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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:16:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

going to take my truck for a ride all by myself.

finally, i can get out of the freakin' house...

man, im jonesing for a boat ride - anybody want to help me launch the
ranger? :)

Jump on a plane to Ft Myers (SWFIA). We're headed up to St Pete Beach
this weekend via Pine Island Sound, Boca Grande, Venice, Sarasota and
Long Boat Key among others.

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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:38:12 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Jump on a plane to Ft Myers (SWFIA). We're headed up to St Pete Beach
this weekend via Pine Island Sound, Boca Grande, Venice, Sarasota and
Long Boat Key among others.

there but for the fact that i hate flying, go i. :)

It's a fairly quick flight, less than 3 hours. We usually take Jet
Blue out of JFK, nice planes, good service. Let me know your flight
number and we'll meet you at the terminal.


Hurry though, time is running out!

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:20:31 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:38:12 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Jump on a plane to Ft Myers (SWFIA). We're headed up to St Pete Beach
this weekend via Pine Island Sound, Boca Grande, Venice, Sarasota and
Long Boat Key among others.

there but for the fact that i hate flying, go i. :)

It's a fairly quick flight, less than 3 hours. We usually take Jet
Blue out of JFK, nice planes, good service. Let me know your flight
number and we'll meet you at the terminal.

Hurry though, time is running out!

what part of i hate flying was hard to understand? :)

My last flight was a 2 engine piece of **** going from Philly to Long
Island/McArthur. It had bald tires and it was snowing. I asked the pilot
about this after we landed. He said it wasn't such a big deal. Asked two
friends who fly small planes. They said the same thing. I think these people
are pithed like frogs before they get their credentials.

Gotta be nuts to step foot in an airplane these days. Seems like most of the
airlines are in chapter 11. I don't trust the mechanics any more. It used to
be fun when the equipment was new and many of the pilots were WWII veterans.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Gotta be nuts to step foot in an airplane these days. Seems like most of
the airlines are in chapter 11. I don't trust the mechanics any more. It
used to be fun when the equipment was new and many of the pilots were WWII
veterans.


My sentiments, exactly. Pilots aren't pilots anymore. They are referred to
as "cockpit managers". I'd much rather drive. I got a private ticket 11
years ago but gave the hobby up because I found it stressful rather than
enjoyable flying into and out of any airport, controlled or not.

RCE

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 07:57:09 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


want to hear something really weird? i love flying in helicopters.

go figure.

Helicopters are like bees. Technically impossible to fly.

RCE

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On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:20:10 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

what part of i hate flying was hard to understand? :)

The PLANE does the flying, you sit back and enjoy the ride. :-)

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"RCE" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Gotta be nuts to step foot in an airplane these days. Seems like most of
the airlines are in chapter 11. I don't trust the mechanics any more. It
used to be fun when the equipment was new and many of the pilots were
WWII veterans.


My sentiments, exactly. Pilots aren't pilots anymore. They are referred
to as "cockpit managers". I'd much rather drive. I got a private ticket
11 years ago but gave the hobby up because I found it stressful rather
than enjoyable flying into and out of any airport, controlled or not.

RCE


(wandering thoughts): I think my father's trying to kill me. He's at our
company's HQ on Long Island, 7 hours from Rochester by car. Last time I flew
(Rochester to Philly to McArthur), it took 6 hours. Every time we have a
meeting I'm supposed to attend, he bitches and whines for a week about "Why
can't you be like the other guys, and fly here?" (Other guys are from
Chicago, Denver, Florida). My own father wants me on a flying death trap.
:-(

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 07:57:09 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Gotta be nuts to step foot in an airplane these days. Seems like most of
the airlines are in chapter 11. I don't trust the mechanics any more. It
used to be fun when the equipment was new and many of the pilots were
WWII
veterans.

My sentiments, exactly. Pilots aren't pilots anymore. They are referred
to
as "cockpit managers". I'd much rather drive. I got a private ticket 11
years ago but gave the hobby up because I found it stressful rather than
enjoyable flying into and out of any airport, controlled or not.

want to hear something really weird? i love flying in helicopters.

go figure.

That's totally retarded.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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(wandering thoughts): I think my father's trying to kill me. He's at our
company's HQ on Long Island, 7 hours from Rochester by car. Last time I
flew (Rochester to Philly to McArthur), it took 6 hours. Every time we
have a meeting I'm supposed to attend, he bitches and whines for a week
about "Why can't you be like the other guys, and fly here?" (Other guys
are from Chicago, Denver, Florida). My own father wants me on a flying
death trap. :-(


When I was active in my business I flew to both Rochester and to McArthur on
Long Island more times than I care to remember. We had major contracts with
the UofR and with a company on Long Island. I always felt safest on the
STOL planes powered by turbo props.

RCE

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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RCE wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 07:57:09 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


want to hear something really weird? i love flying in helicopters.

go figure.

Helicopters are like bees. Technically impossible to fly.

RCE


I survived a helicopter crash in West Virginia. Well, I call it a crash.
We had an engine failure and the pilot did something or other with the
rotor blades so that we landed. We landed hard, there was some damage to
the copter, but we all walked away.

Never will get in one again.

It's called "auto-rotation", one of the first things you learn (after
hovering) in helicoper flight instruction. Similar to the seeds with
"wings" that fall from (elm?) trees.

I did one in a Robinson R-44 in Florida. It's all in the timing (sprinkled
with a lot of luck.)

The downward motion of the helicopter keeps the rotors spinning, then, at
the last second, you apply full collective to pitch the rotors for full
lift, hopefully for a soft landing.

RCE

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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RCE wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 07:57:09 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


want to hear something really weird? i love flying in helicopters.

go figure.
Helicopters are like bees. Technically impossible to fly.

RCE

I survived a helicopter crash in West Virginia. Well, I call it a crash.
We had an engine failure and the pilot did something or other with the
rotor blades so that we landed. We landed hard, there was some damage to
the copter, but we all walked away.

Never will get in one again.

It's called "auto-rotation", one of the first things you learn (after
hovering) in helicoper flight instruction. Similar to the seeds with
"wings" that fall from (elm?) trees.

I did one in a Robinson R-44 in Florida. It's all in the timing
(sprinkled with a lot of luck.)

The downward motion of the helicopter keeps the rotors spinning, then, at
the last second, you apply full collective to pitch the rotors for full
lift, hopefully for a soft landing.

RCE

It was the luck part that I appreciated. I figured and still figure that
since I walked away, I shouldn't tempt fate again in a helicopter.

I think you are smart. A helicopter is a very complex machine that, by it's
nature, resists every attempt to fly. Even Sikorshy had a hell of a time
getting one to fly until he discovered and realized the laws of gyroscopic
progression. Good helicopter pilots are strange ducks. They have a sense
of balance that defies logic.

I decided to take helicopter flight lessons while in Florida and went a
couple of times. It's not for late bloomers. When you are young your
balance (inner ear) systems work well, but as you get older it gets
difficult to keep everything together. Flying a helicopter is like trying
to accurately navigate a narrow path standing on top of a 5 foot diameter
beach ball, except the beach ball analogy is only two dimensional, the
helicopter is three. I quickly realized that if I want to continue flying,
I should stick to fixed wing aircraft. Even *that* was a little unnerving
for a late bloomer like me. Flying "under the hood" and practicing forced
take-off stalls (where you stand the airplane up on it's tail until it can't
fly anymore and falls off into a spin) did nothing to enhance the hobby of
flying for me. Young guys and girls learning this yell "WOW"! My exact
comments, the first time, was "Ohhhhh... ****!"

RCE

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Three friends of mine were killed flying their own planes, or flying in
their own planes. A fellow I worked with in Michigan, Morgan O'Leary, was
director of PR for the Michigan Democratic Party and a former newspaper
reporter. He died in the early 1970s. Walter Reuther, the great UAW leader
and a mentor of mine, also died in a private plane crash. And a third
friend, a local printer, crashed his stunt plane into a bridge abutment.

I hate flying.


Sad. I just found out last night that the president and CEO of the company
that acquired mine back in '00 was killed in a crash of his private plane in
California two weeks ago. He was a long time private pilot with a strong
sense of adventure.

RCE

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On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:38:23 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

Sad. I just found out last night that the president and CEO of the company
that acquired mine back in '00 was killed in a crash of his private plane in
California two weeks ago. He was a long time private pilot with a strong
sense of adventure.

Yes it is sad. It has been said there are old pilots and bold pilots,
but there are no old, bold pilots. It seems to be true. Private
aviation has a terrible safety record compared to commercial. Almost
everyone I know who flys a small plane has had, or knows of, some
serious mishap. One of my neighbors down the street is crippled for
life from a small plane crash.

I took a few lessons back in the 60s because it seemed like a cool
thing to do at the time but I never really got comfortable with the
idea of bouncing around in something that light, and with only a
single engine.