PFD's for ALL boaters in Maryland.
 

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:13:22 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:


Actually, I've been thinking of wearing an inflatable PFD at all times on
board.

I don't know, Harry. We seem to always cross the line from good ideas, to
good laws. Wearing a PFD is a good idea, I'm not sure it's a good law.

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What are your thoughts on this stupid law being enacted by the
Democrat-controlled legislature?


It's too early in the day for your baiting tactics. You know full well
that this legislation has nothing to do with party politics.

No? Then name for me a Republican-controlled legislature that is
considering a similar law.


That's a ridiculous thing to say, and you're in some sort of ****ed up mood.
So, no.

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What are your thoughts on this stupid law being enacted by the
Democrat-controlled legislature?


It's too early in the day for your baiting tactics. You know full well
that this legislation has nothing to do with party politics.

No? Then name for me a Republican-controlled legislature that is
considering a similar law.


That's a ridiculous thing to say, and you're in some sort of ****ed up
mood.

LOL.

So, no.

crickets chirping as Doug tries to think of a similar bill being
considered by a Republican-controlled legislature.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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What are your thoughts on this stupid law being enacted by the
Democrat-controlled legislature?


It's too early in the day for your baiting tactics. You know full well
that this legislation has nothing to do with party politics.

No? Then name for me a Republican-controlled legislature that is
considering a similar law.


That's a ridiculous thing to say, and you're in some sort of ****ed up
mood.

LOL.

So, no.

crickets chirping as Doug tries to think of a similar bill being
considered by a Republican-controlled legislature.

A bill like that is similar to those introduced to deal with child
molesters. They're almost ALWAYS a response to some sort of high-visibility
mishap, and are just as likely to be introduced in an Republican
legislature.

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On 17 Feb 2006 08:41:13 -0800, wrote:



http://www.townhall.com/opinion/colu...17/186976.html


I can remember when Md was "the free state". I guess those days are
long gone.

I notice they don't have an upper limit on the size of the boat. I
guess the QE 2 will never go to Baltimore. Can you imagine making all
those rich people wear PFDs in the chow line and even when they are
sitting in their cabins.
How about the president and his party out on the sequoia?
The crew of navy ships when they stray into the bay?
The government is clearly out of control.


Whenever I hear the phrase, the "Dumbing of America" *this* is the stuff
that comes to my mind.
You *will* conform, you *will* do as we say, or you *will* pay the price
that *we* decide upon.


RCE (back to "discussing" a few things with Sam)

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What are your thoughts on this stupid law being enacted by the
Democrat-controlled legislature?


It's too early in the day for your baiting tactics. You know full
well that this legislation has nothing to do with party politics.

No? Then name for me a Republican-controlled legislature that is
considering a similar law.


That's a ridiculous thing to say, and you're in some sort of ****ed
up mood.

LOL.

So, no.

crickets chirping as Doug tries to think of a similar bill being
considered by a Republican-controlled legislature.

A bill like that is similar to those introduced to deal with child
molesters. They're almost ALWAYS a response to some sort of
high-visibility mishap, and are just as likely to be introduced in an
Republican legislature.

I think you'd have fared better letting the crickets continue to chirp
rather than equating boaters to child molesters.

Yeah, but you know what I mean. If a kid gets killed because a toaster falls
into a sink of water, and he reaches in to get it, you're gonna see
legislation about toasters' cords being too long, so new ones will have a 1
foot cord instead of the 18" stupid cords some of them have now.

PFD's for ALL boaters in Maryland.
 

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:59:00 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:13:22 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:


Actually, I've been thinking of wearing an inflatable PFD at all times on
board.

I don't know, Harry. We seem to always cross the line from good ideas, to
good laws. Wearing a PFD is a good idea, I'm not sure it's a good law.


I consider these kinds of laws in the light of my personal inconvenience.

I do not find it inconvenient to wear a seatbelt in my vehicles, or a
helmet when I ride a motorcycle.

It isn't inconvenient for me to wear an inflatable flotation device
while boating.

I often agree with you Harry on a lot of issues, but this one doesn't
make sense.
Think of it...no pfd required while swimming...so.....

You could take off your pfd and jump in the water, but then be
required by law to put it back on when you get back in the boat???

It just doesn't make sense. They have the law in Massachusetts
requiring children to wear pfd's, but I think it's good to stop there.

John C.

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On 17 Feb 2006 08:41:13 -0800, wrote:



http://www.townhall.com/opinion/colu...17/186976.html


I can remember when Md was "the free state". I guess those days are
long gone.

I notice they don't have an upper limit on the size of the boat. I
guess the QE 2 will never go to Baltimore. Can you imagine making all
those rich people wear PFDs in the chow line and even when they are
sitting in their cabins.
How about the president and his party out on the sequoia?
The crew of navy ships when they stray into the bay?
The government is clearly out of control.



Whenever I hear the phrase, the "Dumbing of America" *this* is the stuff
that comes to my mind.
You *will* conform, you *will* do as we say, or you *will* pay the price
that *we* decide upon.


RCE (back to "discussing" a few things with Sam)




Totally agree that compulsion over personal stuff is wrong, but the
trouble is there are so many nuff nuffs around we all suffer. When they
come unstuck we all get lumbered with the bill. Whether it's hugely
expensive & dangerous to the rescuers searches, often when it's well
clear it's just to recover the bodies at best, so the family can feel
better. Or we get stuck with the medical costs of trying to fix them.

This PFD wearing seems to be the new "thing" though, this is our first
season since our new law has applied (& the water police are red hot on
enforcement).

Here downunder the basic law is;
anyone on board, any age etc
Any boat underway &
Under 4.6 mtrs (16ft)&
while on open deck (if inside a cabin not required)

Boats over 4.6 but under 12mtrs (39.3ft)
don't need to wear unless certain things are happening, like crossing a
bar, out in a gale warning, or on board alone etc etc there's a few of them.

So mostly the laws don't bother boats bigger than a runabout & boats
over 12mtrs are exempt.

Here we don't have the piers, wharves, berths you have so use our
dinghies lots & I can tell you having to don a jacket every time I get
in the dinghie is a total pain in the arse!!! It's obviously a hot place
& they're hot, really hot.

At the same time they brought this law in they increased out fire
extinguisher sizes (I had to get 2 X 4.5KG dry powder, expensive!!!!
because fuel capacity exceeds 350ltrs) & removed the flare exemption
from protected waters, bays, lakes etc.

I hate intrusion as you do but if they're elected I guess that's
democracy at work. No denying seat belts, crash helmets for bikes etc
have saved lives (not mine) so .......................... :-(

K

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Fred Dehl wrote:

Please take your negative comments, and childish insults elsewhere.
Rec.boats has once again become a decent place where you can find
information about boats and boating. Also, because of the lack of nasty
little insults, etc., most don't mind a little kidding. A few months
ago, because it was so volatile, that would result in hundreds of
negative posts.

Fred:

What is a ational and normal sounding persons like yourself doing here?
My first post a few days ago attracted noting but one liner insults.

good on mate.
Bob

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"K. Smith" wrote in message
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No denying seat belts, crash helmets for bikes etc have saved lives (not
mine) so .......................... :-(

K


Huh? YOU'RE DEAD?

RCE