In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
in message 1417988.p35TLk4rgZ@FreeBSD:

Roger wrote:

Norseman/Vikings Crossed the Atlantic by 860 A.D.

"Cite your source."

The idiot child has none.

I didn't know that you needed one, you should know this stuff.

874 Vikings from Norway began to survey Iceland. The monks withdrew to
Ireland. The 40,000-square-mile island situated 500 miles northwest of
Scotland was first settled by Norwegians.
(NH, 6/96, p.53)(HNQ, 4/28/00)

More timelines at the url below.
http://timelines.ws/countries/ICELAND.HTML

Ah, so you think Norway to Iceland is "crossing the Atlantic."

The north Atlantic, yes.

My bad.

I assumed you actually had some knowledge of geography.

Indeed I do.

You see, the body of water between Norway and Iceland is the Norwegian
Sea. While arguably part of the North Atlantic, I have never ever
hear anyone describe its crossing to be "crossing the Atlantic."

Why must you nit pic every little thing. I call it the "North Atlantic"

But you did not say "the North Atlantic," you said "the Atlantic,"
clearly trying to suggest that this is more arduous than the crossing
being attempted by these Africans.

Nor is Norway to Iceland a dramatically longer trip than the crossing
being attempted by these Africans.

The trip from Norway to Iceland would be far more harsh than anything the
Africans would experience in the Norwegian sea as you call it.

No, they are both about 600 miles or 1000 kilometers, your lies about
knowing geography (or of actually checking any of your facts before
posting) notwithstanding.

Yet, Blacks of today -
with advanced technology can't make a 1,000 Kilometer trip.

And your proof that these Africans had access to "advanced technology"
is ... ?

Technology is all around you and them. Even you will admit that these
people have access to technology that the Norseman didn't have.

No, I won't.

There ya have it folks. According to Roger, the Norseman were more
technologically advanced in 874 A.D. than today's blacks are in 2006.

I did not say "today's blacks" in general , idiot child

We were comparing "today's blacks" with the Norseman of 874.

No, you were comparing these specific Africans with those Norsemen,
because you have offered no evidence that blacks in general are
incapable of such a crossing.

-- I was very
specifically and clearly referring to the Africans described in the
article.

So was I.

Then you lied when you claimed to have been "'today's blacks' with the
Norseman of 874."

Thank you for the admission.

Now -- what proof do you offer that *they* had access to "advanced
technology?"

What proof do you offer that *they* had access to "advanced
technology?"

Its the year 2006, not 874 A.D. Dumb Joo Roger.

And of course, access to advanced technology is exactly the same the
world over and unaffected by things like the ability to pay for it?

Are you *sure* that's your final answer?

Your proof that these Africans had access to "advanced technology" is
... ?

Tell me again how were all 'the same'

Tell me how many "Norseman/Vikings" died attempting the crossing
before one made it?

None really knows.

And how many centuries was it before any of his countrymen made it
back across?

They were explorers, not sure they wanted to go back. Many think the
Norseman made the trip to America long before Columbus. As for them
going back North, how do you think they brought 10,000 settlers from
Norway to Iceland?

I didn't say "back north" -- said back across the Atlantic.

How do you think they got from Iceland to Norway?

Across the Norwegian Sea.

And, the Norwegian sea is also the North Atlantic.

But once again, no one honest calls that crossing "crossing the
Atlantic."

Snip dumb joo Roger's attempt at diversion.

Why can't you admit that the original article proves today's Blacks are less
capable than the Norseman of 874?

Because it does no such thing.

And you're back to lying about your comparison.

Here, let me make it so simply even you'll see how stupid you are
being and run away from the thread like you do when your ignorance and
dishonesty is exposed in such clear terms that even you understand it:

The article does not discuss "today's Blacks," it discusses small
groups of very specific Africans who just happen to live in modern
times.

And your comparison does not talk about "the Norsemen," it talks about
very specific Norsemen how had made it their life's work (along with
that of their fathers and *their* fathers and so forth) to push the
limits of ship building and navigation.

Can you really not now see how irrational it is to compare the two?

Or is it your contention that just *any* random group of Norwegians of
that era would be capable of such a feat?