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Calif Bill February 9th 06 06:35 AM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay, Oregon
during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html



Skipper February 9th 06 07:13 AM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Calif Bill wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay, Oregon
during a storm.


http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


That illustrates rather nicely why West Coast designed boats are far
more seaworthy than those the East Coast wussies use on their local
waters. Takes a real man to navigate the West Coast.

Yup, that ol' well designed 2252 handled such inlets with ease. But
then, of coarse, it was designed for and on those waters. I know
Bayliners are very popular as fishing platforms by the guides in Alaska
and was a bit disappointed we didn't see a few of them running that
inlet. Perhaps their runs were not just dramatic enough. Oh well, at
least them eastern dudes can don their commodore caps and navigate the
mighty waters the Chesapeake and Floriduh...on weekends.

--
Skipper

Skipper February 9th 06 12:32 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

Skipper wrote:


That illustrates rather nicely why West Coast designed boats are far
more seaworthy than those the East Coast wussies use on their local
waters. Takes a real man to navigate the West Coast.


takes a pansy is more like it.


Run that by the Alaskan crabbers and see how it flies, Sporty.

--
Skipper

Reggie Smithers February 9th 06 12:42 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:35:22 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay, Oregon
during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


i cant stop watching that - its amazing.

espiecally that coastie running around in the background in that
double ender.

damn thats fun to watch.


Did you notice that it looked like some of the boats were heading out to
sea, and the coastie turned them around? One boat "surfed" into the bay
on a wave. It looked like he was out of control, and God was the only
thing between him and Davey Jones Locker.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

[email protected] February 9th 06 12:45 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

Skipper wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay, Oregon
during a storm.


http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


That illustrates rather nicely why West Coast designed boats are far
more seaworthy than those the East Coast wussies use on their local
waters. Takes a real man to navigate the West Coast.

Yup, that ol' well designed 2252 handled such inlets with ease. But
then, of coarse, it was designed for and on those waters. I know
Bayliners are very popular as fishing platforms by the guides in Alaska
and was a bit disappointed we didn't see a few of them running that
inlet. Perhaps their runs were not just dramatic enough. Oh well, at
least them eastern dudes can don their commodore caps and navigate the
mighty waters the Chesapeake and Floriduh...on weekends.

--
Skipper


How about those treacherous Kansas ditches?


Wayne.B February 9th 06 12:57 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:13:31 -0600, Snipper wrote:

Takes a real Mann to navigate the West Coast.


So what are the plans for your next big adventure on I-35 ?


Reggie Smithers February 9th 06 01:18 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:32:27 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

Skipper wrote:
That illustrates rather nicely why West Coast designed boats are far
more seaworthy than those the East Coast wussies use on their local
waters. Takes a real man to navigate the West Coast.
takes a pansy is more like it.
Run that by the Alaskan crabbers and see how it flies, Sporty.


speaking as some one who actually lives on a coast line, unlike
certain others, im more than familiar with what it takes to run an
inlet like that.



Snipper's never run an inlet anything like that, and neither has anyone
else in a 22' Bayliner.

Bayliners are a great boat for the proper conditions. I would not
recommend any of the "family boats" for conditions like that.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Skipper February 9th 06 01:25 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Bayliners are a great boat for the proper conditions. I would not
recommend any of the "family boats" for conditions like that.


Do you have *any* experience operating a 2252 Bayliner? Neither does
Krause.

--
Skipper

Reggie Smithers February 9th 06 01:30 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Skipper wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Bayliners are a great boat for the proper conditions. I would not
recommend any of the "family boats" for conditions like that.


Do you have *any* experience operating a 2252 Bayliner? Neither does
Krause.

--
Skipper

Skipper,
No I do not. I did not say that it could not be done. I said I would
not recommend any of the boats designed for family recreational boating
for this kind of inlet. I did not limit my comment to Bayliner or any
specific brand of boat.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Wayne.B February 9th 06 02:27 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:47:44 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

notice that one that almost rolled? he stayed put for a minute
waiting to catch the wave cycle in a more calm state.

either that or he had to restart his motor.


Or change his underwear.


Don White February 9th 06 03:01 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Skipper wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay, Oregon
during a storm.



http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html



That illustrates rather nicely why West Coast designed boats are far
more seaworthy than those the East Coast wussies use on their local
waters. *Takes a real man to navigate the West Coast.*

snip..

And this is why you're hiding out in Derby, Kansas...??

[email protected] February 9th 06 05:51 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:27:42 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:47:44 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

notice that one that almost rolled? he stayed put for a minute
waiting to catch the wave cycle in a more calm state.

either that or he had to restart his motor.


Or change his underwear.


rotfl!!!

yeah - that had potential to make a few railroad tracks alright.


you mean racing stripes?!!!!


Wayne.B February 9th 06 06:25 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:58:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

It's an aerial shot a park person took.
Matanzas Inlet, just south of St. Augustine, FL.
Closed to navigation...the bridge is fixed and low.


We went right by there on out trip south last November, staying
between 1/4 and 1/2 mile offshore. Interesting area, seen from the
water.


Calif Bill February 9th 06 06:32 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:35:22 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay,
Oregon
during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


out freakin' standing, bill - amazing movie.

thanks for posting that.


A comment from a guy I know who used to fish out of Depoe bay regarding the
video.

"FWIW, most of that video is 3 - 5 years old. If you're talking about the
"Prime Time" out of Depoe, it's a 43 ft Delta. At one time there were 6 or 7
43 Deltas there.....the preferred boat for that harbor.

What most of the video doesn't show very well is that....there is an 'S'
turn in the hole. So it is critical to avoid getting picked up by a big
swell when going through the turn, as short as it is.

There is a saying up here...

"There are two kinds of skippers in Depoe Bay. Those who have hit the rocks,
and those who will hit the rocks."
"



Calif Bill February 9th 06 06:34 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
Skipper wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Bayliners are a great boat for the proper conditions. I would not
recommend any of the "family boats" for conditions like that.


Do you have *any* experience operating a 2252 Bayliner? Neither does
Krause.

--
Skipper

Skipper,
No I do not. I did not say that it could not be done. I said I would not
recommend any of the boats designed for family recreational boating for
this kind of inlet. I did not limit my comment to Bayliner or any
specific brand of boat.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************


The inlet is not always that bad. You pick your days. Guy I fish with at
times, his dad ran a 53' commercial boat out of Depoe and he fished out of a
22' boat (Marlin I think).



Calif Bill February 9th 06 06:36 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:42:46 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:35:22 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay,
Oregon
during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


i cant stop watching that - its amazing.

espiecally that coastie running around in the background in that
double ender.

damn thats fun to watch.


Did you notice that it looked like some of the boats were heading out to
sea, and the coastie turned them around? One boat "surfed" into the bay
on a wave. It looked like he was out of control, and God was the only
thing between him and Davey Jones Locker.


i think it was more like they were waiting on sea conditions to get a
little more stable before shooting the gap.

notice that one that almost rolled? he stayed put for a minute
waiting to catch the wave cycle in a more calm state.

either that or he had to restart his motor.

i thought that bayliner almost crashing was pretty funny.

bayliner - get a real boat.


I think the one boat had to restart his motor. And luckily he did. Amazing
is how the CG boat took those swells.



Wayne.B February 9th 06 08:05 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:35:03 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Next time you are in the area (Jax-St. Augustine), stop at Marker 33
Restaurant in Jax, right on the ICW, and the Conch House Restaurant in
St. Augustinne, right off the ICW down Salt Run. Both are worth the stop.


I'll keep that in mind. We ran outside except for a quick in and out
at St Augestine for the night, but perhaps next time the weather
outside will be less favorable.


Netsock February 9th 06 08:28 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 05:43:31 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Yes, well that lets you and your p.o.s. little Bayliner out, eh?


At least he has a boat.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Netsock February 9th 06 08:29 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:47:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Snipper's never run an inlet anything like that, and neither has anyone
else in a 22' Bayliner.


How's the trim doing in the 65 knot Parker Harry? How many hundredths
of a seconds have you shaved off thus far?
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Netsock February 9th 06 08:30 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:09:05 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

A boating adventure to Overland Park?

If he makes it all the way to KC, MO, there's a nicely paved portion of
riverbed near the Country Club Shopping Plaza, perfectly suitable for a
boater of Snipper's vast experience.


Any boating experience, is more than you will ever have Krause.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

RCE February 9th 06 08:59 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:35:03 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Next time you are in the area (Jax-St. Augustine), stop at Marker 33
Restaurant in Jax, right on the ICW, and the Conch House Restaurant in
St. Augustinne, right off the ICW down Salt Run. Both are worth the
stop.


I'll keep that in mind. We ran outside except for a quick in and out
at St Augestine for the night, but perhaps next time the weather
outside will be less favorable.



Well, the Conch House is about two miles inside that inlet, on Salt Run.
Mind the markers.

Actually, it is a pleasant run down the ICW from Jax to St. Augustine, or
vice versa. Beautiful marsh scenery for the most part, lots of flora and
fauna, an easy run.


We stayed one night at the marina at the Conch House Restaurant (and enjoyed
a great dinner there). The only problem is that it was a miserable, cloudy
and foggy day. The channel into the marina is well marked, but weaves
around a bit as I recall.

I remember that night well because my brother and I finally found the answer
to the mysterious "snap, crackle pop" sounds I was hearing down in the
engine compartment. The sounds had been slowly getting louder every day
since around Norfolk. We discovered that most of the other boats at the
marina were also cracking and popping if you put your ear to the hull. A
local at the restaurant finally explained the mystery - it is biological
noises - shrimp and other small creatures snacking on whatever was on the
hulls.

RCE



NOYB February 9th 06 09:13 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:35:22 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay,
Oregon
during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


i cant stop watching that - its amazing.

espiecally that coastie running around in the background in that
double ender.

damn thats fun to watch.


Here's another fun one:

http://media.putfile.com/sea95



Reggie Smithers February 9th 06 09:30 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:35:22 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay,
Oregon
during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html

i cant stop watching that - its amazing.

espiecally that coastie running around in the background in that
double ender.

damn thats fun to watch.


Here's another fun one:

http://media.putfile.com/sea95


Damn.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

JohnH February 9th 06 11:30 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:13:42 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:35:22 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay,
Oregon
during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


i cant stop watching that - its amazing.

espiecally that coastie running around in the background in that
double ender.

damn thats fun to watch.


Here's another fun one:

http://media.putfile.com/sea95


I couldn't get the first one to work. That one was spectacular. Thanks!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

NOYB February 10th 06 03:00 AM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:13:42 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:35:22 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay,
Oregon
during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


i cant stop watching that - its amazing.

espiecally that coastie running around in the background in that
double ender.

damn thats fun to watch.


Here's another fun one:

http://media.putfile.com/sea95


if i had to do it all over again, id do that.

that looks like fun.


That kind of stuff is in my blood too.



Skipper February 10th 06 03:13 AM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Harry Krause wrote:

Agreed. Some of the "mostest" fun I had in Florida was running the local
inlets.


Gotta do sompin when them local waters are fished out. But then thar's
always grits 'n grunts at the local eatery.

--
Skipper

Don White February 10th 06 04:18 AM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:


Agreed. Some of the "mostest" fun I had in Florida was running the local
inlets.



Gotta do sompin when them local waters are fished out. But then thar's
always grits 'n grunts at the local eatery.

--
Skipper



...and worms & golphers out in your fields.

Skipper February 10th 06 04:34 AM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Don White wrote:

Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:


Agreed. Some of the "mostest" fun I had in Florida was running the local
inlets.


Gotta do sompin when them local waters are fished out. But then thar's
always grits 'n grunts at the local eatery.


..and worms & golphers out in your fields.


Still play to a 7. You? Hey, that thar West Coast coarse they're playing
on this week ain't bad, eh? You played on one like that?

--
Skipper

Calif Bill February 10th 06 06:10 AM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:13:42 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:35:22 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay,
Oregon
during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


i cant stop watching that - its amazing.

espiecally that coastie running around in the background in that
double ender.

damn thats fun to watch.


Here's another fun one:

http://media.putfile.com/sea95


I couldn't get the first one to work. That one was spectacular. Thanks!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


The first one will take at least 5 minutes to download even with DSL.



JohnH February 10th 06 01:30 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 04:18:41 GMT, Don White wrote:

Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:


Agreed. Some of the "mostest" fun I had in Florida was running the local
inlets.



Gotta do sompin when them local waters are fished out. But then thar's
always grits 'n grunts at the local eatery.

--
Skipper



..and worms & golphers out in your fields.


Don, help us out here...delete Skipper's trolls from your responses to
them.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH February 10th 06 01:35 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:10:02 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:13:42 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:35:22 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay,
Oregon
during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


i cant stop watching that - its amazing.

espiecally that coastie running around in the background in that
double ender.

damn thats fun to watch.

Here's another fun one:

http://media.putfile.com/sea95


I couldn't get the first one to work. That one was spectacular. Thanks!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


The first one will take at least 5 minutes to download even with DSL.


For me, the site opens, the windows media screen appears, and
'transferring data...' shows up in the status bar on the bottom. After a
few minutes, the word 'Done' appears, but nothing happens. Could it be
Mozilla?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Doug Kanter February 10th 06 08:02 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay,
Oregon during a storm.
http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html



My son watched the video and asked, "What's the big deal?" This is why 16
year old kids shouldn't be allowed to drive boats.



Skipper February 10th 06 08:14 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Doug Kanter wrote:

http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


My son watched the video and asked, "What's the big deal?" This is why 16
year old kids shouldn't be allowed to drive boats.


More likely symptomatic of heredity than age in your son's case, Doug.

--
Skipper

Doug Kanter February 10th 06 08:22 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:

http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


My son watched the video and asked, "What's the big deal?" This is why 16
year old kids shouldn't be allowed to drive boats.


More likely symptomatic of heredity than age in your son's case, Doug.


Stop using words you don't understand. Like "in", "more", and "of".



Skipper February 10th 06 08:30 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Skipper" wrote...


http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


My son watched the video and asked, "What's the big deal?" This is why 16
year old kids shouldn't be allowed to drive boats.


More likely symptomatic of heredity than age in your son's case, Doug.


Stop using words you don't understand. Like "in", "more", and "of".


It's ever so easy getting Dems flummoxed.

--
Skipper

Doug Kanter February 10th 06 08:38 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Skipper" wrote...


http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


My son watched the video and asked, "What's the big deal?" This is why
16
year old kids shouldn't be allowed to drive boats.


More likely symptomatic of heredity than age in your son's case, Doug.


Stop using words you don't understand. Like "in", "more", and "of".


It's ever so easy getting Dems flummoxed.


Ahem. This from the child who thinks he has a .357 with a "safety".



[email protected] February 10th 06 09:13 PM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

Skipper wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:

Only for high speed internet. 5 minutes probably on DSL. Depot Bay, Oregon
during a storm.


http://www.justkeepfishing.com/Depoestrom.html


That illustrates rather nicely why West Coast designed boats are far
more seaworthy than those the East Coast wussies use on their local
waters. Takes a real man to navigate the West Coast.

Skipper


Those that routinmly fish the 4 east coast inlets with USCG Surf
Stations are still wondering why this was a problem. It wasn't even
breaking surf!


NOYB February 11th 06 12:32 AM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

"Sir Spamalot" wrote in message
...
Looks like a sunny Sunday afternoon at the mouth of the Manasquan.


I used to go through that inlet in a 13' Whaler. Manasquan wasn't so bad.
Barnegat was much worse.




UglyDan®©™ February 11th 06 02:21 AM

You think your inlet is bad?
 
(NOYB)wrote
I used to go through that inlet in a 13' Whaler. Manasquan wasn't so
bad. Barnegat was much worse.

Sure you can run a 13' whaler or whatever in/out of Manasquan, but that
doesn't mean it isn't a nasty inlet at times. Back in Dec '84, I watched
a 90' offshore Scalloper try to run that same inlet in a nor'easter and
broach, The idiot killed 4 of his crew.
I also remember the coxwain (friend of mine) of the CG 41300 UTB that
had a really lousy nite back in July '79, One second he was in the
trough and the next he was sitting on top of the jetty, Other than the
shafts, struts, wheels, and a bruised ego,.. no harm no foul. Had to use
a barge and crane on one of those "Whaler Days" to get her off. UD





NOYB February 11th 06 02:40 AM

You think your inlet is bad?
 

""UglyDan®©T"" wrote in message
...
(NOYB)wrote
I used to go through that inlet in a 13' Whaler. Manasquan wasn't so
bad. Barnegat was much worse.

Sure you can run a 13' whaler or whatever in/out of Manasquan, but that
doesn't mean it isn't a nasty inlet at times. Back in Dec '84, I watched
a 90' offshore Scalloper try to run that same inlet in a nor'easter and
broach, The idiot killed 4 of his crew.



Any inlet can be bad on an outgoing tide when the wind is blowing onshore.




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