saw the bilge pump light come on, which very rarely happened on my boat. Thanks. Will do. I was going to do this yesterday, but I forgot it was Easter and the kids were coming for dinner and I had a turkey to fix. Maybe later this week. -- 'Til next time, John H I smoked a ham for Easter, made a basting sauce out of pineapple juice, garlic, cloves and cinnamon. Smoked it for six hours at around 210-220, then made a glaze out of crushed pineapple, cloves, brown sugar and ground coriander, putting it on for the last two hours. Everyone said it was the best they'd had. |
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On 18 Apr 2006 09:37:31 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:59:06 -0400, Reggie Smithers wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:44:50 GMT, Jack Redington wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** I use to just put the muffs on and go. The only thing I have had to deal with in the past was finding a drain cock on the block had not been reinstalled after winterization. So I would run it on the muffs and look for leaks on the engine and plumbing. Of course check oil etc. So of the winterizations I have seen they will intentinally leave some plumbing disconnected, hoses etc. Thus creating a "need" to return for dewinterization. I guess some need to check for that ? Capt Jack R.. Thanks. I'll check it out as you suggested. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** JohnH, Even if everything is connected, I always run the engine for 5 min. then check the engine compartment for leaks before I leave the dock. I then check the engine compartment in 15 min of running at cruise. Once I caught a problem with a hose because I saw the bilge pump light come on, which very rarely happened on my boat. Thanks. Will do. I was going to do this yesterday, but I forgot it was Easter and the kids were coming for dinner and I had a turkey to fix. Maybe later this week. -- 'Til next time, John H I smoked a ham for Easter, made a basting sauce out of pineapple juice, garlic, cloves and cinnamon. Smoked it for six hours at around 210-220, then made a glaze out of crushed pineapple, cloves, brown sugar and ground coriander, putting it on for the last two hours. Everyone said it was the best they'd had. Sounds good! Did you start with a fresh ham or a fully cooked ham? I've never tried putting a ham on the smoker, maybe I'll give it a shot. I'm not much of a ham guy. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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JohnH wrote: On 18 Apr 2006 09:37:31 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:59:06 -0400, Reggie Smithers wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:44:50 GMT, Jack Redington wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** I use to just put the muffs on and go. The only thing I have had to deal with in the past was finding a drain cock on the block had not been reinstalled after winterization. So I would run it on the muffs and look for leaks on the engine and plumbing. Of course check oil etc. So of the winterizations I have seen they will intentinally leave some plumbing disconnected, hoses etc. Thus creating a "need" to return for dewinterization. I guess some need to check for that ? Capt Jack R.. Thanks. I'll check it out as you suggested. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** JohnH, Even if everything is connected, I always run the engine for 5 min. then check the engine compartment for leaks before I leave the dock. I then check the engine compartment in 15 min of running at cruise. Once I caught a problem with a hose because I saw the bilge pump light come on, which very rarely happened on my boat. Thanks. Will do. I was going to do this yesterday, but I forgot it was Easter and the kids were coming for dinner and I had a turkey to fix. Maybe later this week. -- 'Til next time, John H I smoked a ham for Easter, made a basting sauce out of pineapple juice, garlic, cloves and cinnamon. Smoked it for six hours at around 210-220, then made a glaze out of crushed pineapple, cloves, brown sugar and ground coriander, putting it on for the last two hours. Everyone said it was the best they'd had. Sounds good! Did you start with a fresh ham or a fully cooked ham? I've never tried putting a ham on the smoker, maybe I'll give it a shot. I'm not much of a ham guy. -- 'Til next time, Believe it or not, you can use either, although I prefer fresh. Another one of my favorites that people can't believe until they try it, is smoked corned beef! If you have a desire, I'll let you know the recipe. |
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On 20 Apr 2006 11:50:29 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:
JohnH wrote: On 18 Apr 2006 09:37:31 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:59:06 -0400, Reggie Smithers wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:44:50 GMT, Jack Redington wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** I use to just put the muffs on and go. The only thing I have had to deal with in the past was finding a drain cock on the block had not been reinstalled after winterization. So I would run it on the muffs and look for leaks on the engine and plumbing. Of course check oil etc. So of the winterizations I have seen they will intentinally leave some plumbing disconnected, hoses etc. Thus creating a "need" to return for dewinterization. I guess some need to check for that ? Capt Jack R.. Thanks. I'll check it out as you suggested. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** JohnH, Even if everything is connected, I always run the engine for 5 min. then check the engine compartment for leaks before I leave the dock. I then check the engine compartment in 15 min of running at cruise. Once I caught a problem with a hose because I saw the bilge pump light come on, which very rarely happened on my boat. Thanks. Will do. I was going to do this yesterday, but I forgot it was Easter and the kids were coming for dinner and I had a turkey to fix. Maybe later this week. -- 'Til next time, John H I smoked a ham for Easter, made a basting sauce out of pineapple juice, garlic, cloves and cinnamon. Smoked it for six hours at around 210-220, then made a glaze out of crushed pineapple, cloves, brown sugar and ground coriander, putting it on for the last two hours. Everyone said it was the best they'd had. Sounds good! Did you start with a fresh ham or a fully cooked ham? I've never tried putting a ham on the smoker, maybe I'll give it a shot. I'm not much of a ham guy. -- 'Til next time, Believe it or not, you can use either, although I prefer fresh. Another one of my favorites that people can't believe until they try it, is smoked corned beef! If you have a desire, I'll let you know the recipe. I usually simmer corned beef, although I like it roasted also. Never tried it smoked. Lay it on me! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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JohnH wrote: On 20 Apr 2006 11:50:29 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On 18 Apr 2006 09:37:31 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:59:06 -0400, Reggie Smithers wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:44:50 GMT, Jack Redington wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** I use to just put the muffs on and go. The only thing I have had to deal with in the past was finding a drain cock on the block had not been reinstalled after winterization. So I would run it on the muffs and look for leaks on the engine and plumbing. Of course check oil etc. So of the winterizations I have seen they will intentinally leave some plumbing disconnected, hoses etc. Thus creating a "need" to return for dewinterization. I guess some need to check for that ? Capt Jack R.. Thanks. I'll check it out as you suggested. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** JohnH, Even if everything is connected, I always run the engine for 5 min. then check the engine compartment for leaks before I leave the dock. I then check the engine compartment in 15 min of running at cruise. Once I caught a problem with a hose because I saw the bilge pump light come on, which very rarely happened on my boat. Thanks. Will do. I was going to do this yesterday, but I forgot it was Easter and the kids were coming for dinner and I had a turkey to fix. Maybe later this week. -- 'Til next time, John H I smoked a ham for Easter, made a basting sauce out of pineapple juice, garlic, cloves and cinnamon. Smoked it for six hours at around 210-220, then made a glaze out of crushed pineapple, cloves, brown sugar and ground coriander, putting it on for the last two hours. Everyone said it was the best they'd had. Sounds good! Did you start with a fresh ham or a fully cooked ham? I've never tried putting a ham on the smoker, maybe I'll give it a shot. I'm not much of a ham guy. -- 'Til next time, Believe it or not, you can use either, although I prefer fresh. Another one of my favorites that people can't believe until they try it, is smoked corned beef! If you have a desire, I'll let you know the recipe. I usually simmer corned beef, although I like it roasted also. Never tried it smoked. Lay it on me! -- 'Til next time, John H You must simmer it first, or it'll be too salty. Save the broth for the cabbage, though! Okay, soak it for an hour in water, drain, refill. simmer it in water with a couple of bay leaves for two hours, let it cool, rinse it off. If you have a favorite bbq rub, mix some ground coriander seed with it, and don't be shy about it. If not, a simple rub of brown sugar, some lemon pepper, salt, onion power, garlic powder, paprika, chili powder, and a good dose of ground corianer seed. Rub the corned beef with it. Put it on slow smoker, 200 to 225. Use oak to smoke. Leave it about 4 hours, three if it's falling apart. During this time wet the meat with apple juice. I use a spray bottle. I will guarantee some fine eating when it comes off. Almost fork tender, juicy, and tastes a lot like pastrami. |
Dewinterizing - help!
On 21 Apr 2006 11:18:19 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:
JohnH wrote: On 20 Apr 2006 11:50:29 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On 18 Apr 2006 09:37:31 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:59:06 -0400, Reggie Smithers wrote: JohnH wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:44:50 GMT, Jack Redington wrote: JohnH wrote: My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** I use to just put the muffs on and go. The only thing I have had to deal with in the past was finding a drain cock on the block had not been reinstalled after winterization. So I would run it on the muffs and look for leaks on the engine and plumbing. Of course check oil etc. So of the winterizations I have seen they will intentinally leave some plumbing disconnected, hoses etc. Thus creating a "need" to return for dewinterization. I guess some need to check for that ? Capt Jack R.. Thanks. I'll check it out as you suggested. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** JohnH, Even if everything is connected, I always run the engine for 5 min. then check the engine compartment for leaks before I leave the dock. I then check the engine compartment in 15 min of running at cruise. Once I caught a problem with a hose because I saw the bilge pump light come on, which very rarely happened on my boat. Thanks. Will do. I was going to do this yesterday, but I forgot it was Easter and the kids were coming for dinner and I had a turkey to fix. Maybe later this week. -- 'Til next time, John H I smoked a ham for Easter, made a basting sauce out of pineapple juice, garlic, cloves and cinnamon. Smoked it for six hours at around 210-220, then made a glaze out of crushed pineapple, cloves, brown sugar and ground coriander, putting it on for the last two hours. Everyone said it was the best they'd had. Sounds good! Did you start with a fresh ham or a fully cooked ham? I've never tried putting a ham on the smoker, maybe I'll give it a shot. I'm not much of a ham guy. -- 'Til next time, Believe it or not, you can use either, although I prefer fresh. Another one of my favorites that people can't believe until they try it, is smoked corned beef! If you have a desire, I'll let you know the recipe. I usually simmer corned beef, although I like it roasted also. Never tried it smoked. Lay it on me! -- 'Til next time, John H You must simmer it first, or it'll be too salty. Save the broth for the cabbage, though! Okay, soak it for an hour in water, drain, refill. simmer it in water with a couple of bay leaves for two hours, let it cool, rinse it off. If you have a favorite bbq rub, mix some ground coriander seed with it, and don't be shy about it. If not, a simple rub of brown sugar, some lemon pepper, salt, onion power, garlic powder, paprika, chili powder, and a good dose of ground corianer seed. Rub the corned beef with it. Put it on slow smoker, 200 to 225. Use oak to smoke. Leave it about 4 hours, three if it's falling apart. During this time wet the meat with apple juice. I use a spray bottle. I will guarantee some fine eating when it comes off. Almost fork tender, juicy, and tastes a lot like pastrami. Sounds good. Next time Safeway has the stuff on sale I'll load up. Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
Dewinterizing - help!
JohnH wrote:
snip Believe it or not, you can use either, although I prefer fresh. Another one of my favorites that people can't believe until they try it, is smoked corned beef! If you have a desire, I'll let you know the recipe. I usually simmer corned beef, although I like it roasted also. Never tried it smoked. Lay it on me! -- 'Til next time, John H You must simmer it first, or it'll be too salty. Save the broth for the cabbage, though! Okay, soak it for an hour in water, drain, refill. simmer it in water with a couple of bay leaves for two hours, let it cool, rinse it off. If you have a favorite bbq rub, mix some ground coriander seed with it, and don't be shy about it. If not, a simple rub of brown sugar, some lemon pepper, salt, onion power, garlic powder, paprika, chili powder, and a good dose of ground corianer seed. Rub the corned beef with it. Put it on slow smoker, 200 to 225. Use oak to smoke. Leave it about 4 hours, three if it's falling apart. During this time wet the meat with apple juice. I use a spray bottle. I will guarantee some fine eating when it comes off. Almost fork tender, juicy, and tastes a lot like pastrami. Sounds good. Next time Safeway has the stuff on sale I'll load up. Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H mmmmm boiled dinner...corned beef & cabbage Haven't had that in a long time...time to start pressuring the wife. |
Dewinterizing - help!
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:18:34 GMT, Don White wrote:
JohnH wrote: snip Believe it or not, you can use either, although I prefer fresh. Another one of my favorites that people can't believe until they try it, is smoked corned beef! If you have a desire, I'll let you know the recipe. I usually simmer corned beef, although I like it roasted also. Never tried it smoked. Lay it on me! -- 'Til next time, John H You must simmer it first, or it'll be too salty. Save the broth for the cabbage, though! Okay, soak it for an hour in water, drain, refill. simmer it in water with a couple of bay leaves for two hours, let it cool, rinse it off. If you have a favorite bbq rub, mix some ground coriander seed with it, and don't be shy about it. If not, a simple rub of brown sugar, some lemon pepper, salt, onion power, garlic powder, paprika, chili powder, and a good dose of ground corianer seed. Rub the corned beef with it. Put it on slow smoker, 200 to 225. Use oak to smoke. Leave it about 4 hours, three if it's falling apart. During this time wet the meat with apple juice. I use a spray bottle. I will guarantee some fine eating when it comes off. Almost fork tender, juicy, and tastes a lot like pastrami. Sounds good. Next time Safeway has the stuff on sale I'll load up. Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H mmmmm boiled dinner...corned beef & cabbage Haven't had that in a long time...time to start pressuring the wife. I absolutely love it, especially with a little horseradish sauce for the corned beef. However, my bowels seem to have a rough time with cabbage lately. It's best if I eat it a day before I'll be out on the water - alone! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
Dewinterizing - help!
JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:18:34 GMT, Don White wrote: JohnH wrote: snip Believe it or not, you can use either, although I prefer fresh. Another one of my favorites that people can't believe until they try it, is smoked corned beef! If you have a desire, I'll let you know the recipe. I usually simmer corned beef, although I like it roasted also. Never tried it smoked. Lay it on me! -- 'Til next time, John H You must simmer it first, or it'll be too salty. Save the broth for the cabbage, though! Okay, soak it for an hour in water, drain, refill. simmer it in water with a couple of bay leaves for two hours, let it cool, rinse it off. If you have a favorite bbq rub, mix some ground coriander seed with it, and don't be shy about it. If not, a simple rub of brown sugar, some lemon pepper, salt, onion power, garlic powder, paprika, chili powder, and a good dose of ground corianer seed. Rub the corned beef with it. Put it on slow smoker, 200 to 225. Use oak to smoke. Leave it about 4 hours, three if it's falling apart. During this time wet the meat with apple juice. I use a spray bottle. I will guarantee some fine eating when it comes off. Almost fork tender, juicy, and tastes a lot like pastrami. Sounds good. Next time Safeway has the stuff on sale I'll load up. Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H mmmmm boiled dinner...corned beef & cabbage Haven't had that in a long time...time to start pressuring the wife. I absolutely love it, especially with a little horseradish sauce for the corned beef. However, my bowels seem to have a rough time with cabbage lately. It's best if I eat it a day before I'll be out on the water - alone! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John, How do you make your horseradish sauce? I've got a simple recipe with two ingredients. Dan |
Dewinterizing - help!
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:36:07 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:18:34 GMT, Don White wrote: JohnH wrote: snip Believe it or not, you can use either, although I prefer fresh. Another one of my favorites that people can't believe until they try it, is smoked corned beef! If you have a desire, I'll let you know the recipe. I usually simmer corned beef, although I like it roasted also. Never tried it smoked. Lay it on me! -- 'Til next time, John H You must simmer it first, or it'll be too salty. Save the broth for the cabbage, though! Okay, soak it for an hour in water, drain, refill. simmer it in water with a couple of bay leaves for two hours, let it cool, rinse it off. If you have a favorite bbq rub, mix some ground coriander seed with it, and don't be shy about it. If not, a simple rub of brown sugar, some lemon pepper, salt, onion power, garlic powder, paprika, chili powder, and a good dose of ground corianer seed. Rub the corned beef with it. Put it on slow smoker, 200 to 225. Use oak to smoke. Leave it about 4 hours, three if it's falling apart. During this time wet the meat with apple juice. I use a spray bottle. I will guarantee some fine eating when it comes off. Almost fork tender, juicy, and tastes a lot like pastrami. Sounds good. Next time Safeway has the stuff on sale I'll load up. Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H mmmmm boiled dinner...corned beef & cabbage Haven't had that in a long time...time to start pressuring the wife. I absolutely love it, especially with a little horseradish sauce for the corned beef. However, my bowels seem to have a rough time with cabbage lately. It's best if I eat it a day before I'll be out on the water - alone! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John, How do you make your horseradish sauce? I've got a simple recipe with two ingredients. Dan I'll show you mine, if you show me yours! 2 cups fresh sour cream (Check the expiration date on the lid). 3 Tablespoons of freshly grated, washed horse-radish roots from your garden or a jar of prepared, white grated horse-radish from your local store. 1 teaspoon white granulated sugar 1/2 teaspoon plain or iodized salt Mix all the ingredients together in medium stainless steel mixing bowl. Cover and chill for 1 hour. This will allow the flavors to mingle together. Serve the horse-radish sauce at room temperature with your meal. Enjoy this very tasty sauce...! It only gets better with more horseradish! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
Dewinterizing - help!
JohnH wrote: On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:36:07 GMT, Dan Krueger wrote: JohnH wrote: On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:18:34 GMT, Don White wrote: JohnH wrote: snip Believe it or not, you can use either, although I prefer fresh. Another one of my favorites that people can't believe until they try it, is smoked corned beef! If you have a desire, I'll let you know the recipe. I usually simmer corned beef, although I like it roasted also. Never tried it smoked. Lay it on me! -- 'Til next time, John H You must simmer it first, or it'll be too salty. Save the broth for the cabbage, though! Okay, soak it for an hour in water, drain, refill. simmer it in water with a couple of bay leaves for two hours, let it cool, rinse it off. If you have a favorite bbq rub, mix some ground coriander seed with it, and don't be shy about it. If not, a simple rub of brown sugar, some lemon pepper, salt, onion power, garlic powder, paprika, chili powder, and a good dose of ground corianer seed. Rub the corned beef with it. Put it on slow smoker, 200 to 225. Use oak to smoke. Leave it about 4 hours, three if it's falling apart. During this time wet the meat with apple juice. I use a spray bottle. I will guarantee some fine eating when it comes off. Almost fork tender, juicy, and tastes a lot like pastrami. Sounds good. Next time Safeway has the stuff on sale I'll load up. Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H mmmmm boiled dinner...corned beef & cabbage Haven't had that in a long time...time to start pressuring the wife. I absolutely love it, especially with a little horseradish sauce for the corned beef. However, my bowels seem to have a rough time with cabbage lately. It's best if I eat it a day before I'll be out on the water - alone! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John, How do you make your horseradish sauce? I've got a simple recipe with two ingredients. Dan I'll show you mine, if you show me yours! 2 cups fresh sour cream (Check the expiration date on the lid). 3 Tablespoons of freshly grated, washed horse-radish roots from your garden or a jar of prepared, white grated horse-radish from your local store. 1 teaspoon white granulated sugar 1/2 teaspoon plain or iodized salt Mix all the ingredients together in medium stainless steel mixing bowl. Cover and chill for 1 hour. This will allow the flavors to mingle together. Serve the horse-radish sauce at room temperature with your meal. Enjoy this very tasty sauce...! It only gets better with more horseradish! -- 'Til next time, John H Mmmm!! I've got some horseradish growing in my backyard, I'm gonna dig up a root and make some today! Thanks. |
Dewinterizing - help!
Mmmm!! I've got some horseradish growing in my backyard, I'm gonna dig
up a root and make some today! Thanks. Tell us asslicker- what's growing in the basement this time of year? |
Dewinterizing - help!
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:49:03 GMT, "Jono" wrote:
Mmmm!! I've got some horseradish growing in my backyard, I'm gonna dig up a root and make some today! Thanks. Tell us asslicker- what's growing in the basement this time of year? Most of us have stopped the childish crap, Jono. Perhaps you've not noticed. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
Dewinterizing - help!
Jono wrote: Mmmm!! I've got some horseradish growing in my backyard, I'm gonna dig up a root and make some today! Thanks. Tell us asslicker- what's growing in the basement this time of year? What a childish simpleton you must be. Get away from mommy's computer before you get in trouble. |
Dewinterizing - help!
Don't for get the lower unit lub and if it is Merc. outdrive
should be pulled and the u/joints be lubed and aligment be checked "RCE" wrote in message ... "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "RCE" wrote in message ... " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message ... "Dan J.S." wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... My marina has a new 'special' this year. Three years ago, they had a 'spring tune up' special. They installed new plugs, rotor, cap, timed the engine, adjusted carb, checked belts, etc. for $195. I felt it was worth it, especially given the 'guarantee' for 90 days. This year the 'Dewinterization' special consists of no more than checking flluids, all the lights and switches and accessories, and engine running, for $120. Note that there is no 'fixing' of anything involved. The result of the special will be a list of items checked and faults, if any, found. Then arrangements must be made to get the faults corrected. What I'm wondering is: can I just hook up the muffs and start the engine to run the anti-freeze out of it? I'm planning to go up tomorrow and see if the damn thing will run. The batteries are charged, must be installed. Other than that, and checking to see that everything works, what 'special' things must be done to 'dewinterize'? Thanks! -- 'Til next time, John H my marina has mandated this service to be mandatory.. its $90 - kinda sucks, but you cant do anything since there are wating lists to get in anywhere else.. That sure does suck. Even a blindfolded monkey can do those simple things. Pay the 90 bucks and support your marina. Running a full service marina has to be tough. In order to respond to patrons' boat problems during the season in a timely manner the marina owner has to adequately staff with qualified service people. When things are slow, that overhead continues. Personally, I think it's a good idea to utilize their services from time to time even if you could do it yourself, because someday you may need their services for something that you can't. RCE I dont mind supporting them, but something doesn't add up. I called today asking about why this is mandated. They said its some regulation. What about the boats that launch in ramps daily? Makes no sense. Gonna check it out. I am not complaining about the $90 as much as the fact that it will now take an extra 2 weeks to get the in water - my last name starts with S and they are doing these checkups by alphabetical order with 5 mechanics... They have like 300 boats. See? If they could afford to hire 10 mechanics, you would only have to wait a week! :-) RCE ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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