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Doug Kanter March 26th 06 03:11 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gunman kills 7 including himself at Seattle party
Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:29 PM ET


The gunman, whose identity was being withheld, then forced his way into
the house and gunned down more victims. He sprayed bullets everywhere
while barely saying a word, Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowski said.


Oh boy. The plaid shirts in rec.guns are gonna have a field day with this
paragraph. Shotgun, "sprayed bullets".

"Tell ya what, Clevis. Them reporters don't know the first dern thing about
guns".



[email protected] March 26th 06 03:58 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

Harry Krause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gunman kills 7 including himself at Seattle party
Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:29 PM ET


The gunman, whose identity was being withheld, then forced his way into
the house and gunned down more victims. He sprayed bullets everywhere
while barely saying a word, Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowski said.


Oh boy. The plaid shirts in rec.guns are gonna have a field day with this
paragraph. Shotgun, "sprayed bullets".

"Tell ya what, Clevis. Them reporters don't know the first dern thing about
guns".




I didn't notice what kind of gun he used to "spray," but the article
mentioned he had an "assault rifle" in his vehicle, with 30-round clips.
I'm sure it was just a semi-auto rifle, not a full-auto, real-deal
assault rifle.

If you need a 30-round magazine, you're a bad shot.



I heard the police chief's news conference, and the chief did use the
word spray.
The killer went into the house with two weapons, a pistol grip shotgun
and an assault rifle. Like the police chief commented, "A pistol grip
shotgun is not a weapon used for hunting, unless you're hunting human
beings."

If there were some drugs motivating this behavior, it's unlikely that
the drug was caffeine.

The shooter probably planned this massacre well in advance. After
spending time at the party, we went out to his truck where he "just
happened to have" (?!) a pistol grip shotgun, a high powered assault
rifle, dozens of shells in bandoliers for the shotgun, and hundreds of
rounds in assault rifle clips.

The kids were having a Zombie party, where people were all made up with
fake blood, phony wounds, etc. The theme of the party was gruesome
death. This idiot took everything pretty seriously. You have to wonder
if the first two shot (on the front porch)
saw him walking up with his bandoliers and weapons and just assumed it
was part of his party get up?

Two of the girls who escaped locked themselves in a upstairs bathroom.
When the killer found the door locked, he just fired a big hole in it
with his shotgun and went on down the hallway. He missed the girls
inside. If that had happened to me, it would have been a good thing
that I was in the bathroom, that's for sure.

A tragedy for sure. Too bad the sick wacko killed himself before we
could study his illness and see if the results could be used to
intervene with somebody else headed down the same path......but he did
save us multi-millions of dollars and many months of headline news as
the trial and (years from now) the execution occured.


Bert Robbins March 26th 06 04:00 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gunman kills 7 including himself at Seattle party
Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:29 PM ET


The gunman, whose identity was being withheld, then forced his way into
the house and gunned down more victims. He sprayed bullets everywhere
while barely saying a word, Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowski said.


Oh boy. The plaid shirts in rec.guns are gonna have a field day with this
paragraph. Shotgun, "sprayed bullets".

"Tell ya what, Clevis. Them reporters don't know the first dern thing
about guns".



I didn't notice what kind of gun he used to "spray," but the article
mentioned he had an "assault rifle" in his vehicle, with 30-round clips.
I'm sure it was just a semi-auto rifle, not a full-auto, real-deal assault
rifle.


A semi-automatic pistor is a military style assualt weapon. A 12 gauge
shotgun is a miltiary style assualt weapon. A bayonet is a military style
assualt weapon. A stick is a military style assualt weapo, as is a rock.

If you need a 30-round magazine, you're a bad shot.


Or, you hate reloading after every kill.



Doug Kanter March 26th 06 04:01 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gunman kills 7 including himself at Seattle party
Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:29 PM ET


The gunman, whose identity was being withheld, then forced his way into
the house and gunned down more victims. He sprayed bullets everywhere
while barely saying a word, Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowski said.


Oh boy. The plaid shirts in rec.guns are gonna have a field day with this
paragraph. Shotgun, "sprayed bullets".

"Tell ya what, Clevis. Them reporters don't know the first dern thing
about guns".



I didn't notice what kind of gun he used to "spray," but the article
mentioned he had an "assault rifle" in his vehicle, with 30-round clips.
I'm sure it was just a semi-auto rifle, not a full-auto, real-deal assault
rifle.

If you need a 30-round magazine, you're a bad shot.


He used a shotgun.



[email protected] March 26th 06 04:07 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.


According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."


Bert Robbins March 26th 06 04:16 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.


According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."


A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the ability to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"



Doug Kanter March 26th 06 04:20 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.


According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."


Yeah...I realized I must've missed that. I saw that he had a rifle in the
car, but not that he also used one in the house. My bad.



Don White March 26th 06 04:40 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunman kills 7 including himself at Seattle party
Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:29 PM ET

The gunman, whose identity was being withheld, then forced his way into
the house and gunned down more victims. He sprayed bullets everywhere
while barely saying a word, Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowski said.

Oh boy. The plaid shirts in rec.guns are gonna have a field day with this
paragraph. Shotgun, "sprayed bullets".

"Tell ya what, Clevis. Them reporters don't know the first dern thing
about guns".



I didn't notice what kind of gun he used to "spray," but the article
mentioned he had an "assault rifle" in his vehicle, with 30-round clips.
I'm sure it was just a semi-auto rifle, not a full-auto, real-deal assault
rifle.



A semi-automatic pistor is a military style assualt weapon. A 12 gauge
shotgun is a miltiary style assualt weapon. A bayonet is a military style
assualt weapon. A stick is a military style assualt weapo, as is a rock.


If you need a 30-round magazine, you're a bad shot.



Or, you hate reloading after every kill.



I thought you *were* a Marine...?
One shot...one kill!

RG March 26th 06 07:37 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 
.....but he did save us multi-millions of dollars and many months of
headline news as
the trial and (years from now) the execution occured.


Washington has the death penalty? I wouldn't have guessed that.



Doug Kanter March 26th 06 07:52 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"RG" wrote in message
news:jbBVf.14255$6a1.4965@fed1read04...
.....but he did save us multi-millions of dollars and many months of
headline news as
the trial and (years from now) the execution occured.


Washington has the death penalty? I wouldn't have guessed that.


That's because all we hear about is two cities - Seattle and Redmond. Some
think that everyone in NY is a gun-shy liberal. But, we have plenty of red,
too.



RG March 26th 06 08:05 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

" Washington has the death penalty? I wouldn't have guessed that.


That's because all we hear about is two cities - Seattle and Redmond.


This is, of course, true. The coastal cities in Washington have a distinct
list to port, but once you cross the mountains, it's a very fine line
between Washington and Idaho.






Bert Robbins March 27th 06 12:53 AM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunman kills 7 including himself at Seattle party
Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:29 PM ET
The gunman, whose identity was being withheld, then forced his way
into the house and gunned down more victims. He sprayed bullets
everywhere while barely saying a word, Seattle Police Chief Gil
Kerlikowski said.
Oh boy. The plaid shirts in rec.guns are gonna have a field day with
this paragraph. Shotgun, "sprayed bullets".

"Tell ya what, Clevis. Them reporters don't know the first dern thing
about guns".

I didn't notice what kind of gun he used to "spray," but the article
mentioned he had an "assault rifle" in his vehicle, with 30-round
clips.
I'm sure it was just a semi-auto rifle, not a full-auto, real-deal
assault rifle.

A semi-automatic pistor is a military style assualt weapon. A 12 gauge
shotgun is a miltiary style assualt weapon. A bayonet is a military
style assualt weapon. A stick is a military style assualt weapo, as is a
rock.


If you need a 30-round magazine, you're a bad shot.

Or, you hate reloading after every kill.



I thought you *were* a Marine...?
One shot...one kill!



Bert was the Brokenback Mountain marine.


You are projecting again Harry.



Bert Robbins March 27th 06 12:53 AM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"RG" wrote in message
news:jbBVf.14255$6a1.4965@fed1read04...
.....but he did save us multi-millions of dollars and many months of
headline news as
the trial and (years from now) the execution occured.


Washington has the death penalty? I wouldn't have guessed that.


That's because all we hear about is two cities - Seattle and Redmond. Some
think that everyone in NY is a gun-shy liberal. But, we have plenty of
red, too.


Not enough red! But, we are working on it.



Doug Kanter March 27th 06 05:30 AM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"RG" wrote in message
news:jbBVf.14255$6a1.4965@fed1read04...
.....but he did save us multi-millions of dollars and many months of
headline news as
the trial and (years from now) the execution occured.


Washington has the death penalty? I wouldn't have guessed that.


That's because all we hear about is two cities - Seattle and Redmond.
Some think that everyone in NY is a gun-shy liberal. But, we have plenty
of red, too.


Not enough red! But, we are working on it.


Yank that needle out of your arm, Bertie.



jps March 28th 06 09:20 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 
In article XBBVf.14258$6a1.6687@fed1read04, says...

" Washington has the death penalty? I wouldn't have guessed that.


That's because all we hear about is two cities - Seattle and Redmond.


This is, of course, true. The coastal cities in Washington have a distinct
list to port, but once you cross the mountains, it's a very fine line
between Washington and Idaho.


Actually, Spokane is 55% democrat so it's not as clear cut as one would
assume.

jps

UglyDan®©™ March 28th 06 11:46 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 
jps wrote
Actually, Spokane is 55% democrat so it's not as clear cut as one would
assume.
jps


I guess that explains why they voted for a gay republican mayor, They
must of known he was in the closet. UD





[email protected] March 29th 06 01:05 AM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.


According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."


A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the ability to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"


You would need to ask our Chief of Police what he had in mind when he
used the term.


jps March 29th 06 02:10 AM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 
In article ,
says...
jps wrote
Actually, Spokane is 55% democrat so it's not as clear cut as one would
assume.
jps


I guess that explains why they voted for a gay republican mayor, They
must of known he was in the closet. UD


He was the best mayor they've had in 25 years. Both Democrats and
Republicans were sorry to see him screw up so badly.

Funny thing is, as a state rep he passed and sponsored legislation all
his life that upheld and promoted discrimination against his own
leanings.

Confused? Oh yeah.

jps

jps March 29th 06 02:11 AM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 
In article . com,
says...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.

According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."


A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the ability to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"


You would need to ask our Chief of Police what he had in mind when he
used the term.


My guess is that anything with a 30 round magazine is considered an
assault weapon.

I'm sure they come in real handy when stalking deer.

jps

Bert Robbins March 29th 06 12:52 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.

According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."


A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the ability to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"


You would need to ask our Chief of Police what he had in mind when he
used the term.


Just as I suspected, there is no legal definition of an assualt rifle.



Bert Robbins March 29th 06 12:55 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
says...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.

According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."

A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the ability to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"


You would need to ask our Chief of Police what he had in mind when he
used the term.


My guess is that anything with a 30 round magazine is considered an
assault weapon.


So, a BB gun with a tubular magazine that can hold 40 or 50 projectiles is
an assualt weapon?

I'm sure they come in real handy when stalking deer.


Depends upon whether you just want to wound the deer or ensure the deer is
killed.



Doug Kanter March 29th 06 01:33 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
says...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.

According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol
grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."

A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the ability
to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"

You would need to ask our Chief of Police what he had in mind when he
used the term.


My guess is that anything with a 30 round magazine is considered an
assault weapon.


So, a BB gun with a tubular magazine that can hold 40 or 50 projectiles is
an assualt weapon?

I'm sure they come in real handy when stalking deer.


Depends upon whether you just want to wound the deer or ensure the deer is
killed.


I don't really give a damn how many rounds someone carries in one magazine.
But, I know a family of real hunters. Grandfather, three sons, 4 grandkids.
None of them carry rifles whose mags hold more than 3-5 rounds, and they
usually need just two shots to do the job. I suppose these people are
unusually skilled, though. Maybe.

Around 1972, I was having lunch at the Roscoe Diner, on route 17 in the
Catskills, when one of a group of knucklehead hunters blew out the window of
a NY State trooper's car with his shotgun. The trooper just shook his head,
put down his coffee, looked at the waitress and said "They're back..." It
was the first day of hunting season, and all the beginners from NYC were in
the area.

Maybe those are the idiot hunters you're thinking of when you say 30 rounds
is handy to have. What the hell was the guy in the parking lot doing with
buckshot in the gun during deer season, when slugs are the correct load?
(Never mind that the gun shouldn't have been loaded to start with). Or, the
local guy who, last November, blew his kneecap to bits while loading his
dead deer into his pickup.



jps March 29th 06 06:37 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 
In article , says...

My guess is that anything with a 30 round magazine is considered an
assault weapon.


So, a BB gun with a tubular magazine that can hold 40 or 50 projectiles is
an assualt weapon?


Purposeful ignorance doesn't get you anywhere Bertie. 30 rounds of
ammunition, wherein ANY SINGLE ROUND is enough to kill a human being
(for this is what those guns are designed to do) should be considered an
assault weapon.


I'm sure they come in real handy when stalking deer.


Depends upon whether you just want to wound the deer or ensure the deer is
killed.


Oh for ****'s sake Bertie. You need an AK to kill a deer, a moose, a
bear?

Aren't there far better weapons available for the purpose?

jps

jps March 29th 06 06:38 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:52:42 -0500, "Bert Robbins"
wrote:


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.

According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."

A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the ability to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"

You would need to ask our Chief of Police what he had in mind when he
used the term.


Just as I suspected, there is no legal definition of an assualt rifle.


Assault Rifle: A military rifle intended purely for one-man operation
and equipped to provide both semiautomatic or full-automatic fire by
means of a selector switch or other fire-control device. They are
chambered for an intermediate cartridge, have barrels under 20 inches,
make extensive use of plastics and stampings, use gas operation and
locked breeches, have magazine capacities of 20 to 30 rounds, weigh
from six to 10 pounds and are quite compact.


And used for KILLING PEOPLE.

jps

Bert Robbins March 30th 06 01:23 AM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

My guess is that anything with a 30 round magazine is considered an
assault weapon.


So, a BB gun with a tubular magazine that can hold 40 or 50 projectiles
is
an assualt weapon?


Purposeful ignorance doesn't get you anywhere Bertie. 30 rounds of
ammunition, wherein ANY SINGLE ROUND is enough to kill a human being
(for this is what those guns are designed to do) should be considered an
assault weapon.


"Should be" doesn't mean anything.


I'm sure they come in real handy when stalking deer.


Depends upon whether you just want to wound the deer or ensure the deer
is
killed.


Oh for ****'s sake Bertie. You need an AK to kill a deer, a moose, a
bear?


M60 would be my choice if I wanted to get the animal down and dead. I don't
want to have to track the critter through the woods.

Aren't there far better weapons available for the purpose?


Yes there are.





Bert Robbins March 30th 06 01:25 AM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:52:42 -0500, "Bert Robbins"
wrote:


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.

According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol
grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."

A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the ability
to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"

You would need to ask our Chief of Police what he had in mind when he
used the term.

Just as I suspected, there is no legal definition of an assualt rifle.


Assault Rifle: A military rifle intended purely for one-man operation
and equipped to provide both semiautomatic or full-automatic fire by
means of a selector switch or other fire-control device. They are
chambered for an intermediate cartridge, have barrels under 20 inches,
make extensive use of plastics and stampings, use gas operation and
locked breeches, have magazine capacities of 20 to 30 rounds, weigh
from six to 10 pounds and are quite compact.


And used for KILLING PEOPLE.


That depends upon who is at operating end of the weapon.



JimH March 30th 06 01:26 AM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:52:42 -0500, "Bert Robbins"
wrote:


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.

According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol
grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."

A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the ability
to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the
weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"

You would need to ask our Chief of Police what he had in mind when he
used the term.

Just as I suspected, there is no legal definition of an assualt rifle.

Assault Rifle: A military rifle intended purely for one-man operation
and equipped to provide both semiautomatic or full-automatic fire by
means of a selector switch or other fire-control device. They are
chambered for an intermediate cartridge, have barrels under 20 inches,
make extensive use of plastics and stampings, use gas operation and
locked breeches, have magazine capacities of 20 to 30 rounds, weigh
from six to 10 pounds and are quite compact.


And used for KILLING PEOPLE.


That depends upon who is at operating end of the weapon.


Repeat after me:

Serenity now...............serenity now................serenity
now.............aaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmm. ...



Bert Robbins March 30th 06 02:51 AM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:52:42 -0500, "Bert Robbins"
wrote:


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug Kanter wrote:


He used a shotgun.

According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol
grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."

A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the
ability to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the
weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"

You would need to ask our Chief of Police what he had in mind when
he
used the term.

Just as I suspected, there is no legal definition of an assualt rifle.

Assault Rifle: A military rifle intended purely for one-man operation
and equipped to provide both semiautomatic or full-automatic fire by
means of a selector switch or other fire-control device. They are
chambered for an intermediate cartridge, have barrels under 20 inches,
make extensive use of plastics and stampings, use gas operation and
locked breeches, have magazine capacities of 20 to 30 rounds, weigh
from six to 10 pounds and are quite compact.

And used for KILLING PEOPLE.


That depends upon who is at operating end of the weapon.


Repeat after me:

Serenity now...............serenity now................serenity
now.............aaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmm. ...


Serenity is feeling the heat from a warm barrel.



Bert Robbins March 30th 06 01:02 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:52:42 -0500, "Bert Robbins"
wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Doug Kanter wrote:

He used a shotgun.
According to our chief of police, he had two weapons. A "pistol
grip"
shotgun and an "assault rifle."
A "pistol grip" is a choice by the shooter which enables the
ability to
bring your arm down tighter to the body to better control the
weapon.

What is the definition of an "assualt rifle?"
You would need to ask our Chief of Police what he had in mind when
he
used the term.
Just as I suspected, there is no legal definition of an assualt
rifle.
Assault Rifle: A military rifle intended purely for one-man
operation
and equipped to provide both semiautomatic or full-automatic fire by
means of a selector switch or other fire-control device. They are
chambered for an intermediate cartridge, have barrels under 20
inches,
make extensive use of plastics and stampings, use gas operation and
locked breeches, have magazine capacities of 20 to 30 rounds, weigh
from six to 10 pounds and are quite compact.
And used for KILLING PEOPLE.
That depends upon who is at operating end of the weapon.

Repeat after me:

Serenity now...............serenity now................serenity
now.............aaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmm. ...


Serenity is feeling the heat from a warm barrel.




You're not supposed to stick it *up there* Bert.


Projecting again Harry?



Don White March 30th 06 02:57 PM

Too much of that Seattle coffee?
 
Harry Krause wrote:



You're not supposed to stick it *up there* Bert.



I so wanted to say something low & nasty here...but in the interests of
a new & improved forum..... I'll just sit & daydream about my sailboat.


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