Harry Krause wrote:
Got the gas bill for December for the house...

More than twice as much as the corresponding month of 2003.

Incredible.

What I find odd, is my neighbor's was double, mine wasn't. Mine did go
up a LOT, but not double.

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Harry Krause wrote:
Got the gas bill for December for the house...

More than twice as much as the corresponding month of 2003.

Incredible.

What I find odd, is my neighbor's was double, mine wasn't. Mine did go
up a LOT, but not double.


Was your usage the same? Do you have peak and off peak pricing?

I am on a 2 year contract ($.92/Ccf) with a supplier that ends the end of
this month. They wanted me to renew with only another 2 year contract
option available. I refuse to lock into another contract with the current
gas prices and opted instead to go with a month to month rate with our local
gas company, but with a rate/Ccf 75% higher than my old 2 year contract
rate.

Current rates in my area:
http://www.puco.ohio.gov/Puco/Apples...cfm?doc_id=479

The plus side is that there is only one more month of really cold
temperatures before things start to warm up. The cost of natural gas has to
go down by next winter.........at least I hope it does.

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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Got the gas bill for December for the house...

More than twice as much as the corresponding month of 2003.

Incredible.
What I find odd, is my neighbor's was double, mine wasn't. Mine did go
up a LOT, but not double.

Was your usage the same? Do you have peak and off peak pricing?

I am on a 2 year contract ($.92/Ccf) with a supplier that ends the end of
this month. They wanted me to renew with only another 2 year contract
option available. I refuse to lock into another contract with the
current gas prices and opted instead to go with a month to month rate
with our local gas company, but with a rate/Ccf 75% higher than my old 2
year contract rate.

Current rates in my area:
http://www.puco.ohio.gov/Puco/Apples...cfm?doc_id=479

The plus side is that there is only one more month of really cold
temperatures before things start to warm up. The cost of natural gas has
to go down by next winter.........at least I hope it does.

I'm in a slightly worse position, in that we have our gas delivered by
truck, and pay a slight premium for that. We have a 500-gallon tank buried
in the back yard. We use the gas for rangetop cooking, to heat hot water,
in one of the fireplaces, and as a backup for one of our heatpumps. My
wife grabbed the bill, else I'd know what the per unit price is, but I did
notice it had more than doubled. Grrrr.

You have your gas, presumably propane, tank burried in your backyard?

The only take you would likely have buried in your backyard is a fuel oil
tank. And, if your house was built recently, as you assert, you fuel oil
tank will be above ground.

The water table in your area has got to be very close to the surface?

Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:

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Harry Krause wrote:

Got the gas bill for December for the house...

More than twice as much as the corresponding month of 2003.

Incredible.

What I find odd, is my neighbor's was double, mine wasn't. Mine did go
up a LOT, but not double.

Was your usage the same? Do you have peak and off peak pricing?


I am on a 2 year contract ($.92/Ccf) with a supplier that ends the end
of this month. They wanted me to renew with only another 2 year
contract option available. I refuse to lock into another contract
with the current gas prices and opted instead to go with a month to
month rate with our local gas company, but with a rate/Ccf 75% higher
than my old 2 year contract rate.

Current rates in my area:
http://www.puco.ohio.gov/Puco/Apples...cfm?doc_id=479

The plus side is that there is only one more month of really cold
temperatures before things start to warm up. The cost of natural gas
has to go down by next winter.........at least I hope it does.


I'm in a slightly worse position, in that we have our gas delivered by
truck, and pay a slight premium for that. We have a 500-gallon tank
buried in the back yard. We use the gas for rangetop cooking, to heat
hot water, in one of the fireplaces, and as a backup for one of our
heatpumps. My wife grabbed the bill, else I'd know what the per unit
price is, but I did notice it had more than doubled. Grrrr.

We've been exporting natural gas to New England a number of years from
offshore. Now there's finally talk of bringing it onto the peninsular
area and downtown Halifax.
Right now, there's no price incentive to convert from electric heat or
oil fired heat.

Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Got the gas bill for December for the house...

More than twice as much as the corresponding month of 2003.

Incredible.

What I find odd, is my neighbor's was double, mine wasn't. Mine did go
up a LOT, but not double.


Was your usage the same? Do you have peak and off peak pricing?

My usage was similar. Neither one of us has a lock in rate, where you
pay the same through the year.

JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Got the gas bill for December for the house...

More than twice as much as the corresponding month of 2003.

Incredible.

What I find odd, is my neighbor's was double, mine wasn't. Mine did go
up a LOT, but not double.


Was your usage the same? Do you have peak and off peak pricing?

I am on a 2 year contract ($.92/Ccf) with a supplier that ends the end of
this month. They wanted me to renew with only another 2 year contract
option available. I refuse to lock into another contract with the current
gas prices and opted instead to go with a month to month rate with our local
gas company, but with a rate/Ccf 75% higher than my old 2 year contract
rate.

Current rates in my area:
http://www.puco.ohio.gov/Puco/Apples...cfm?doc_id=479

The plus side is that there is only one more month of really cold
temperatures before things start to warm up. The cost of natural gas has to
go down by next winter.........at least I hope it does.

I was locked in once for a year, and I did the math and paid more that
year than the following year when I wasn't locked in.

Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
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The plus side is that there is only one more month of really cold
temperatures before things start to warm up. The cost of natural gas has
to go down by next winter.........at least I hope it does.
I'm in a slightly worse position, in that we have our gas delivered by
truck, and pay a slight premium for that. We have a 500-gallon tank buried
in the back yard. We use the gas for rangetop cooking, to heat hot water,
in one of the fireplaces, and as a backup for one of our heatpumps. My
wife grabbed the bill, else I'd know what the per unit price is, but I did
notice it had more than doubled. Grrrr.

You have your gas, presumably propane, tank burried in your backyard?

The only take you would likely have buried in your backyard is a fuel oil
tank. And, if your house was built recently, as you assert, you fuel oil
tank will be above ground.


I think it is wonderful that so many posters on rec.boats are so damned
sure of what they think they know.

Yes, my cooking-hot water-fireplace gas tank is buried in the ground, as
are virtually all the similar tanks in this area. And it's not fuel oil.
It's gas. We don't use fuel oil.

The tanks are buried underground. There is an access built into the top
of the tank that looks a bit like a submarine's conning tower. It sticks
up out of the ground about 8-10". It has a removable lid. Inside are
some valves and a "fill" device."


The water table in your area has got to be very close to the surface?

Uh, no. Not at all.

Yeah, Harry, you know that you just can't possibly know more about your
own personal situation as someone who doesn't know anything about your
property. The water table in a given area flucuates at certain levels,
but stays pretty constant in those parameters. The ground however,
doesn't. They're called hills and valleys.

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JimH wrote:
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wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Got the gas bill for December for the house...

More than twice as much as the corresponding month of 2003.

Incredible.

What I find odd, is my neighbor's was double, mine wasn't. Mine did go
up a LOT, but not double.


Was your usage the same? Do you have peak and off peak pricing?

I am on a 2 year contract ($.92/Ccf) with a supplier that ends the end of
this month. They wanted me to renew with only another 2 year contract
option available. I refuse to lock into another contract with the
current
gas prices and opted instead to go with a month to month rate with our
local
gas company, but with a rate/Ccf 75% higher than my old 2 year contract
rate.

Current rates in my area:
http://www.puco.ohio.gov/Puco/Apples...cfm?doc_id=479

The plus side is that there is only one more month of really cold
temperatures before things start to warm up. The cost of natural gas has
to
go down by next winter.........at least I hope it does.

I was locked in once for a year, and I did the math and paid more that
year than the following year when I wasn't locked in.


It paid off big time for me.

JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Got the gas bill for December for the house...

More than twice as much as the corresponding month of 2003.

Incredible.

What I find odd, is my neighbor's was double, mine wasn't. Mine did go
up a LOT, but not double.


Was your usage the same? Do you have peak and off peak pricing?

I am on a 2 year contract ($.92/Ccf) with a supplier that ends the end of
this month. They wanted me to renew with only another 2 year contract
option available. I refuse to lock into another contract with the
current
gas prices and opted instead to go with a month to month rate with our
local
gas company, but with a rate/Ccf 75% higher than my old 2 year contract
rate.

Current rates in my area:
http://www.puco.ohio.gov/Puco/Apples...cfm?doc_id=479

The plus side is that there is only one more month of really cold
temperatures before things start to warm up. The cost of natural gas has
to
go down by next winter.........at least I hope it does.

I was locked in once for a year, and I did the math and paid more that
year than the following year when I wasn't locked in.


It paid off big time for me.

If I'd have gotten in it at the right time, it would have for me, too.
But, I didn't, and because that particular year, gas was really cheap
during the summer, I lost.