On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:28:16 +0000, Don White wrote:

There's been a bit of talk about 'Master & Commander' and "capt
Hornblower' off & on here. Meet the original.....
http://www.herald.ns.ca/Search/483801.html

"Master and Commander" covers chapter 2 (approximately) of a
Cochrane biography I read a few years ago...

/Martin

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:49:15 +0100, Martin Schöön
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:28:16 +0000, Don White wrote:

There's been a bit of talk about 'Master & Commander' and "capt
Hornblower' off & on here. Meet the original.....
http://www.herald.ns.ca/Search/483801.html

"Master and Commander" covers chapter 2 (approximately) of a
Cochrane biography I read a few years ago...

/Martin

Are you referring to the movie or the book?
--
'Til next time,

John H

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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:28:39 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:49:15 +0100, Martin Schöön
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:28:16 +0000, Don White wrote:

There's been a bit of talk about 'Master & Commander' and "capt
Hornblower' off & on here. Meet the original.....
http://www.herald.ns.ca/Search/483801.html

"Master and Commander" covers chapter 2 (approximately) of a
Cochrane biography I read a few years ago...

/Martin

Are you referring to the movie or the book?

The book!

The film has very little in common with the book apart from
the title. As bad as it gets IMHO.

/Martin

On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:30:31 +0100, Martin Schöön
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:28:39 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:49:15 +0100, Martin Schöön
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:28:16 +0000, Don White wrote:

There's been a bit of talk about 'Master & Commander' and "capt
Hornblower' off & on here. Meet the original.....
http://www.herald.ns.ca/Search/483801.html

"Master and Commander" covers chapter 2 (approximately) of a
Cochrane biography I read a few years ago...

/Martin

Are you referring to the movie or the book?

The book!

The film has very little in common with the book apart from
the title. As bad as it gets IMHO.

/Martin

I'd have to go back and see the movie again, but I think it was taken from
a few parts of several of the Aubrey series.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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This is an interesting post as there is a wierd psuedo-biography
(forget the author) of Hornblower written as a real biography. In
fact, I found it in the non-fiction section of the library and it
puzzled me. It seems to have been copied after Cochranes real life.

On 20 Feb 2006 17:56:55 -0800, "
wrote:

This is an interesting post as there is a wierd psuedo-biography
(forget the author) of Hornblower written as a real biography. In
fact, I found it in the non-fiction section of the library and it
puzzled me. It seems to have been copied after Cochranes real life.

To what post are you referring?
--
'Til next time,

John H

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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:20:34 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:30:31 +0100, Martin Schöön
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:28:39 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:49:15 +0100, Martin Schöön
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:28:16 +0000, Don White wrote:

There's been a bit of talk about 'Master & Commander' and "capt
Hornblower' off & on here. Meet the original.....
http://www.herald.ns.ca/Search/483801.html

"Master and Commander" covers chapter 2 (approximately) of a
Cochrane biography I read a few years ago...

/Martin

Are you referring to the movie or the book?

The book!

The film has very little in common with the book apart from
the title. As bad as it gets IMHO.

/Martin

I'd have to go back and see the movie again, but I think
it was taken from a few parts of several of the Aubrey series.

I recognised maybe two details from "Master and Commander" (the only
in the series I have read) and all the rest was pure Hollywood
as far as I could see. The main characters were so badly changed
that nothing of what is in the book was left.

And then you have things like that British and French naval units
never fought in the Pacific during the Napoleonic era or when they
play music together at the end of the film it is a piece that
was written much later in the 19th century. Just to pick
two nits.

My main problems with the film are really how one-dimensional
they managed to make the main characters and how they turned a rather
exciting, action-packed novel into not so exciting, pasteurised
Hollywood product.

Sorry for the rant.

/Martin

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:12:40 +0100, Martin Schöön
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:20:34 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:30:31 +0100, Martin Schöön
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:28:39 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:49:15 +0100, Martin Schöön
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:28:16 +0000, Don White wrote:

There's been a bit of talk about 'Master & Commander' and "capt
Hornblower' off & on here. Meet the original.....
http://www.herald.ns.ca/Search/483801.html

"Master and Commander" covers chapter 2 (approximately) of a
Cochrane biography I read a few years ago...

/Martin

Are you referring to the movie or the book?

The book!

The film has very little in common with the book apart from
the title. As bad as it gets IMHO.

/Martin

I'd have to go back and see the movie again, but I think
it was taken from a few parts of several of the Aubrey series.

I recognised maybe two details from "Master and Commander" (the only
in the series I have read) and all the rest was pure Hollywood
as far as I could see. The main characters were so badly changed
that nothing of what is in the book was left.

And then you have things like that British and French naval units
never fought in the Pacific during the Napoleonic era or when they
play music together at the end of the film it is a piece that
was written much later in the 19th century. Just to pick
two nits.

My main problems with the film are really how one-dimensional
they managed to make the main characters and how they turned a rather
exciting, action-packed novel into not so exciting, pasteurised
Hollywood product.

Sorry for the rant.

/Martin

In the series there are several interactions between the British and the
French in the Pacific. I'm finishing the series now. It's great. I only
wish there were another fifteen or so books to go. I'm starting the
Hornblower series next. Learning a lot about ships of that era.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:05:25 -0500, JohnH wrote:
snip

In the series there are several interactions between the British and the
French in the Pacific.

Not Spanish?
That was the case for the real guy: Cochrane.

/Martin

Around 2/21/2006 1:12 PM, Martin Schöön wrote:

My main problems with the film are really how one-dimensional
they managed to make the main characters and how they turned a rather
exciting, action-packed novel into not so exciting, pasteurised
Hollywood product.

Just which movie were you watching, anyway? It can't be the same version
of "Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World" that's sitting on my
DVD shelf...

Read the entire series, in order. I think you'll find that, although
some plot sacrifices were made for the sake of the medium, almost every
shot of the movie was lifted directly from one of the books or another.
The level of detail in both the visual and sound effects are nothing
short of breathtaking; It's one of the few movies I've ever seen that
holds up to *frequent* repeated viewings.

The characters may have come across as one-dimensional, but that's
almost exactly how they're portrayed in the later books, when both
Aubrey and Maturin are older and more set in their ways. If you've only
read M&C, you've only read about the younger, more vibrant versions of
those characters.


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