Stones ...
 

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE

Stones ...
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 20:20:43 -0500, "RCE" wrote:



These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because of
the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

hard to believe huh?

For a guy born in 1943? You betcha. He's got the body and energy of a 35
year old.

RCE

Stones ...
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...


These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the "Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


That's the band's fault. Any band that has the desire and the budget can
bring in whatever equipment they want and make almost any hall sound good.
The Stones have never really cared much about their sound. The Dead, on the
other hand, were able to produce breathtaking sound back in the early 1970s,
simply by trying, and hooking up with the appropriate sound geeks (a company
named Alembic, which is still around).

The knowledge has been passed on to bands like String Cheese Incident, who
does a fantastic job with their sound, even in outdoor locations, which are
usually difficult. They have no shows scheduled at the moment, but check in
the spring and see if they're going to be near you:

www.stringcheeseincident.com

Stones ...
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"RCE" wrote in message
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These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the "Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


That's the band's fault. Any band that has the desire and the budget can
bring in whatever equipment they want and make almost any hall sound good.
The Stones have never really cared much about their sound. The Dead, on
the other hand, were able to produce breathtaking sound back in the early
1970s, simply by trying, and hooking up with the appropriate sound geeks
(a company named Alembic, which is still around).

The knowledge has been passed on to bands like String Cheese Incident, who
does a fantastic job with their sound, even in outdoor locations, which
are usually difficult. They have no shows scheduled at the moment, but
check in the spring and see if they're going to be near you:

www.stringcheeseincident.com


You may be right. My son saw James Taylor at the Fleet Center and said it
was fantastic.
The Stones play too loud.

Hey .... did youse guys know that they actually introduce a low level of
distortion (called dither) to CD recordings in order to make them sound
good? Without it, low volume passages on CDs would be noticeably distorted
because of the low digital sampling rate. More useless information.

RCE

Stones ...
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 20:51:21 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

Hey .... did youse guys know that they actually introduce a low level of
distortion (called dither) to CD recordings in order to make them sound
good? Without it, low volume passages on CDs would be noticeably
distorted
because of the low digital sampling rate. More useless information

didnt know that...

and now you do. Ain't wrecked.boats wonderful?

RCE

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"RCE" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"RCE" wrote in message
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These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the "Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible
because of the disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


That's the band's fault. Any band that has the desire and the budget can
bring in whatever equipment they want and make almost any hall sound
good. The Stones have never really cared much about their sound. The
Dead, on the other hand, were able to produce breathtaking sound back in
the early 1970s, simply by trying, and hooking up with the appropriate
sound geeks (a company named Alembic, which is still around).

The knowledge has been passed on to bands like String Cheese Incident,
who does a fantastic job with their sound, even in outdoor locations,
which are usually difficult. They have no shows scheduled at the moment,
but check in the spring and see if they're going to be near you:

www.stringcheeseincident.com


You may be right. My son saw James Taylor at the Fleet Center and said it
was fantastic.
The Stones play too loud.

Hey .... did youse guys know that they actually introduce a low level of
distortion (called dither) to CD recordings in order to make them sound
good? Without it, low volume passages on CDs would be noticeably
distorted because of the low digital sampling rate. More useless
information.

RCE

That's amazing. I'm gonna go tell Carmela about that. She's my cat. She was
trying to tell me something earlier today, and she wouldn't shut up. She had
food, she'd been played with, petted, brushed, and her litter box was
spotless, so it must've been something about CD recording technology. What
else could it have been?

Stones ...
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 20:51:21 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

Hey .... did youse guys know that they actually introduce a low level of
distortion (called dither) to CD recordings in order to make them sound
good? Without it, low volume passages on CDs would be noticeably
distorted
because of the low digital sampling rate. More useless information

didnt know that...

http://amos.indiana.edu/library/scripts/dither.html


RCE

Stones ...
 

"RCE" wrote in message
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These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the "Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE

I saw their first last US concert 25 years ago in Hampton Va. It was a great
four hour show with George Thourgood and the Destroyers opening.

Stones ...
 

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:06:02 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

Without it, low volume passages on CDs would be noticeably
distorted
because of the low digital sampling rate. More useless information

Reading the description it sounds more like a way of compensating for
the lack of sufficient dynamic range at the low end of the volume
scale. By introducing some random background noise you ensure that
the sound level never goes all the way to zero if I'm understanding
this correctly.

Stones ...
 

RCE wrote:
These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE

You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.

Stones ...
 

Around 2/5/2006 9:08 PM, wrote:

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.

Maybe that's part of the problem - not nearly enough drugs and booze
before the performance as in the good ol' days. :)


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats." -- Kenneth Grahame
~~ Ventis secundis, tene cursum ~~

Stones ...
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:06:02 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

Without it, low volume passages on CDs would be noticeably
distorted
because of the low digital sampling rate. More useless information

Reading the description it sounds more like a way of compensating for
the lack of sufficient dynamic range at the low end of the volume
scale. By introducing some random background noise you ensure that
the sound level never goes all the way to zero if I'm understanding
this correctly.


Yes. Here's a much better explanation with some audio examples: (scroll
down through the text a bit)

http://www.mtsu.edu/~dsmitche/rim420...20_Dither.html

RCE

Stones ...
 

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 02:18:09 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:06:02 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

Without it, low volume passages on CDs would be noticeably
distorted
because of the low digital sampling rate. More useless information

Reading the description it sounds more like a way of compensating for
the lack of sufficient dynamic range at the low end of the volume
scale. By introducing some random background noise you ensure that
the sound level never goes all the way to zero if I'm understanding
this correctly.


Yes. Here's a much better explanation with some audio examples: (scroll
down through the text a bit)

http://www.mtsu.edu/~dsmitche/rim420...20_Dither.html

Interesting, learn something new everyday, even when not on a boat!

Stones ...
 

RCE wrote:
These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE

Agreed. There was some damned fine guitar licks in their halftime
performance.

Stones ...
 

RCE wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 20:51:21 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

Hey .... did youse guys know that they actually introduce a low level of
distortion (called dither) to CD recordings in order to make them sound
good? Without it, low volume passages on CDs would be noticeably
distorted
because of the low digital sampling rate. More useless information

didnt know that...

http://amos.indiana.edu/library/scripts/dither.html


RCE

That's a cool website!

Stones ...
 

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RCE wrote:
These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because of
the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE

You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Some* of the problem was technical in nature. Mick & Keith were using
wireless rigs so they could wander all over the stage. The floor monitors
were spaced pretty far apart and although they knew they had to remain near
one to hear what they were singing/playing, it was obvious that this was
unlikely to happen. Charlie's drum zone was surrounded in a plexiglass box
on the sides (maybe the back, too - didn't notice). This was done so at
least he could be isolated from all the crowd noise and hear himself.
Otherwise, nobody would've been anchoring the band. Wood & Jones seemed to
remain pretty still, in an effort to not get lost like the others. On a
normal stage, the monitors would've been clustered more closely.


*Some: Less than the total of all the problems. A subset. A indirect
suggestion that one problem was clearly evident, while others could not be
determined. This has been test. If it had been a real emergency blah blah
blah....

Stones ...
 

Stones ...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because of
the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens who
are old enough to be their grandfathers.

Stones ...
 

JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because of
the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

That's an intriguing comment only because I grew up listening to the
Stones and playing a lot of their music, and have always liked them a
lot. From two somewhat opposite perspectives, we managed to reach a
common conclusion.

Stones ...
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of
the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

That's an intriguing comment only because I grew up listening to the
Stones and playing a lot of their music, and have always liked them a
lot. From two somewhat opposite perspectives, we managed to reach a
common conclusion.


Aside from purported drug use (or, in Richard's case, obvious), what do you
suggest they do? Stop doing what they enjoy?

Stones ...
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because of
the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens who
are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production seemed
pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years

Stones ...
 

"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens
who are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years

I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance is so
short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.

Stones ...
 

Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of
the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of
the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

That's an intriguing comment only because I grew up listening to the
Stones and playing a lot of their music, and have always liked them a
lot. From two somewhat opposite perspectives, we managed to reach a
common conclusion.


Aside from purported drug use (or, in Richard's case, obvious), what do you
suggest they do? Stop doing what they enjoy?


Not at all. They should indeed continue to do what they enjoy. However,
they need to try to uphold some reasonable standards of professionalism
if they intend to continue doing it for money. Good thing they're the
"Rolling Stones", if it had been Joe Schwartz and the East Overshirt
Wannabees playing at the same level of proficiency (and it well could
have), ABC would have cut to a commercial after the second or third
major screw up.

There may be other explanations or excuses, but I think I say a poor
showing from a bunch of guys who thought they'd earn their million
bucks a minute (or whatever) simply by showing up and *being* the
Rolling Stones rather than by putting together a musically dynamic
three-song set. Maybe there comes a point in time when instead of
"rocking on!", it is just more dignified to rock off.

Stones ...
 

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"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
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...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens
who are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years

I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance is
so short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.

That hasn't seemed to be a problem in the last few years.

Stones ...
 

"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and
jump about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out
has-beens who are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years

I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance is
so short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.

That hasn't seemed to be a problem in the last few years.

With which artists?

Stones ...
 

Mys Terry wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:34:26 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager
DOTnet wrote:


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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens
who are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years

I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance is
so short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.

That hasn't seemed to be a problem in the last few years.


The Rolling Stones were not lip syncing. They were actually performing
live. BIG difference.

Bingo. The last few times I attended a Stones concert, it was entirely
canned. Mick had to be very careful where he walked, how he gestured,
etc, as there were incidents where what you saw on stage from a close
seat and what was being shown on the monster video screens was not
completely in sync. The band could have phoned in sick, and most of the
show would have gone on anyway.

No excuse for screwing up "Start Me Up" or "Satisfaction" when you're
the Rolling Stones.

Stones ...
 

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RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the beginning
of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible
because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could
see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance- and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and
jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out has-beens
who are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years

I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a
half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance
is
so short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.

That hasn't seemed to be a problem in the last few years.


The Rolling Stones were not lip syncing. They were actually performing
live. BIG difference.



Time out. TIME OUT! Are you suggesting that when we only see Britney Spears
singing, but we hear 8 voices singing harmony, those other voices aren't
really coming out of her face at the performance? :-)

Stones ...
 

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Interesting little tidbit about the performance
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/0....c9b1aybz.html

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Mys Terry wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:34:26 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager
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"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote:
RCE wrote:

These guys still know how to rock.

Mrs.E and I went to see them a couple of years ago at the
beginning
of the
"Licks" tour at the Fleet Center in Boston. It was horrible
because
of the
disgusting sound system at the Center.

This performance was actually better, sound-wise.

RCE


You think?

The garage band down the block is tighter than the Stones were
tonight.
How the H do you flub up "Satisfaction" after 40 years? You could
see
a
couple of the guys were really frustrated- I thought the bass
player
was going to climb right up into the drummer's lap for a while
there
as
they struggled to get their licks together. Lot's of unhappy
glances
exchanged every time somebody screwed something up. They were
literally
"jamming" instead of performing. Very disappointing show.

My suggestion, fewer drugs and less booze before a performance-
and
more rehearsals.


Yes sir...I don't know how the Stones justify their outrageous
fees.
Have to admit, I've never seen them live...(my son wouldn't let me
go
along with him & his buddies when they played the Maritimes last
summer)
but age & lifestyle is really creeping up on these guys.
I like to hear them the way they sounded in the 60s.
Now I don't think they're a reasonable facsimile of a rock band.

I agree. I thought they stunk last night. Maybe that is because I
generally never cared for them.

My wife and I did get a kick seeing all the teenyboppers scream and
jump
about over them......a bunch of 60 some year old drugged out
has-beens
who are old enough to be their grandfathers.

I thought they sounded pretty bad as well, and the entire production
seemed pretty lame, compared to the last couple of years

I wonder, too, if part of the problem is the simple fact that it's a
half
time show. No accurate way to do a sound check, since the presence of
a
crowd totally alters the dynamics of any stadium. And, the performance
is
so short that by the time the band and technicians warm up, it's over.

That hasn't seemed to be a problem in the last few years.


The Rolling Stones were not lip syncing. They were actually performing
live. BIG difference.

Bingo. The last few times I attended a Stones concert, it was entirely
canned. Mick had to be very careful where he walked, how he gestured,
etc, as there were incidents where what you saw on stage from a close
seat and what was being shown on the monster video screens was not
completely in sync. The band could have phoned in sick, and most of the
show would have gone on anyway.

No excuse for screwing up "Start Me Up" or "Satisfaction" when you're
the Rolling Stones.

Stones ...
 

"RCE" wrote in message
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These guys still know how to rock.

They...were...horrible.

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NOYB wrote:
"RCE" wrote in message
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These guys still know how to rock.

They...were...horrible.




Well, it wasn't Brown Sugar, and the sound was pretty bad, but...Mick
moves better than you do.

He's had more girlfriends (and boyfriends) than I. The sex must keep him
limber.

Stones ...
 

"RCE" wrote in message
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These guys still know how to rock.

I wished they would have refereed the game.

-Greg

Stones ...
 

NOYB wrote:


He's had more girlfriends (and boyfriends) than I. The sex must keep him
limber.


Huh? The George W. party probably doesn't want to hear about your
'boyfriends'.

Stones ...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


He's had more girlfriends (and boyfriends) than I. The sex must keep him
limber.


Huh? The George W. party probably doesn't want to hear about your
'boyfriends'.

If Mick had even *one* boyfriend, that would be one more than me.

Stones ...
 

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"Don White" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


He's had more girlfriends (and boyfriends) than I. The sex must keep
him limber.


Huh? The George W. party probably doesn't want to hear about your
'boyfriends'.

If Mick had even *one* boyfriend, that would be one more than me.




Wishing is the same as having, big fella. We already know you like 'em in a
suit & tie, an reely stoopid with a fake Texas accent. :-) fade in the
banjo music