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Bryan March 25th 06 11:04 PM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 
With too much time on my hands and a vow to take my kids wakeboarding at
least once a week when the water warms enough, I'm wondering what the pro's
and con's of leaving my ski boat in the water at the marina, or on the
trailer at the marina, or in my driveway for the summer. Price is the
obvious negative.

The membership fee will cover all the launch fees I would have to pay so
that becomes a moot point.

Then there's a fee for a slip or for on the trailer storage.

What problems and extra maintenance will come up because of keeping the boat
in the water versus on the trailer?



JimH March 25th 06 11:14 PM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
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With too much time on my hands and a vow to take my kids wakeboarding at
least once a week when the water warms enough, I'm wondering what the
pro's and con's of leaving my ski boat in the water at the marina, or on
the trailer at the marina, or in my driveway for the summer. Price is the
obvious negative.

The membership fee will cover all the launch fees I would have to pay so
that becomes a moot point.

Then there's a fee for a slip or for on the trailer storage.

What problems and extra maintenance will come up because of keeping the
boat in the water versus on the trailer?

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Negatives:

You will have to bottom coat (and perhaps epoxy barrier coat) the boat. I
am doing this to mine at a cost of around $250 for materials alone. You
will have to redo the bottom coat every 2 years at a cost of about $100.
Also consider the cost of your time/

You will also have additional maintenance keeping the outdrive (assuming it
is an I/O) clean and maintained. Corrosion at the slip can also be a
factor. Zincs will have to be replaced more often. The I/O exterior will
not remain in pristine condition.
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Positives:

No more hassles at the boat ramps.

No more damage to the boat due to trailering.

Lower gasoline costs as you no longer have to haul the boat around with your
truck or SUV.

Being able to enjoy time at the marina before and after the trip.

Being able to take the boat out on your own.
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For me the positives outweigh the negatives.



Wayne.B March 26th 06 12:13 AM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:04:29 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

What problems and extra maintenance will come up because of keeping the boat
in the water versus on the trailer?


Fresh water I assume? Very few issues as long as the docks are
sheltered from wind and waves, and security is good.


Wayne.B March 26th 06 03:12 AM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:34:52 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

Yes, sorry, I should have stated fresh water. Does that change your details
at all (Jim)?


No, fresh water is easier since you don't need bottom paint and there
are fewer concerns with corrosion.


Bryan March 26th 06 03:34 AM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:04:29 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

What problems and extra maintenance will come up because of keeping the
boat
in the water versus on the trailer?


Fresh water I assume? Very few issues as long as the docks are
sheltered from wind and waves, and security is good.


Yes, sorry, I should have stated fresh water. Does that change your details
at all (Jim)?



JimH March 26th 06 05:34 AM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:04:29 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

What problems and extra maintenance will come up because of keeping the
boat
in the water versus on the trailer?


Fresh water I assume? Very few issues as long as the docks are
sheltered from wind and waves, and security is good.


Yes, sorry, I should have stated fresh water. Does that change your
details at all (Jim)?


No. The conditions I described are encountered in both fresh and salt
water, with salt water being less forgiving on the I/O's.

If you are docking in freshwater, make sure you use magnesium sacrificial
anodes vs. zinc though.




Bryan March 26th 06 07:34 AM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 
Thanks!


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:04:29 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

What problems and extra maintenance will come up because of keeping the
boat
in the water versus on the trailer?

Fresh water I assume? Very few issues as long as the docks are
sheltered from wind and waves, and security is good.


Yes, sorry, I should have stated fresh water. Does that change your
details at all (Jim)?


No. The conditions I described are encountered in both fresh and salt
water, with salt water being less forgiving on the I/O's.

If you are docking in freshwater, make sure you use magnesium sacrificial
anodes vs. zinc though.






Reggie Smithers March 26th 06 02:24 PM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:34:52 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

Yes, sorry, I should have stated fresh water. Does that change your details
at all (Jim)?


No, fresh water is easier since you don't need bottom paint and there
are fewer concerns with corrosion.

I have to disagree, even though you won't have barnacles in fresh water,
you still need a bottom paint or your boat will look like a putting
green that needs to be moved if you don't have bottom paint. A good
epoxy barrier coat will save you from blisters. In some fresh water
areas they do have problems with Zebra Oysters, which bottom paint will
minimize any problems. You will still need to flush the engine and
outdrive on a regular basis.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

JimH March 26th 06 04:51 PM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 
You still have to bottom paint a boat kept in fresh water. Corrosion
also remains a potential problem, but certainly less than in salt
water.


Don White March 26th 06 07:02 PM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 
Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:

You still have to bottom paint a boat kept in fresh water. Corrosion
also remains a potential problem, but certainly less than in salt
water.



I don't see any advantage to keeping a reasonably sized trailer boat in
the water if you have a convenient, well-run boat ramp available.



For sure. That's my plan. Trouble is...it's hard to find a club that's
reasonably priced with good ramp facilities here. The vast majority of
the sailors have their sailboats at slips or on moorings.
One exception on the harbour would be a military base that has a yacht club.

RG March 26th 06 07:45 PM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 

"JimH" wrote in message
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You still have to bottom paint a boat kept in fresh water. Corrosion
also remains a potential problem, but certainly less than in salt
water.


Keep in mind that we are talking about only seasonal in-water storage. Not
knowing how long the season is, makes it hard for me to give an absolute
answer. But, if I was storing a small trailerable boat in fresh water for
only 3-4 months, I would not bother to paint it. The bottom will clean
fairly easily with a pressure washer in that short amount of time, and you
don't have to screw up the aesthetics of a small sport boat that spends most
of its time out of the water with the bottom paint. No concern with
blisters in that short amount of time either, so no need for a barrier coat
as well.

My boat is stored year-round in fresh water, so it is obviously painted and
barrier coated.



JimH March 26th 06 07:51 PM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 

"RG" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...
You still have to bottom paint a boat kept in fresh water. Corrosion
also remains a potential problem, but certainly less than in salt
water.


Keep in mind that we are talking about only seasonal in-water storage.
Not knowing how long the season is, makes it hard for me to give an
absolute answer. But, if I was storing a small trailerable boat in fresh
water for only 3-4 months, I would not bother to paint it. The bottom
will clean fairly easily with a pressure washer in that short amount of
time, and you don't have to screw up the aesthetics of a small sport boat
that spends most of its time out of the water with the bottom paint. No
concern with blisters in that short amount of time either, so no need for
a barrier coat as well.

My boat is stored year-round in fresh water, so it is obviously painted
and barrier coated.


Even after a week in fresh water you are going have significant build up of
slime and algae that will not be easy to remove. If you are going to store
the boat in the water for a season, no matter if it is only 3 or 4 months,
you indeed have to bottom paint. ;-)



RG March 26th 06 08:01 PM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 


Even after a week in fresh water you are going have significant build up
of slime and algae that will not be easy to remove.


You must boat in some pretty sleazy water. You swim in that stuff? A week
in fresh water around here would not leave anything behind that would be
noticeable to any degree whatsoever. Three months would leave a mild
coating of algae that would come off easily with a pressure washer. Not
surprisingly, all fresh water is not created equal. I would refer the OP to
local knowledge at the specific marina he is considering to slip his boat.
The management at the marina or the mechanic's shop should be able to advise
him accurately.




[email protected] March 26th 06 08:10 PM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 

Reggie Smithers wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:34:52 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

Yes, sorry, I should have stated fresh water. Does that change your details
at all (Jim)?


No, fresh water is easier since you don't need bottom paint and there
are fewer concerns with corrosion.

I have to disagree, even though you won't have barnacles in fresh water,
you still need a bottom paint or your boat will look like a putting
green that needs to be moved if you don't have bottom paint. A good
epoxy barrier coat will save you from blisters. In some fresh water
areas they do have problems with Zebra Oysters, which bottom paint will
minimize any problems. You will still need to flush the engine and
outdrive on a regular basis.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."



While moored at an open dock ,sitting there (even under a cover) with
all that summer humidity working evil on the interiour of the boat and
flooring. mold, skank, etc.

There's also the problem of storm wakes racking the boat around in the
slip. or the possibility of a top breaking down, by a tear or not being
secured properly, that can fill a boat faster than a bathtub (so it
seems) leaving everything wet, if not partially submersed.

My boat is an 18ft. v-hull, that I trailer back and forth to the lake
(120.00) round trip. I ahven't seen any sign of trailer damage, and
when you have it out of the water, you can always take the opertunity
to do easier maintanence, and check stuff over.

I've seen people leave there boat in a lake all summer and it really
looks lousy when it gets pulled. green goo all over the hull, and
never fails. the outdrive9s0 are corroded, and requier more maintenence
on the lowers because of seal fatigue letting water in and/or oil out.

If it was me, I'd pull it out after every use. Marina's differ, but
ours will let you store a boat there( on your trailer) for about a
third of a slip fee on a seasonal lease.


JimH March 26th 06 09:28 PM

Summer storage in the water, on the hard, or my driveway?
 

"RG" wrote in message
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Even after a week in fresh water you are going have significant build up
of slime and algae that will not be easy to remove.


You must boat in some pretty sleazy water. You swim in that stuff?



Sure do. Glad to see you live in paradise.



A week in fresh water around here would not leave anything behind that
would be noticeable to any degree whatsoever. Three months would leave a
mild coating of algae that would come off easily with a pressure washer.
Not surprisingly, all fresh water is not created equal. I would refer the
OP to local knowledge at the specific marina he is considering to slip his
boat. The management at the marina or the mechanic's shop should be able to
advise him accurately.




That has not been my experience, even in the cleanest of lakes. You will
not see docked boats anywhere on the Great Lakes without bottom paint.




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