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Some people might not use the tools the way they were intended.
Here are my two entries:

http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view....b-0013724ff5a7

http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view....b-0013724ff5a7





How is this for starters Jim?

http://tinyurl.com/owvba

Not very creative.



*Butt* definitely to the point. ;-)


It's cold and raining. This thing was fun to do. Why don'y you try
making one with an actual point?

I fail to see what your point is.



Agreed.

I liked the second commercial better than the first, but both were
entertaining. Did you send them to GM? Any response?
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'Til next time,

John H

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I doubt that Gm would like either one. They really should pay attention
to the fact that they are making the same mistakes they made in the
past.

And, we have all seen examples of fools who can't drive and talk at the
same time.



I don't think they are making the same mistakes they did in the 1970's.

They are offering fuel efficient cars yet offer the larger cars,
pickup's and SUV's for those who can afford them without worrying about
gas mileage. Choice is good. Let's not forget that.

Their quality has also improved dramatically. That is indisputable.

What is driving them into bankruptcy are the deals they made with the
unions when they were making money hand over fist in the 50's, 60's and
70's. Except for Ford and Chrysler they were the only game in town then
and making money......lots of it. It was only right that they share
those profits with the workers. It was also only right that the unions
accepted the offers. That was then..........this is now. Their
problem is they did not forecast what those promises/commitments would
end up costing in the 21st century when folks started to retire and
collect on not only the retirement pay but the free medical benefits.
They are now paying the piper.

Let's hope they do not renege on their promises to the folks who spent
their lives helping them make money. If you promise someone a
retirement check and to pay for their medical insurance, then for God's
sake make sure you make good on your promise.

I am generally not a pro union person (except for the skilled
construction trades), but these folks accepted what was offered to them
and it is time for GM to step to the plate and continue to deliver what
they promised.

Let's hope this does not turn into another Republic Steel/J&L Steel/LTV
Steel deal for these GM retirees.
GM isn't losing market share because of any deals they made with the
unions.


Where did I say otherwise?


They are losing market share because I (for one) am not ever going to
consider buying another GM product.

Marketshare? I thought we were talking about their solvency. Declining
sales alone will not put them into bankruptsy. What will are the deals
they made with the unions that I wrote about earlier, combined with a loss
of sales.

It's a contest, make your own commercial
 

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Some people might not use the tools the way they were intended.
Here are my two entries:

http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view....b-0013724ff5a7

http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view....b-0013724ff5a7





How is this for starters Jim?

http://tinyurl.com/owvba

Not very creative.



*Butt* definitely to the point. ;-)


It's cold and raining. This thing was fun to do. Why don'y you try
making one with an actual point?

I fail to see what your point is.



Agreed.

I liked the second commercial better than the first, but both were
entertaining. Did you send them to GM? Any response?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

I doubt that Gm would like either one. They really should pay attention
to the fact that they are making the same mistakes they made in the
past.

And, we have all seen examples of fools who can't drive and talk at the
same time.



I don't think they are making the same mistakes they did in the 1970's.

They are offering fuel efficient cars yet offer the larger cars,
pickup's and SUV's for those who can afford them without worrying about
gas mileage. Choice is good. Let's not forget that.

Their quality has also improved dramatically. That is indisputable.

What is driving them into bankruptcy are the deals they made with the
unions when they were making money hand over fist in the 50's, 60's and
70's. Except for Ford and Chrysler they were the only game in town then
and making money......lots of it. It was only right that they share
those profits with the workers. It was also only right that the unions
accepted the offers. That was then..........this is now. Their
problem is they did not forecast what those promises/commitments would
end up costing in the 21st century when folks started to retire and
collect on not only the retirement pay but the free medical benefits.
They are now paying the piper.

Let's hope they do not renege on their promises to the folks who spent
their lives helping them make money. If you promise someone a
retirement check and to pay for their medical insurance, then for God's
sake make sure you make good on your promise.

I am generally not a pro union person (except for the skilled
construction trades), but these folks accepted what was offered to them
and it is time for GM to step to the plate and continue to deliver what
they promised.

Let's hope this does not turn into another Republic Steel/J&L Steel/LTV
Steel deal for these GM retirees.

GM isn't losing market share because of any deals they made with the
unions.


Where did I say otherwise?



They are losing market share because I (for one) am not ever going to
consider buying another GM product.

Marketshare? I thought we were talking about their solvency. Declining
sales alone will not put them into bankruptsy. What will are the deals
they made with the unions that I wrote about earlier, combined with a loss
of sales.





Declining marketshare will put a company into bankruptcy if they have
excess capacity, and fail to restructure to be able to survive.

It's a contest, make your own commercial
 

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Some people might not use the tools the way they were intended.
Here are my two entries:

http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view....b-0013724ff5a7

http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view....b-0013724ff5a7





How is this for starters Jim?

http://tinyurl.com/owvba

Not very creative.



*Butt* definitely to the point. ;-)


It's cold and raining. This thing was fun to do. Why don'y you try
making one with an actual point?

I fail to see what your point is.



Agreed.

I liked the second commercial better than the first, but both were
entertaining. Did you send them to GM? Any response?
--
'Til next time,

John H

***************************************** *
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
***************************************** *

I doubt that Gm would like either one. They really should pay
attention to the fact that they are making the same mistakes they made
in the past.

And, we have all seen examples of fools who can't drive and talk at
the same time.



I don't think they are making the same mistakes they did in the 1970's.

They are offering fuel efficient cars yet offer the larger cars,
pickup's and SUV's for those who can afford them without worrying
about gas mileage. Choice is good. Let's not forget that.

Their quality has also improved dramatically. That is indisputable.

What is driving them into bankruptcy are the deals they made with the
unions when they were making money hand over fist in the 50's, 60's and
70's. Except for Ford and Chrysler they were the only game in town then
and making money......lots of it. It was only right that they share
those profits with the workers. It was also only right that the unions
accepted the offers. That was then..........this is now. Their
problem is they did not forecast what those promises/commitments would
end up costing in the 21st century when folks started to retire and
collect on not only the retirement pay but the free medical benefits.
They are now paying the piper.

Let's hope they do not renege on their promises to the folks who spent
their lives helping them make money. If you promise someone a
retirement check and to pay for their medical insurance, then for God's
sake make sure you make good on your promise.

I am generally not a pro union person (except for the skilled
construction trades), but these folks accepted what was offered to them
and it is time for GM to step to the plate and continue to deliver what
they promised.

Let's hope this does not turn into another Republic Steel/J&L Steel/LTV
Steel deal for these GM retirees.

GM isn't losing market share because of any deals they made with the
unions.


Where did I say otherwise?



They are losing market share because I (for one) am not ever going to
consider buying another GM product.

Marketshare? I thought we were talking about their solvency. Declining
sales alone will not put them into bankruptsy. What will are the deals
they made with the unions that I wrote about earlier, combined with a
loss of sales.





Declining marketshare will put a company into bankruptcy if they have
excess capacity, and fail to restructure to be able to survive.


True, but GM has been closing plants and cutting their workforce. What they
cannot do anything about are the financial promises (retirement and medical)
made in the '60's, 70's and 80's to a now aging workforce cashing in their
cards. ;-)

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Some people might not use the tools the way they were intended.
Here are my two entries:

http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view....b-0013724ff5a7

http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view....b-0013724ff5a7





How is this for starters Jim?

http://tinyurl.com/owvba

Not very creative.



*Butt* definitely to the point. ;-)


It's cold and raining. This thing was fun to do. Why don'y you try
making one with an actual point?

I fail to see what your point is.



Agreed.

I liked the second commercial better than the first, but both were
entertaining. Did you send them to GM? Any response?
--
'Til next time,

John H

**************************************** **
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
**************************************** **

I doubt that Gm would like either one. They really should pay
attention to the fact that they are making the same mistakes they
made in the past.

And, we have all seen examples of fools who can't drive and talk at
the same time.



I don't think they are making the same mistakes they did in the
1970's.

They are offering fuel efficient cars yet offer the larger cars,
pickup's and SUV's for those who can afford them without worrying
about gas mileage. Choice is good. Let's not forget that.

Their quality has also improved dramatically. That is indisputable.

What is driving them into bankruptcy are the deals they made with the
unions when they were making money hand over fist in the 50's, 60's
and 70's. Except for Ford and Chrysler they were the only game in town
then and making money......lots of it. It was only right that they
share those profits with the workers. It was also only right that the
unions accepted the offers. That was then..........this is now.
Their problem is they did not forecast what those promises/commitments
would end up costing in the 21st century when folks started to retire
and collect on not only the retirement pay but the free medical
benefits. They are now paying the piper.

Let's hope they do not renege on their promises to the folks who spent
their lives helping them make money. If you promise someone a
retirement check and to pay for their medical insurance, then for
God's sake make sure you make good on your promise.

I am generally not a pro union person (except for the skilled
construction trades), but these folks accepted what was offered to
them and it is time for GM to step to the plate and continue to
deliver what they promised.

Let's hope this does not turn into another Republic Steel/J&L
Steel/LTV Steel deal for these GM retirees.

GM isn't losing market share because of any deals they made with the
unions.


Where did I say otherwise?



They are losing market share because I (for one) am not ever going to
consider buying another GM product.

Marketshare? I thought we were talking about their solvency. Declining
sales alone will not put them into bankruptsy. What will are the deals
they made with the unions that I wrote about earlier, combined with a
loss of sales.





Declining marketshare will put a company into bankruptcy if they have
excess capacity, and fail to restructure to be able to survive.


True, but GM has been closing plants and cutting their workforce. What
they cannot do anything about are the financial promises (retirement and
medical) made in the '60's, 70's and 80's to a now aging workforce cashing
in their cards. ;-)


Some interesting comments were made by Bill Ford, CEO of Ford Motor Co.
earlier this week.
Claiming Ford is in no danger of bankruptcy, but faced serious challenges,
he said that regions outside of North America are performing well. Overall,
Ford earned 2 billion dollars last year, (down 42 percent from the year
previous), but North American operations lost 1.6 billion.

RCE