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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?

In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.

Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.

Help Selecting New Shoes for Car
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?
In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.
Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.

I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.
With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the
same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?
In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.
Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.

I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.
With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie

I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though: I'm a
fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.

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"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:17:43 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the
same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?

In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.

Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.

I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.

Lenght of service is manipulated by making the tire out of harder
material. What you gain in life, you lose in traction. Especially on
wet surfaces. Personaly, I'd rather have better traction.



Having hydroplaned for about 200 feet, just once, I'd agree. It's an
interesting experience. Like being mauled by a bear.

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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the
same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?

In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.

Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.

I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.

With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie


I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though: I'm a
fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.


Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus
Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the
same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?

In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.

Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.

I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.

With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie


I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though: I'm
a fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.
Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.

No COSTCO here. And, the trip wouldn't be worthwhile anyway. I have a
compressor in my garage.

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Don White wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus
Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to
the same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?

In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.

Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.

I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.

With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie


I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though:
I'm a fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.
I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and thus
the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.
I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and thus
the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie

1.......2.......3.........

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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.
I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and thus
the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie

1.......2.......3.........


Doug,
If you don't have a Costco close by, check out Pep Boys, they charge a
little more than Costco, but boy is it worth it. Whenever I replace the
hydrogen in the tires, it is like driving a new car.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

Help Selecting New Shoes for Car
 

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.
I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and thus
the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie

1.......2.......3.........
Doug,
If you don't have a Costco close by, check out Pep Boys, they charge a
little more than Costco, but boy is it worth it. Whenever I replace the
hydrogen in the tires, it is like driving a new car.

--
Reggie

That's ridiculous.

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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus
Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the
same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?

In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.

Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.

I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.

With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie


I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though: I'm
a fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.


I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and thus
the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie


I trust you are just kidding. You are.........aren't you?

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JimH wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus
Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the
same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?
In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.
Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.
I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.
With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie

I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though: I'm
a fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.


I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and thus
the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie


I trust you are just kidding. You are.........aren't you?


If you haven't tried it, I recommend you run down to Costco immediately.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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Reggie Smithers wrote:
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?
In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.
Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.

I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.
With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie

First five from the Toyo list:
800 ULTRA RADIAL ALL A B 700
SPECTRUM RADIAL ALL A B 580
800 + 75 RADIAL 15 EXCEPT A B 540
800 + 75 RADIAL 14 A B 520
800 + 75 RADIAL P235/75R15XL A B 500

They are ranked quite high in their respective price range......

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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus
Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to
the same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?
In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo
tires
for length of service.
Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.
I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the
last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.
With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie

I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though:
I'm a fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.


I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and thus
the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie


I trust you are just kidding. You are.........aren't you?
If you haven't tried it, I recommend you run down to Costco immediately.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."



Ummmm........................no thanks.

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Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up
much better.
I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and
thus the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie
1.......2.......3.........

Doug,
If you don't have a Costco close by, check out Pep Boys, they charge a
little more than Costco, but boy is it worth it. Whenever I replace
the hydrogen in the tires, it is like driving a new car.


Do you float a few feet over the pavement?
Harry,
No, but it does reduce the weight of my car by approximately 35%.
Really is a great deal.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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basskisser wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?
In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.
Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.
I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.
With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie

First five from the Toyo list:
800 ULTRA RADIAL ALL A B 700
SPECTRUM RADIAL ALL A B 580
800 + 75 RADIAL 15 EXCEPT A B 540
800 + 75 RADIAL 14 A B 520
800 + 75 RADIAL P235/75R15XL A B 500

They are ranked quite high in their respective price range......

Bassy,
I was comparing them to the Bridgeston and Micheline rating and was
really looking at the number of tires in each range.

PS - My high ranking Bridgeston tires only get 30,000 miles to them.
Since they are rated for 60,000 I have had them discount the tires 50%
and install them for free.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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RLM wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:39:42 +0000, Don White wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the
same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?
In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.
Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.
I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.
With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie

I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though: I'm a
fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.


Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.

nitrogen

hydrogen = Hindenburg= boom
That was the reason I had to give up smoking.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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Reggie Smithers wrote:
Don White wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus
Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to
the same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?


In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.


Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.


I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.


With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie



I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though:
I'm a fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.

I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and thus
the wear on both the tires and suspension.


It's free for me..I just have to drive up the hill to COSTCO. Another
benefit....no moisture present (or so they claim) and rims don't rust on
insides. Important for me..as I've gotten up to 7 years on a set of
tires....

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Reggie Smithers wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up
much better.

I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and
thus the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie


1.......2.......3.........

Doug,
If you don't have a Costco close by, check out Pep Boys, they charge a
little more than Costco, but boy is it worth it. Whenever I replace the
hydrogen in the tires, it is like driving a new car.


Why do you replace the hydrogen....do you 'wear it out'?

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Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up
much better.

I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and
thus the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie

1.......2.......3.........

Doug,
If you don't have a Costco close by, check out Pep Boys, they charge a
little more than Costco, but boy is it worth it. Whenever I replace
the hydrogen in the tires, it is like driving a new car.


Do you float a few feet over the pavement?


I think Reggie is mixing up hydrogen with the helium he sniffs on a
regular basis.

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Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up
much better.

I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and
thus the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie

1.......2.......3.........

Doug,
If you don't have a Costco close by, check out Pep Boys, they charge
a little more than Costco, but boy is it worth it. Whenever I
replace the hydrogen in the tires, it is like driving a new car.


Do you float a few feet over the pavement?


I think Reggie is mixing up hydrogen with the helium he sniffs on a
regular basis.
They both are great for a quick buzz.


--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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RLM wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:39:42 +0000, Don White wrote:


Doug Kanter wrote:

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
om...


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:



Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:



My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the
same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?

In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.

Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.

I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.

With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie


I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though: I'm a
fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.



Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.


nitrogen

hydrogen = Hindenburg= boom

Wasn't that helium... Reggie's 'gas of choice'.

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:36:45 -0500, Reggie Smithers penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up
much better.
I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and
thus the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie
1.......2.......3.........

Doug,
If you don't have a Costco close by, check out Pep Boys, they charge a
little more than Costco, but boy is it worth it. Whenever I replace
the hydrogen in the tires, it is like driving a new car.


Do you float a few feet over the pavement?
Harry,
No, but it does reduce the weight of my car by approximately 35%.
Really is a great deal.

If you replace the standard length shackles in the rear of your car
with longer ones, you'll always be going downhill. Just another
suggestion to save on gas mileage....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


And if you grease your brake drums every year they will work much smoother.
;-)


BTW: I really think Reggie was being serious with his first couple of
posts.

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:44:25 GMT, Doug Kanter penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On 28 Mar 2006 09:14:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:01:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


My daily runner needs new shoes.

Size: 265/65/17

I'm looking at Michelin Cross Terrains at $193 a foot, versus
Goodyear
Wrangler SR-A's at $179. In other words, the price is close to the
same.

So, how the hell does one decide, one over the other?
In my experience on a number of vehicles, you can't beat Toyo tires
for length of service.
Wife's van came with Toyos, they lasted forever, and were quite.
I won't buy a different replacement tire other than Toyo. On the last
truck, I went almost 75K on them - no joke.

Admittedly, they were on their last legs, but they still had tread.
With you and Bassy both getting great service from TOYO, it makes me
question the info on safercar.gov. TOYO has some of the lowest wear
ratings on the site.

--
Reggie

I got almost 60k from the Toyos on my 92 Taurus. Disclaimer, though: I'm
a fanatic about tire pressure. I check it at least once a week.
Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.
No COSTCO here. And, the trip wouldn't be worthwhile anyway. I have a
compressor in my garage.


Hydrogen? I hope you mean Nitrogen!

Gene,
If you are going to bring logic into this discussion .....



--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up
much better.
I pay extra for the hydrogen. It reduces the amount of weight and
thus the wear on both the tires and suspension.

--
Reggie
1.......2.......3.........

Doug,
If you don't have a Costco close by, check out Pep Boys, they charge
a little more than Costco, but boy is it worth it. Whenever I
replace the hydrogen in the tires, it is like driving a new car.

Do you float a few feet over the pavement?


I think Reggie is mixing up hydrogen with the helium he sniffs on a
regular basis.


That must be why he sounds like Mickey Mouse on the phone!

Only when I am in the car.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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"Don White" wrote in message
...


Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.

Another candidate for "MythBusters"

RCE

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RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.

Another candidate for "MythBusters"

RCE
The did that with footballs and hylium. All I know is when I put hydrogen
into my tires, my are is 35% lighter.

That is my story and I am sticking to it.




--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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Reggie Smithers wrote:
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up
much better.

Another candidate for "MythBusters"

RCE
The did that with footballs and hylium. All I know is when I put hydrogen
into my tires, my CAR is 35% lighter.

That is my story and I am sticking to it.






--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.

Another candidate for "MythBusters"

RCE
The did that with footballs and hylium. All I know is when I put hydrogen
into my tires, my are is 35% lighter.

That is my story and I am sticking to it.



helium.

but, surely you jest. Hydrogen?

RCE

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RCE wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.
Another candidate for "MythBusters"

RCE
The did that with footballs and hylium. All I know is when I put hydrogen
into my tires, my are is 35% lighter.

That is my story and I am sticking to it.



helium.

but, surely you jest. Hydrogen?

RCE


Richard,
Don made a minor fax paux and said Hydrogen, when he meant to say
Nitrogen. Since Hydrogen is flammable and would never be used in a
tire, I made a little joke about the benefit of hydrogen making the car
lighter, reducing wear and tear on your tires and suspension.

I was curious about the reason for nitrogen and it appears the real
reason for nitrogen instead of air is nitrogen will not lose pressure as
quickly as air. Since all tire mfg'ers still recommend you check your
tire pressure monthly, wither you use air or nitrogen, it really is
snake oil to increase the profit margin of the dealer.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

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Gene Kearns wrote:

Hydrogen? I hope you mean Nitrogen!


D'oh!
That's why Reggie is acting funny...he's laughing it up at my expense.
Yes.. it certainly is nitrogen. Thanks Gene.
http://www.tirelast.com/

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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:24:14 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

RCE wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Whip down to COSTCO and pump hydrogen into those tires. Stays up much
better.
Another candidate for "MythBusters"

RCE
The did that with footballs and hylium. All I know is when I put hydrogen
into my tires, my are is 35% lighter.

That is my story and I am sticking to it.



helium.

but, surely you jest. Hydrogen?

RCE


Richard,
Don made a minor fax paux and said Hydrogen, when he meant to say
Nitrogen. Since Hydrogen is flammable and would never be used in a
tire, I made a little joke about the benefit of hydrogen making the car
lighter, reducing wear and tear on your tires and suspension.

I was curious about the reason for nitrogen and it appears the real
reason for nitrogen instead of air is nitrogen will not lose pressure as
quickly as air. Since all tire mfg'ers still recommend you check your
tire pressure monthly, wither you use air or nitrogen, it really is
snake oil to increase the profit margin of the dealer.

And it was the best thread in a month!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

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Doug Kanter wrote:

Having hydroplaned for about 200 feet, just once, I'd agree. It's an
interesting experience. Like being mauled by a bear.

Somewhere (?) I saw a good test of the effect of tire
pressure on hydroplaning resistance. They used a plate of
glass with a camera underneath and controlled depth of water
above to photograph the contact patch as a car drove across
it at various speeds and tire pressures.

The counterintuitive result was that higher tire pressure
significantly improved contact area.

-rick-

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"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Doug Kanter wrote:

Having hydroplaned for about 200 feet, just once, I'd agree. It's an
interesting experience. Like being mauled by a bear.

Somewhere (?) I saw a good test of the effect of tire pressure on
hydroplaning resistance. They used a plate of glass with a camera
underneath and controlled depth of water above to photograph the contact
patch as a car drove across it at various speeds and tire pressures.

The counterintuitive result was that higher tire pressure significantly
improved contact area.

-rick-

Right. And it was a combination of things with my tires. When I got to a gas
station, I checked the pressure and found it was within the recommended
range (more on this later). The next day, I called Michelin to ask "WTF?
These are two-week old tires....". They were surprised the dealer had chosen
the tires they did for my car, a 1982 Toyota Tercel. They recommended a
different one, and had their regional rep arrange for a free replacement.
But, even better, he had a long talk with me about how the car maker's
recommended pressure is a crap shoot. The numbers are often aimed at
comfort, not the best traction or handling. If I recall, the numbers were
the usual 27/29 combo. He suggested going to 32, with tires whose max cold
pressure was 40-something. That worked miracles, especially when the snow
began.

I later switched to a real mechanic, who echoed what the guy at Michelin had
said. On all subsequent cars, I've experimented with pressures above the
mfr's recommendations, and in all cases, it's resulted in better
performance. On my current vehicle, the Tacoma, I'm running at 38 lbs with
the Nokian tires, whose max is in the low 50s. This was the result of some
observations by the mechanic with regard to wear.

You really have to experiment with new tires and pay attention to what's
going on.

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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

Why is that counter-intuitive? Makes more sense that the harder the
tire, the ability to channel the water is better. Less tire pressure,
more surface area to plane.

You're clearly correct. Now I'm not even sure why it seemed
backwards at first thought. Something about a smaller
contact patch providing a bigger contact patch I guess.

-rick-

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:22:39 -0800, -rick- wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

Why is that counter-intuitive? Makes more sense that the harder the
tire, the ability to channel the water is better. Less tire pressure,
more surface area to plane.

You're clearly correct. Now I'm not even sure why it seemed
backwards at first thought. Something about a smaller
contact patch providing a bigger contact patch I guess.

Trust me - I used to think that way myself until I actually thought
about it. :)

I used to think fat, wide tires provided better traction in snow or mud.
Turns out it's not so.
Narrow, hard tires are better. The weight of the vehicle is distributed
over a smaller contact area, providing better traction.

RCE

RCE

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"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

Why is that counter-intuitive? Makes more sense that the harder the
tire, the ability to channel the water is better. Less tire pressure,
more surface area to plane.

You're clearly correct. Now I'm not even sure why it seemed backwards at
first thought. Something about a smaller contact patch providing a bigger
contact patch I guess.

-rick-

For a given combination of tire and vehicle, pressure that's too low will
allow the tire to roll with a hollow spot on the road. Water will collect in
that hollow rather than be passed through. I saw a brief video of this once,
and I may not be describing it right.