OT--A practical look at the UAE port deal
 

On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:32:59 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:37:04 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:15:26 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


I'm not sure a lot of US citizens understood that their ports have been
run by foreign companies for many years. Which makes it more of a
"horror" if they did.

Administering a port is a difficult task and one that requires a lot of
coordination between shipping companies, port authorities and shipping
agencies. I'm not sure exactly what we can do about it because it's a
specialized type of activity and one that does require expertise.

"Administering a port" may be an exaggeration. Operating a terminal seems
more like it. Apparently, at the six "ports" in question, there are 300
terminals, of which Dubai Ports is going to operate *nine*.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...8/131844.shtml


Personally, I would prefer American companies to run our ports, but,
unfortunately, globalization has seen to that. However, it can be argued
that Americans will still be running these ports.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...E36375,00.html


Thanks for adding a little realism to this discussion.
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'Til next time,

John H

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I thought you just chastised others for their political posts John.

Are the ones you partake in ok but the other ones not?

Giddyup Sheriff.


Ports are definitely on topic in a boating group!
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John H

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OT--A practical look at the UAE port deal
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:32:59 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:37:04 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:15:26 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


I'm not sure a lot of US citizens understood that their ports have
been
run by foreign companies for many years. Which makes it more of a
"horror" if they did.

Administering a port is a difficult task and one that requires a lot
of
coordination between shipping companies, port authorities and shipping
agencies. I'm not sure exactly what we can do about it because it's a
specialized type of activity and one that does require expertise.

"Administering a port" may be an exaggeration. Operating a terminal
seems
more like it. Apparently, at the six "ports" in question, there are 300
terminals, of which Dubai Ports is going to operate *nine*.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...8/131844.shtml


Personally, I would prefer American companies to run our ports, but,
unfortunately, globalization has seen to that. However, it can be
argued
that Americans will still be running these ports.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...E36375,00.html


Thanks for adding a little realism to this discussion.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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I thought you just chastised others for their political posts John.

Are the ones you partake in ok but the other ones not?

Giddyup Sheriff.


Ports are definitely on topic in a boating group!
--
'Til next time,

John H

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This is about the UAE contract, not the ports in general. Nice try.

Giddyup!

OT--A practical look at the UAE port deal
 

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:48:16 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:24:00 -0500 in rec.boats, JohnH penned the
following thoughts:



Gene, what is it that you fear the Dubai folks would allow through our
ports?

Rather than guess at what specifically might go amiss.... why don't we
just look at the obvious. We're bringing a group of foreign nationals
from the heartland of al Queda to run operations at major ports.

What better chance would there be for an operative to spy on anything
and everything physically available to them? And then there is that
chance of tacit approval of terrorism.

Do you think that no employee of UAE (or any other country in close
proximity to al Queda) is going to get a missive much like this?
http://www.ctc.usma.edu/aq/AFGP-2002-603856-Trans.pdf

How far would YOU go to protect your family against those terrorists
in your home country?

Any attempt to put the fox in charge of the hen house is bad. Period.
And no spin will ever make it otherwise.

All well and good, but you didn't answer the question. Terrorists could be
anywhere, and unless we begin some severe racial profiling we won't be able
to keep them out of the country.

I've been on the Dundalk Marine Terminal in Baltimore several times. I
could have been a spy. Hell, there are overhead photos available all over
the net. P&O operate some of the berths at that terminal, but they surely
don't run the operations of the Port of Baltimore.

The fear is that a nuke or other WMD may enter through a port, in a
container. The fact is that once the container is in the port, it's too
late.

I'd hate to see us lose the Port of Baltimore. Beautiful place and nice for
boating.
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John H

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OT--A practical look at the UAE port deal
 

On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:53:10 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:32:59 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:37:04 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:15:26 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


I'm not sure a lot of US citizens understood that their ports have
been
run by foreign companies for many years. Which makes it more of a
"horror" if they did.

Administering a port is a difficult task and one that requires a lot
of
coordination between shipping companies, port authorities and shipping
agencies. I'm not sure exactly what we can do about it because it's a
specialized type of activity and one that does require expertise.

"Administering a port" may be an exaggeration. Operating a terminal
seems
more like it. Apparently, at the six "ports" in question, there are 300
terminals, of which Dubai Ports is going to operate *nine*.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...8/131844.shtml


Personally, I would prefer American companies to run our ports, but,
unfortunately, globalization has seen to that. However, it can be
argued
that Americans will still be running these ports.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...E36375,00.html


Thanks for adding a little realism to this discussion.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

I thought you just chastised others for their political posts John.

Are the ones you partake in ok but the other ones not?

Giddyup Sheriff.


Ports are definitely on topic in a boating group!
--
'Til next time,

John H

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This is about the UAE contract, not the ports in general. Nice try.

Giddyup!


No, it's about port operations, terminal operations, port security, 'giving
away ports, and other terms that are thrown around without regard to
meaning.
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'Til next time,

John H

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