Bow-Mount Trolling Motor Recommendations
I'm in process of rigging a new fishing boat (18', wgt approx 1400 lbs incl.
boat, motor gas and equipment) and want to put a bow-mounted trolling motor on it. Any recommendations? Are the ones which are wireless controlled a good buy? Minn-kota vs Motor Guide? 12v vs. 24v (I'm a casual fisherman not out there everyday). I've owned Minn-Kota transom mounted motors before and liked them, but have no experience with bow-mounted motors. Anything I should be particularly cautious of? Thanks, Ray |
Bow-Mount Trolling Motor Recommendations
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 20:36:37 -0500, "Ray Bates" wrote: I'm in process of rigging a new fishing boat (18', wgt approx 1400 lbs incl. boat, motor gas and equipment) and want to put a bow-mounted trolling motor on it. Any recommendations? Are the ones which are wireless controlled a good buy? Minn-kota vs Motor Guide? 12v vs. 24v (I'm a casual fisherman not out there everyday). I've owned Minn-Kota transom mounted motors before and liked them, but have no experience with bow-mounted motors. Anything I should be particularly cautious of? Yes - don't buy a Motor Guide - they are crap and Mercury's warranty on them suck. The are horribly engineered and prone to do interesting things like short out at the switch. Did I mention that Mercury's warranty on them sucks? Funny that. You don't hear people that own Motor Guides complain about them much, but I've seen several of them go bad for various reasons. My MinnKota just keeps going and going. |
Bow-Mount Trolling Motor Recommendations
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:44:47 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 20:36:37 -0500, "Ray Bates" wrote: I'm in process of rigging a new fishing boat (18', wgt approx 1400 lbs incl. boat, motor gas and equipment) and want to put a bow-mounted trolling motor on it. Any recommendations? Are the ones which are wireless controlled a good buy? Minn-kota vs Motor Guide? 12v vs. 24v (I'm a casual fisherman not out there everyday). I've owned Minn-Kota transom mounted motors before and liked them, but have no experience with bow-mounted motors. Anything I should be particularly cautious of? Yes - don't buy a Motor Guide - they are crap and Mercury's warranty on them suck. The are horribly engineered and prone to do interesting things like short out at the switch. Did I mention that Mercury's warranty on them sucks? Did I mention that Mercury's warranty on them sucks? I've heard that Mercury's warranty on Motor Guides suck. Is there any truth to this? |
Bow-Mount Trolling Motor Recommendations
Ray Bates wrote:
I'm in process of rigging a new fishing boat (18', wgt approx 1400 lbs incl. boat, motor gas and equipment) and want to put a bow-mounted trolling motor on it. Any recommendations? Are the ones which are wireless controlled a good buy? Minn-kota vs Motor Guide? 12v vs. 24v (I'm a casual fisherman not out there everyday). I've owned Minn-Kota transom mounted motors before and liked them, but have no experience with bow-mounted motors. Anything I should be particularly cautious of? Thanks, Ray Seem like you only need a 12-volt trolling motor. According to Minn-Kota tech support: I am sorry but we do not have a listing that shows what size motor works on which boat. There are just so many different styles of boats out there that it is not possible to maintain that sort of database. I can tell you that each of our motors are designed to push around a certain amount of weight. Our 30 lbs. thrust motors will handle a total boat weight up to around 1500 lbs. Our 40 lbs. thrust motors up to around 2000 lbs. Our 55 lbs. thrust motors up to around 2700 lbs. Our 70 lbs. thrust motors up to around 3500 lbs Our 80 lbs. thrust motors up to around 4000 lbs. The 12 volt systems are up to 55 lbs. thrust. The 24 volt systems would be 70 or 80 lbs. thrust. Seem like your 18-ft boat is very light. The total weight (1400-lb) plus two adults (360-lb), one extra battery (55-lb) for the trolling motor, and the trolling motor itself (...) will be only around 1900-lb to 2000-lb. According to the spec shown above, you will only need a trolling motor that can provide 40-lb thrust. If you want a bit more room for calculation error, you will go for a 55-lb thrust model, and that still only needs a 12-volt system. I am under the impression that we can use the trolling motor to bring us back home in case the outboard motor dies as long as we are not that far away from the shore and the current is not strong. This means this is a good idea to get a heavy long run-time deep cycle battery. This costs more; but you only need one for the 12-volt trolling motor anyway. My 18-ft Sea Ray center console is 2260-lb with motor, gas, equipments. Because I start with much heavier weight than yours, I will have to get a 24-volt trolling motor after adding 4 adults, trolling motor and extra batteries. This means I need _two_ 12-volt deep cycle batteries .... ~$$~ No, I haven't got a trolling motor for my boat yet (too cold for working on the boat). Therefore, I cannot give you any personal experience. Jay Chan |
Bow-Mount Trolling Motor Recommendations
Thanks for information, particularly the thrust chart.
The new boat is aluminum, which accounts for the lighter weight I would think. (The 24' fiberglass boat it is replacing weighed several thousand pounds -- but it got crushed somewhat when the barn in which I had it stored collapsed in a whind storm in November) Now it is a choice on "which" bow-mount motor and whether or not I want to pay the extra $$ for a wireless-remote set up. So many decisions. But that's part of the fun. Thanks again, ... and I didn't know that the warranty from Mercury sucked. Ray wrote in message oups.com... Ray Bates wrote: I'm in process of rigging a new fishing boat (18', wgt approx 1400 lbs incl. boat, motor gas and equipment) and want to put a bow-mounted trolling motor on it. Any recommendations? Are the ones which are wireless controlled a good buy? Minn-kota vs Motor Guide? 12v vs. 24v (I'm a casual fisherman not out there everyday). I've owned Minn-Kota transom mounted motors before and liked them, but have no experience with bow-mounted motors. Anything I should be particularly cautious of? Thanks, Ray Seem like you only need a 12-volt trolling motor. According to Minn-Kota tech support: I am sorry but we do not have a listing that shows what size motor works on which boat. There are just so many different styles of boats out there that it is not possible to maintain that sort of database. I can tell you that each of our motors are designed to push around a certain amount of weight. Our 30 lbs. thrust motors will handle a total boat weight up to around 1500 lbs. Our 40 lbs. thrust motors up to around 2000 lbs. Our 55 lbs. thrust motors up to around 2700 lbs. Our 70 lbs. thrust motors up to around 3500 lbs Our 80 lbs. thrust motors up to around 4000 lbs. The 12 volt systems are up to 55 lbs. thrust. The 24 volt systems would be 70 or 80 lbs. thrust. Seem like your 18-ft boat is very light. The total weight (1400-lb) plus two adults (360-lb), one extra battery (55-lb) for the trolling motor, and the trolling motor itself (...) will be only around 1900-lb to 2000-lb. According to the spec shown above, you will only need a trolling motor that can provide 40-lb thrust. If you want a bit more room for calculation error, you will go for a 55-lb thrust model, and that still only needs a 12-volt system. I am under the impression that we can use the trolling motor to bring us back home in case the outboard motor dies as long as we are not that far away from the shore and the current is not strong. This means this is a good idea to get a heavy long run-time deep cycle battery. This costs more; but you only need one for the 12-volt trolling motor anyway. My 18-ft Sea Ray center console is 2260-lb with motor, gas, equipments. Because I start with much heavier weight than yours, I will have to get a 24-volt trolling motor after adding 4 adults, trolling motor and extra batteries. This means I need _two_ 12-volt deep cycle batteries ... ~$$~ No, I haven't got a trolling motor for my boat yet (too cold for working on the boat). Therefore, I cannot give you any personal experience. Jay Chan |
Bow-Mount Trolling Motor Recommendations
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:19:09 -0500, "Ray Bates" wrote: Thanks again, ... and I didn't know that the warranty from Mercury sucked. You do now. :) RCE can speak to engine warranty, but as far as Moto Guide goes, their ain't none. And don't ever expect to get it fixed. My neighbor keeps spare parts for his, and a lot of them, because almost every stinking time we take his boat, which is a much nicer boat than mine, the damned Moto Guide breaks something. When we take my boat, we always joke about how my Minn Kota doesn't break down, I bought it used off of a wrecked boat for 1/3 what his MG cost! |
Bow-Mount Trolling Motor Recommendations
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:19:09 -0500, "Ray Bates" wrote: Thanks again, ... and I didn't know that the warranty from Mercury sucked. You do now. :) RCE can speak to engine warranty, but as far as Moto Guide goes, their ain't none. And don't ever expect to get it fixed. Huh? RCE |
Bow-Mount Trolling Motor Recommendations
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Bow-Mount Trolling Motor Recommendations
Del Cecchi wrote:
wrote: Del Cecchi wrote: wrote: Ray Bates wrote: I'm in process of rigging a new fishing boat (18', wgt approx 1400 lbs incl. boat, motor gas and equipment) and want to put a bow-mounted trolling motor on it. Any recommendations? Are the ones which are wireless controlled a good buy? Minn-kota vs Motor Guide? 12v vs. 24v (I'm a casual fisherman not out there everyday). I've owned Minn-Kota transom mounted motors before and liked them, but have no experience with bow-mounted motors. Anything I should be particularly cautious of? Thanks, Ray Seem like you only need a 12-volt trolling motor. According to Minn-Kota tech support: I am sorry but we do not have a listing that shows what size motor works on which boat. There are just so many different styles of boats out there that it is not possible to maintain that sort of database. I can tell you that each of our motors are designed to push around a certain amount of weight. Our 30 lbs. thrust motors will handle a total boat weight up to around 1500 lbs. Our 40 lbs. thrust motors up to around 2000 lbs. Our 55 lbs. thrust motors up to around 2700 lbs. Our 70 lbs. thrust motors up to around 3500 lbs Our 80 lbs. thrust motors up to around 4000 lbs. The 12 volt systems are up to 55 lbs. thrust. The 24 volt systems would be 70 or 80 lbs. thrust. Seem like your 18-ft boat is very light. The total weight (1400-lb) plus two adults (360-lb), one extra battery (55-lb) for the trolling motor, and the trolling motor itself (...) will be only around 1900-lb to 2000-lb. According to the spec shown above, you will only need a trolling motor that can provide 40-lb thrust. If you want a bit more room for calculation error, you will go for a 55-lb thrust model, and that still only needs a 12-volt system. I am under the impression that we can use the trolling motor to bring us back home in case the outboard motor dies as long as we are not that far away from the shore and the current is not strong. This means this is a good idea to get a heavy long run-time deep cycle battery. This costs more; but you only need one for the 12-volt trolling motor anyway. My 18-ft Sea Ray center console is 2260-lb with motor, gas, equipments. Because I start with much heavier weight than yours, I will have to get a 24-volt trolling motor after adding 4 adults, trolling motor and extra batteries. This means I need _two_ 12-volt deep cycle batteries ... ~$$~ No, I haven't got a trolling motor for my boat yet (too cold for working on the boat). Therefore, I cannot give you any personal experience. Jay Chan I would go with the 24 volt, and I really like the auto pilot/powerdrive feature, or the wireless. I have a minnkota and it is fine. I have the 65 pound one on a lund 18 foot fishing boat. I might get the 70 or 80 next time, although I haven't needed more so far. Also make sure the shaft is long enough for your boat. -- Del Cecchi "This post is my own and doesn't necessarily represent IBM's positions, strategies or opinions." How heavy is your 18-ft Lund boat? Because it is from Lund, I believe it must be an aluminum boat, and must be lighter than a fiberglass boat. Why do you need to upgrade from 65-pound thrust to 80? Is there something that the 65-pound thrust cannot do? I am asking these because I am planning to get a 80-lb thrust trolling motor for my 18-ft fiberglass boat that must be heavier than yours. If you want a 80-lb thrust trolling motor for your 18-ft boat that is lighter than mine, this may suggest that an 80-lb trolling motor "may" not be enough for me. Thanks in advance for any info. Jay Chan It's a 1775 pro vee aluminum which dry is about 1200 lb as I recall. Add gas, live wells, 3 batteries, and a 115 2stroke, and me and it is maybe as much as 2500 lb. I rarely run the trolling motor at full power. But I find fishing in big waves rather unpleasant so I don't do it very often. -- Del Cecchi "This post is my own and doesn't necessarily represent IBM's positions, strategies or opinions." Seem like your boat is more or less the same weight as mine (assuming you weights around 200-lbs) (we both have 115-hp 2-stroke motor). This is odd; I thought aluminum boat is lighter than a fiberglass boat like mine. Anyway, I accept your number as is. Sound like you are not taxing your 80-lbs thrust trolling motor. Great! This means I should also be well served by a 80-lbs thrust trolling motor because our boats weight around the same. Thanks for the good news. Jay Chan |
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