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NYC XYZ January 19th 06 06:31 PM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
Oh, my. Oh wow!

Hmm...~25-lb. kit? No need for a First Light folding kayak now!

Wonder how much that costs?

How fast is 10mph on water?

Wonder what Class it can take on....


Looks like Europeans have more fun!



NYC XYZ wrote:
Steven M. O'Neill wrote:
NYC XYZ wrote:
Or Newark from Bayonne?


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[email protected] January 19th 06 09:05 PM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
NYC XYZ wrote:
Oh, my. Oh wow!

How fast is 10mph on water?


Almost exactly as fast as 10 mph on land. But that doesn't matter,
because they only claim 10 KMH, which is 5.4 knots, which is about what
a motivated touring kayaker can do.

The really cool thing is the pedal-powered pump.

Steve

Steven M. O'Neill wrote:
NYC XYZ wrote:
Or Newark from Bayonne?

http://www.gizmag.com/go/2505/

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Brooklyn, NY




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Tinkerntom January 20th 06 12:32 AM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
On 19 Jan 2006 13:05:59 -0800, wrote:

NYC XYZ wrote:
Oh, my. Oh wow!

How fast is 10mph on water?


Almost exactly as fast as 10 mph on land. But that doesn't matter,
because they only claim 10 KMH, which is 5.4 knots, which is about what
a motivated touring kayaker can do.

The really cool thing is the pedal-powered pump.

Steve

Steven M. O'Neill wrote:
NYC XYZ wrote:
Or Newark from Bayonne?

http://www.gizmag.com/go/2505/

--
Steven O'Neill
Brooklyn, NY



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I'll bet you this thing will handle the bow wave of a harbor patrol
boat, hands down! If nothing else, you can just outrun the rascal! TnT

NYC XYZ January 20th 06 01:05 AM

Aw, Barnacles!
 

Tinkerntom wrote:


I'll bet you this thing will handle the bow wave of a harbor patrol
boat, hands down! If nothing else, you can just outrun the rascal! TnT



Facist pigs! Did you know that it's now illegal to get together with
your friends for a bike ride without a permit from City Hall if your
group is like five or more people??

Don't worry -- I'll let you guys know if some seaborne pig pulls up
alongside and gives me a ticket for bicycling off the street!

BTW, guess what these pigs had to say at the end of their
"investigation" -- the boat which capsized me was apparently responding
to an emergency call at the time. Their safety training sergeant
actually had the nerve to suggest that I shouldn't be paddling out
there 'cause it's dangerous -- so of course I told the meathead that
it's dangerous just crossing the damned streets in New York.

They're supposed to send me brochures and invites for training classes
that they say the hold regularly...of course, I'd expect a check from
them first!

Gonna get a flare gun for the season coming up in May...anyone ever
shoot one of 'em at another boat? =]

Well, I shouldn't be too harsh on our Pig Dep't. -- better keep the
morons in uniform than have them in the mafia (just look at how they
act every time they threaten to go on strike if you don't believe me).


NYC XYZ January 20th 06 01:20 AM

Aw, Barnacles!
 

wrote:
NYC XYZ wrote:
Oh, my. Oh wow!

How fast is 10mph on water?


Almost exactly as fast as 10 mph on land. But that doesn't matter,
because they only claim 10 KMH, which is 5.4 knots, which is about what
a motivated touring kayaker can do.

The really cool thing is the pedal-powered pump.

Steve



LOL! You have an eye for detail, I see.

Is a motivated 'yakker that good, to paddle at 5.4 knots?? I hear that
3 knots is a lot of work...or do I have water in my ears....

It's been around for a few years now, actually...I wonder what
improvements they may have made in all this time...unfortunately, it
doesn't look like it's being mass-produced.


Rodney Long January 20th 06 03:08 AM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
wrote:

The really cool thing is the pedal-powered pump.



Some how I missed the original post,, but I have a pedal powered
kayak,, it will out run any thing else on the water powered by man, this
thing throws a wake :-) You can see me sitting in mine on the front
page of my web site
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com


NYC XYZ January 20th 06 05:02 AM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
Cute photo, dude!

Say, do you use that Hobie Cat for any touring/sea-kayaking? I wonder
how it handles...so pedal power will always beat paddle power??



Rodney Long wrote:



Some how I missed the original post,, but I have a pedal powered
kayak,, it will out run any thing else on the water powered by man, this
thing throws a wake :-) You can see me sitting in mine on the front
page of my web site
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



Don White January 20th 06 02:07 PM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
Rodney Long wrote:
wrote:

The really cool thing is the pedal-powered pump.




Some how I missed the original post,, but I have a pedal powered
kayak,, it will out run any thing else on the water powered by man, this
thing throws a wake :-) You can see me sitting in mine on the front
page of my web site



Saw those things at last years boat show. Good as advertised?

[email protected] January 20th 06 05:29 PM

Aw, Barnacles!
 

NYC XYZ wrote:
wrote:
NYC XYZ wrote:
Oh, my. Oh wow!

How fast is 10mph on water?


Almost exactly as fast as 10 mph on land. But that doesn't matter,
because they only claim 10 KMH, which is 5.4 knots, which is about what
a motivated touring kayaker can do.

LOL! You have an eye for detail, I see.

Is a motivated 'yakker that good, to paddle at 5.4 knots?? I hear that
3 knots is a lot of work...or do I have water in my ears....


Read the reviews in Sea Kayaker. Many of the boats tested can be pushed
above 5 knots. I've seen 6 knots in my 18' Epic, but not for very long.
Cruising at 4 knots isn't much of a feat in a touring boat. No comment
about your ears.

Steve


Rodney Long January 20th 06 05:40 PM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
Don White wrote:
Rodney Long wrote:

wrote:

The really cool thing is the pedal-powered pump.





Some how I missed the original post,, but I have a pedal powered
kayak,, it will out run any thing else on the water powered by man, this
thing throws a wake :-) You can see me sitting in mine on the front
page of my web site




Saw those things at last years boat show. Good as advertised?


Actually better than advertised,, Of course they (Hobie) "gave" me the
boat,, I put it on international TV 43 times in 04, as They kept showing
that darn Tech TV story on me. with me fishing from it.

I didn't even put my bass boat in the water last year, because I love
that Hobie so much, my son can get it up to 9 miles an hour for a couple
hundred yards. The slowest you can peddle it is about 3 miles an hour,
that's with your feet barely moving, I curse it at 5 mph,, it is the
most awesome boat to fish from, extreamly stable, I have not, nor anyone
that has used it, has ever turned it over.

The biggest problem is keeping my wife and kids and grand kids from
using it all the time,,, when I want to be fishing, one of them is out
on the lake in it, when one gets out, another hops in,, heck I bought
them a paddle boat that seats four, but NOOOOO,, they want to be in the
OutBack, because it's so easy to cover a lot of water. Heck they use it
much more than the PWC

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney Long January 20th 06 05:57 PM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
NYC XYZ wrote:

Cute photo, dude!

Say, do you use that Hobie Cat for any touring/sea-kayaking? I wonder
how it handles...so pedal power will always beat paddle power??



They are awesome in the ocean,, you can also get the sail kit for it,,
this pedal is better,, now the wheal peddle boats are slow as hell,,
hard to pedal, and the don't coast once you stop pedaling, this drive
has near zero drag, it will coast for long distances


The only reverse is supplied by the kayak paddle, that comes with the
boat, and attached to the side of the boat with an elastic holder, it is
instantly accessible, and you can paddle and pedal the boat at the same
time (this is how my son reaches 9 miles and hour with it), or you can
just use the paddle. If the water is really skinny, (6 to 18 inches) you
can do little 1 inch pedal strokes, the fins just flap against the
hull,, it can run very fast this way. You see, unlike the regular paddle
boats, you don't have to do full strokes with your feet. It's design is
just out of this world,, the pedals can be adjusted to even fit my eight
year old grand daughter.

This boat is really worth the extra money you spend over a regular
kayak, it allows you hands free to fish while your moving, or just
holding against a current, it comes with everything except a life
jacket,, it comes with a cooler, tackle box and anchor system, even
front and rear elastic cargo nets. what I like the most is the wheel
system (that comes with it),, you can load the boat up with all your
gear and roll the thing to the water, you can roll it anywhere you can
walk with those big wheels, even across a sandy beach
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

NYC XYZ January 20th 06 06:43 PM

Aw, Barnacles!
 

Rodney Long wrote:



They are awesome in the ocean,, you can also get the sail kit for it,,
this pedal is better,, now the wheal peddle boats are slow as hell,,
hard to pedal, and the don't coast once you stop pedaling, this drive
has near zero drag, it will coast for long distances


OMG! Sounds too cool...I can't believe it's been around so long --
someone tell me if they invented jet-packs yet!

The only reverse is supplied by the kayak paddle, that comes with the
boat, and attached to the side of the boat with an elastic holder, it is
instantly accessible, and you can paddle and pedal the boat at the same
time (this is how my son reaches 9 miles and hour with it), or you can
just use the paddle. If the water is really skinny, (6 to 18 inches) you
can do little 1 inch pedal strokes, the fins just flap against the
hull,, it can run very fast this way. You see, unlike the regular paddle
boats, you don't have to do full strokes with your feet. It's design is
just out of this world,, the pedals can be adjusted to even fit my eight
year old grand daughter.


Thanks for the review, Rodney! How do you think it'll do against a 3-5
knot current? Is it possible to paddle and pedal at the same time for
increased propulsion? How tough is the boat? I wonder if its shell is
good enough for the very cold waters of wintertime.

Is there a downside to it at all that you can see? Or something that
you feel could be improved a bit? I'm thinking of getting the Hobie
Cat Mirage Tandem Kayak.

This boat is really worth the extra money you spend over a regular
kayak, it allows you hands free to fish while your moving, or just
holding against a current, it comes with everything except a life
jacket,, it comes with a cooler, tackle box and anchor system, even
front and rear elastic cargo nets. what I like the most is the wheel
system (that comes with it),, you can load the boat up with all your
gear and roll the thing to the water, you can roll it anywhere you can
walk with those big wheels, even across a sandy beach


Oh, sorry, but an angler I ain't! Though I enjoy seafood, for the most
part.

What do you think of the Mirage Tandem, though? While $2K is a lot of
money to me, it's still rather less than what I'd initially feared.

I hope the, what, 14-16' length doesn't mean I'll be fighting against
the water! I've paddled wooden kayaks while sometimes feel like I'm
trying to drag the thing along (of course, I'm a newbie, but the
plastic boats were more comfortable and fun).

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



Rodney Long January 20th 06 07:51 PM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
NYC XYZ wrote:


Thanks for the review, Rodney! How do you think it'll do against a 3-5
knot current? Is it possible to paddle and pedal at the same time for
increased propulsion?


Absolutely


How tough is the boat? I wonder if its shell is
good enough for the very cold waters of wintertime.


It seams thicker than a regular kayak

Is there a downside to it at all that you can see? Or something that
you feel could be improved a bit? I'm thinking of getting the Hobie
Cat Mirage Tandem Kayak.


The only thing I added was more tie down points, and a rear anchor
system,, both of these are needed for fishing, other than that,, they
could replace the rudder with a very small electric motor :-) I'm
thinking of putting my own back there, it won't be hard to modify a
small trolling motor to mount on the rudder stud, this way you could
even have power, and a reverse, if your really wanted the ultiment PWC


Oh, sorry, but an angler I ain't! Though I enjoy seafood, for the most
part.

What do you think of the Mirage Tandem, though? While $2K is a lot of
money to me, it's still rather less than what I'd initially feared.


Man they say that thing is really fast, the wife wants me to get one of
those for the family

I hope the, what, 14-16' length doesn't mean I'll be fighting against
the water! I've paddled wooden kayaks while sometimes feel like I'm
trying to drag the thing along (of course, I'm a newbie, but the
plastic boats were more comfortable and fun).


There is no drag on my OutBack,, it will coast forever, it feels like


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

John Weiss January 20th 06 10:06 PM

Kayak Cruising Speed (was: Aw, Barnacles!)
 
wrote...

Is a motivated 'yakker that good, to paddle at 5.4 knots?? I hear that
3 knots is a lot of work...or do I have water in my ears....


Read the reviews in Sea Kayaker. Many of the boats tested can be pushed
above 5 knots. I've seen 6 knots in my 18' Epic, but not for very long.
Cruising at 4 knots isn't much of a feat in a touring boat. No comment
about your ears.


No wind/current, I cruise at 3 knots in my home-built Pygmy Coho with minimal
("I can do this all day") effort. I can go 4 knots with significant effort; but
can barely hit 5, which appears to be "hull speed."

These have been verified several times by GPS. Anyone else have numbers for
their kayaks?



Galen Hekhuis January 20th 06 10:39 PM

Kayak Cruising Speed (was: Aw, Barnacles!)
 
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:06:24 -0800, "John Weiss"
wrote:

wrote...

Is a motivated 'yakker that good, to paddle at 5.4 knots?? I hear that
3 knots is a lot of work...or do I have water in my ears....


Read the reviews in Sea Kayaker. Many of the boats tested can be pushed
above 5 knots. I've seen 6 knots in my 18' Epic, but not for very long.
Cruising at 4 knots isn't much of a feat in a touring boat. No comment
about your ears.


No wind/current, I cruise at 3 knots in my home-built Pygmy Coho with minimal
("I can do this all day") effort. I can go 4 knots with significant effort; but
can barely hit 5, which appears to be "hull speed."

These have been verified several times by GPS. Anyone else have numbers for
their kayaks?


I do about 2.8 knots in a 13 foot Manteo tupperware boat, and almost always
do so, regardless of the length of the trip. In short bursts I can push it
up to about 5.5, though not for long at all. I have a GPS mount on my
kayak, and virtually always clip one in.

Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
We are the CroMagnon of the future

NYC XYZ January 21st 06 04:20 AM

Aw, Barnacles!
 

Excellent! Thanks again, Rodney...say, do I get a discount if I tell
'em you sent me? =)

Hope your wife gets the Tandem, too...and you your electric trolling
motor!



Rodney Long wrote:
NYC XYZ wrote:


Thanks for the review, Rodney! How do you think it'll do against a 3-5
knot current? Is it possible to paddle and pedal at the same time for
increased propulsion?


Absolutely


How tough is the boat? I wonder if its shell is
good enough for the very cold waters of wintertime.


It seams thicker than a regular kayak

Is there a downside to it at all that you can see? Or something that
you feel could be improved a bit? I'm thinking of getting the Hobie
Cat Mirage Tandem Kayak.


The only thing I added was more tie down points, and a rear anchor
system,, both of these are needed for fishing, other than that,, they
could replace the rudder with a very small electric motor :-) I'm
thinking of putting my own back there, it won't be hard to modify a
small trolling motor to mount on the rudder stud, this way you could
even have power, and a reverse, if your really wanted the ultiment PWC


Oh, sorry, but an angler I ain't! Though I enjoy seafood, for the most
part.

What do you think of the Mirage Tandem, though? While $2K is a lot of
money to me, it's still rather less than what I'd initially feared.


Man they say that thing is really fast, the wife wants me to get one of
those for the family

I hope the, what, 14-16' length doesn't mean I'll be fighting against
the water! I've paddled wooden kayaks while sometimes feel like I'm
trying to drag the thing along (of course, I'm a newbie, but the
plastic boats were more comfortable and fun).


There is no drag on my OutBack,, it will coast forever, it feels like


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



Rodney Long January 21st 06 04:56 AM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
NYC XYZ wrote:
Excellent! Thanks again, Rodney...say, do I get a discount if I tell
'em you sent me? =)


Depends on where you buy it,, if in TN. yep I can give you a $100 dollar
discount at one dealer

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

NYC XYZ January 21st 06 06:43 AM

Aw, Barnacles!
 
Rodney Long wrote:


Depends on where you buy it,, if in TN. yep I can give you a $100 dollar
discount at one dealer

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com




Hmm...depends on how much he's chargin' to begin with! And sometimes
they make it up with "S&H"...the cheapest price seems to be from
tshack.com in FL @ ~$1960.

Thanks again for bring it up. I can't wait to show it to my kayak
club! I don't think any of them are snooty and wouldn't look down on
folding 'yaks, inflatables, etc.


NYC XYZ January 23rd 06 04:53 PM

Aw, Barnacles!
 

Hey, folks!

I wrote Shuttle Bike and just thought I should share the info:

Its pontoons got upgraded to double-chamber pontoons, and it's
available until the end of this month for US$890.00, freight inclusive!

Unfortunately, they seem like they only do wire transfers and
PayPal....



NYC XYZ wrote:
Oh, my. Oh wow!

Hmm...~25-lb. kit? No need for a First Light folding kayak now!

Wonder how much that costs?

How fast is 10mph on water?

Wonder what Class it can take on....


Looks like Europeans have more fun!



NYC XYZ wrote:
Steven M. O'Neill wrote:
NYC XYZ wrote:
Or Newark from Bayonne?

http://www.gizmag.com/go/2505/

--
Steven O'Neill
Brooklyn, NY




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