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jps January 26th 06 06:32 PM

News from Nikon, sort of.
 
In article ,
says...
My D70 decided to stop autofocusing this morning, so, figuring I had
dome something idiotic, I called Nikon tech support and, as usual,
chatted with a really knowledgeable guy. He had me "two finger salute"
the camera (a reset), and suddenly autofocus came back. I've got to stop
fiddling with the damned knobs...but that's what my old girlfriends used
to say, too. Oh well.

Anyway, I asked, "So when the hell are you going to have a reasonably
priced DSLR with a full-frame CCD," and he said, "I can't tell you,
but...it will be much sooner rather than later."

Finally.


Full frame ccd isn't going to be reasonably priced, not for the next
several years.

jps

JohnH January 26th 06 08:53 PM

News from Nikon, sort of.
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:59:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
My D70 decided to stop autofocusing this morning, so, figuring I had
dome something idiotic, I called Nikon tech support and, as usual,
chatted with a really knowledgeable guy. He had me "two finger salute"
the camera (a reset), and suddenly autofocus came back. I've got to stop
fiddling with the damned knobs...but that's what my old girlfriends used
to say, too. Oh well.

Anyway, I asked, "So when the hell are you going to have a reasonably
priced DSLR with a full-frame CCD," and he said, "I can't tell you,
but...it will be much sooner rather than later."

Finally.


Full frame ccd isn't going to be reasonably priced, not for the next
several years.

jps



The new full-frame Canon, $3000 list, is $2200 via the internet. The
next round of full-framers will be less. Nikon, I believe, is buying its
CCDs from SONY. Now that it is mostly getting out of the film camera
market, it will find a way to cut Canon's nuts off price for a
full-frame CCD.


Be careful buying 'gray market' stuff over the internet. Again, what is the
big advantage of a full frame CCD?
--
John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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JohnH January 26th 06 09:41 PM

News from Nikon, sort of.
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:02:35 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:59:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
My D70 decided to stop autofocusing this morning, so, figuring I had
dome something idiotic, I called Nikon tech support and, as usual,
chatted with a really knowledgeable guy. He had me "two finger salute"
the camera (a reset), and suddenly autofocus came back. I've got to stop
fiddling with the damned knobs...but that's what my old girlfriends used
to say, too. Oh well.

Anyway, I asked, "So when the hell are you going to have a reasonably
priced DSLR with a full-frame CCD," and he said, "I can't tell you,
but...it will be much sooner rather than later."

Finally.
Full frame ccd isn't going to be reasonably priced, not for the next
several years.

jps

The new full-frame Canon, $3000 list, is $2200 via the internet. The
next round of full-framers will be less. Nikon, I believe, is buying its
CCDs from SONY. Now that it is mostly getting out of the film camera
market, it will find a way to cut Canon's nuts off price for a
full-frame CCD.


Be careful buying 'gray market' stuff over the internet. Again, what is the
big advantage of a full frame CCD?
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



Well, for starters, wide angle lenses work as wide angle lenses.

I'd like the "18" on my 18-70 zoom to be an 18, not a 27. And I'd like
my other auto nikkor lenses to perform as I expect them to, not to
produce focal lengths half again their spec. I am used to viewing shots
in full 35 mm frame view.


I'd thought the lack of the wide angle capability might be a problem until
I saw how easy it was to join photos in PS Elements.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH January 26th 06 10:37 PM

News from Nikon, sort of.
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:47:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:02:35 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:59:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
My D70 decided to stop autofocusing this morning, so, figuring I had
dome something idiotic, I called Nikon tech support and, as usual,
chatted with a really knowledgeable guy. He had me "two finger salute"
the camera (a reset), and suddenly autofocus came back. I've got to stop
fiddling with the damned knobs...but that's what my old girlfriends used
to say, too. Oh well.

Anyway, I asked, "So when the hell are you going to have a reasonably
priced DSLR with a full-frame CCD," and he said, "I can't tell you,
but...it will be much sooner rather than later."

Finally.
Full frame ccd isn't going to be reasonably priced, not for the next
several years.

jps
The new full-frame Canon, $3000 list, is $2200 via the internet. The
next round of full-framers will be less. Nikon, I believe, is buying its
CCDs from SONY. Now that it is mostly getting out of the film camera
market, it will find a way to cut Canon's nuts off price for a
full-frame CCD.
Be careful buying 'gray market' stuff over the internet. Again, what is the
big advantage of a full frame CCD?
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Well, for starters, wide angle lenses work as wide angle lenses.

I'd like the "18" on my 18-70 zoom to be an 18, not a 27. And I'd like
my other auto nikkor lenses to perform as I expect them to, not to
produce focal lengths half again their spec. I am used to viewing shots
in full 35 mm frame view.


I'd thought the lack of the wide angle capability might be a problem until
I saw how easy it was to join photos in PS Elements.
--
John H


Uh...thanks, but I'll pass on that. I like to compose my photos through
the viewfinder and NOT mess with them much in the software. I do a bit
of edge cropping, that's all.


I agree, when it's possible. But, a nice panoramic shot is also a thing of
beauty, even when done with software. The scene could be the inside of a
cuddy cabin or a landscape.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Reggie Smithers January 27th 06 11:49 AM

News from Nikon, sort of.
 
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:59:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
My D70 decided to stop autofocusing this morning, so, figuring I had
dome something idiotic, I called Nikon tech support and, as usual,
chatted with a really knowledgeable guy. He had me "two finger salute"
the camera (a reset), and suddenly autofocus came back. I've got to stop
fiddling with the damned knobs...but that's what my old girlfriends used
to say, too. Oh well.

Anyway, I asked, "So when the hell are you going to have a reasonably
priced DSLR with a full-frame CCD," and he said, "I can't tell you,
but...it will be much sooner rather than later."

Finally.
Full frame ccd isn't going to be reasonably priced, not for the next
several years.

jps


The new full-frame Canon, $3000 list, is $2200 via the internet. The
next round of full-framers will be less. Nikon, I believe, is buying its
CCDs from SONY. Now that it is mostly getting out of the film camera
market, it will find a way to cut Canon's nuts off price for a
full-frame CCD.


Be careful buying 'gray market' stuff over the internet. Again, what is the
big advantage of a full frame CCD?
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH,
When buying online, how can you tell if you are buying "gray market" or
product that was made for the US market?

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

JohnH January 27th 06 04:58 PM

News from Nikon, sort of.
 
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:49:00 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:59:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
My D70 decided to stop autofocusing this morning, so, figuring I had
dome something idiotic, I called Nikon tech support and, as usual,
chatted with a really knowledgeable guy. He had me "two finger salute"
the camera (a reset), and suddenly autofocus came back. I've got to stop
fiddling with the damned knobs...but that's what my old girlfriends used
to say, too. Oh well.

Anyway, I asked, "So when the hell are you going to have a reasonably
priced DSLR with a full-frame CCD," and he said, "I can't tell you,
but...it will be much sooner rather than later."

Finally.
Full frame ccd isn't going to be reasonably priced, not for the next
several years.

jps

The new full-frame Canon, $3000 list, is $2200 via the internet. The
next round of full-framers will be less. Nikon, I believe, is buying its
CCDs from SONY. Now that it is mostly getting out of the film camera
market, it will find a way to cut Canon's nuts off price for a
full-frame CCD.


Be careful buying 'gray market' stuff over the internet. Again, what is the
big advantage of a full frame CCD?
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH,
When buying online, how can you tell if you are buying "gray market" or
product that was made for the US market?


Some of the more honest dealers will list the 'source' of the equipment,
either US or foreign. Below is a site which offers a good deal on a Nikon
D70s (a *real* good deal). This place doesn't give the source, but notice
the phrase, "w/ USA WARRANTY". That tells me that the Nikon warranty is
probably not offered with the camera, but that the dealer is giving his
*own* warranty. In other words, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

http://www.expresscameras.com/prodet...340648&start=1

Many times, besides not getting the Nikon warranty, the 'kit' will not
include everything that comes with the Nikon kit.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Reggie Smithers January 27th 06 05:16 PM

News from Nikon, sort of.
 
JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:49:00 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:59:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
My D70 decided to stop autofocusing this morning, so, figuring I had
dome something idiotic, I called Nikon tech support and, as usual,
chatted with a really knowledgeable guy. He had me "two finger salute"
the camera (a reset), and suddenly autofocus came back. I've got to stop
fiddling with the damned knobs...but that's what my old girlfriends used
to say, too. Oh well.

Anyway, I asked, "So when the hell are you going to have a reasonably
priced DSLR with a full-frame CCD," and he said, "I can't tell you,
but...it will be much sooner rather than later."

Finally.
Full frame ccd isn't going to be reasonably priced, not for the next
several years.

jps
The new full-frame Canon, $3000 list, is $2200 via the internet. The
next round of full-framers will be less. Nikon, I believe, is buying its
CCDs from SONY. Now that it is mostly getting out of the film camera
market, it will find a way to cut Canon's nuts off price for a
full-frame CCD.
Be careful buying 'gray market' stuff over the internet. Again, what is the
big advantage of a full frame CCD?
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH,
When buying online, how can you tell if you are buying "gray market" or
product that was made for the US market?


Some of the more honest dealers will list the 'source' of the equipment,
either US or foreign. Below is a site which offers a good deal on a Nikon
D70s (a *real* good deal). This place doesn't give the source, but notice
the phrase, "w/ USA WARRANTY". That tells me that the Nikon warranty is
probably not offered with the camera, but that the dealer is giving his
*own* warranty. In other words, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

http://www.expresscameras.com/prodet...340648&start=1

Many times, besides not getting the Nikon warranty, the 'kit' will not
include everything that comes with the Nikon kit.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Besides the fact that Nikon is not providing the warranty, isn't it the
same camera?

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

JohnH January 27th 06 06:12 PM

News from Nikon, sort of.
 
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:16:37 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:49:00 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:59:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
My D70 decided to stop autofocusing this morning, so, figuring I had
dome something idiotic, I called Nikon tech support and, as usual,
chatted with a really knowledgeable guy. He had me "two finger salute"
the camera (a reset), and suddenly autofocus came back. I've got to stop
fiddling with the damned knobs...but that's what my old girlfriends used
to say, too. Oh well.

Anyway, I asked, "So when the hell are you going to have a reasonably
priced DSLR with a full-frame CCD," and he said, "I can't tell you,
but...it will be much sooner rather than later."

Finally.
Full frame ccd isn't going to be reasonably priced, not for the next
several years.

jps
The new full-frame Canon, $3000 list, is $2200 via the internet. The
next round of full-framers will be less. Nikon, I believe, is buying its
CCDs from SONY. Now that it is mostly getting out of the film camera
market, it will find a way to cut Canon's nuts off price for a
full-frame CCD.
Be careful buying 'gray market' stuff over the internet. Again, what is the
big advantage of a full frame CCD?
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************
JohnH,
When buying online, how can you tell if you are buying "gray market" or
product that was made for the US market?


Some of the more honest dealers will list the 'source' of the equipment,
either US or foreign. Below is a site which offers a good deal on a Nikon
D70s (a *real* good deal). This place doesn't give the source, but notice
the phrase, "w/ USA WARRANTY". That tells me that the Nikon warranty is
probably not offered with the camera, but that the dealer is giving his
*own* warranty. In other words, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

http://www.expresscameras.com/prodet...340648&start=1

Many times, besides not getting the Nikon warranty, the 'kit' will not
include everything that comes with the Nikon kit.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Besides the fact that Nikon is not providing the warranty, isn't it the
same camera?


I would guess so. I've no reason to think a different version is made for
the foreign market. Although, if it's made for Japan, and the menu's are in
Japanese, it would be a much more difficult camera to use!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

P. Fritz January 27th 06 06:46 PM

News from Nikon, sort of.
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:16:37 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:49:00 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:59:06 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
My D70 decided to stop autofocusing this morning, so, figuring I
had
dome something idiotic, I called Nikon tech support and, as usual,
chatted with a really knowledgeable guy. He had me "two finger
salute"
the camera (a reset), and suddenly autofocus came back. I've got to
stop
fiddling with the damned knobs...but that's what my old girlfriends
used
to say, too. Oh well.

Anyway, I asked, "So when the hell are you going to have a
reasonably
priced DSLR with a full-frame CCD," and he said, "I can't tell you,
but...it will be much sooner rather than later."

Finally.
Full frame ccd isn't going to be reasonably priced, not for the next
several years.

jps
The new full-frame Canon, $3000 list, is $2200 via the internet. The
next round of full-framers will be less. Nikon, I believe, is buying
its
CCDs from SONY. Now that it is mostly getting out of the film camera
market, it will find a way to cut Canon's nuts off price for a
full-frame CCD.
Be careful buying 'gray market' stuff over the internet. Again, what
is the
big advantage of a full frame CCD?
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************
JohnH,
When buying online, how can you tell if you are buying "gray market" or
product that was made for the US market?

Some of the more honest dealers will list the 'source' of the equipment,
either US or foreign. Below is a site which offers a good deal on a
Nikon
D70s (a *real* good deal). This place doesn't give the source, but
notice
the phrase, "w/ USA WARRANTY". That tells me that the Nikon warranty is
probably not offered with the camera, but that the dealer is giving his
*own* warranty. In other words, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot
pole.

http://www.expresscameras.com/prodet...340648&start=1

Many times, besides not getting the Nikon warranty, the 'kit' will not
include everything that comes with the Nikon kit.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Besides the fact that Nikon is not providing the warranty, isn't it the
same camera?


I would guess so. I've no reason to think a different version is made for
the foreign market. Although, if it's made for Japan, and the menu's are
in
Japanese, it would be a much more difficult camera to use!


Canon makes different cameras for different markets

--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************





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