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Bryan January 14th 06 06:30 AM

dead rise?
 
What does dead rise mean?
My boat has a 19 degree dead rise.



JR North January 14th 06 06:46 AM

dead rise?
 
It's the inclusive angle of the hull at the transom, from keel to chine.
JR

Bryan wrote:

What does dead rise mean?
My boat has a 19 degree dead rise.




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Bryan January 14th 06 07:43 AM

dead rise?
 

"JR North" wrote in message
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It's the inclusive angle of the hull at the transom, from keel to chine.
JR

Bryan wrote:

What does dead rise mean?
My boat has a 19 degree dead rise.



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Thanks, but that didn't help. Want to try a simpler or more illustrative
explanation?



[email protected] January 14th 06 08:42 AM

dead rise?
 

Bryan wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message
...
It's the inclusive angle of the hull at the transom, from keel to chine.
JR

Bryan wrote:

What does dead rise mean?
My boat has a 19 degree dead rise.



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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth


Thanks, but that didn't help. Want to try a simpler or more illustrative
explanation?



If your boat were a log raft or a sheet of plywood, it would have zero
deadrise.
The perfectly flat bottom would not rise up above a horizonal line
drawn below the boat.
The chines (edges of the bottom, sort of) would rest on that horizontal
line just like the keel.

As the bottom assumes a "V" shape, an angle is formed between the point
where the keel meets that horizontal line and the chines. If there were
almost no angle at all, you might have a 5-degree deadrise. As the
angle gets more pronounced, so does the number of degrees "deadrise"
increase. Essentially you're measuring how steep or shallow the "V" is
under the hull. Because this measurement will vary along the length of
the boat, it is customarily taken at the transom, or stern.

Boats with more deadrise tend to handle rough water better. Boats with
flatter bottoms will plane more quickly, but will pound and slam more
easily in a seaway and are less desirable when conditions are a bit
grumpy.


Art Yokell January 14th 06 12:40 PM

dead rise?
 
Nice work!
wrote in message
oups.com...

Bryan wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message
...
It's the inclusive angle of the hull at the transom, from keel to
chine.
JR

Bryan wrote:

What does dead rise mean?
My boat has a 19 degree dead rise.


--
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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth


Thanks, but that didn't help. Want to try a simpler or more illustrative
explanation?



If your boat were a log raft or a sheet of plywood, it would have zero
deadrise.
The perfectly flat bottom would not rise up above a horizonal line
drawn below the boat.
The chines (edges of the bottom, sort of) would rest on that horizontal
line just like the keel.

As the bottom assumes a "V" shape, an angle is formed between the point
where the keel meets that horizontal line and the chines. If there were
almost no angle at all, you might have a 5-degree deadrise. As the
angle gets more pronounced, so does the number of degrees "deadrise"
increase. Essentially you're measuring how steep or shallow the "V" is
under the hull. Because this measurement will vary along the length of
the boat, it is customarily taken at the transom, or stern.

Boats with more deadrise tend to handle rough water better. Boats with
flatter bottoms will plane more quickly, but will pound and slam more
easily in a seaway and are less desirable when conditions are a bit
grumpy.




Bryan January 14th 06 04:26 PM

dead rise?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Bryan wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message
...
It's the inclusive angle of the hull at the transom, from keel to
chine.
JR

Bryan wrote:

What does dead rise mean?
My boat has a 19 degree dead rise.


--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth


Thanks, but that didn't help. Want to try a simpler or more illustrative
explanation?



If your boat were a log raft or a sheet of plywood, it would have zero
deadrise.
The perfectly flat bottom would not rise up above a horizonal line
drawn below the boat.
The chines (edges of the bottom, sort of) would rest on that horizontal
line just like the keel.

As the bottom assumes a "V" shape, an angle is formed between the point
where the keel meets that horizontal line and the chines. If there were
almost no angle at all, you might have a 5-degree deadrise. As the
angle gets more pronounced, so does the number of degrees "deadrise"
increase. Essentially you're measuring how steep or shallow the "V" is
under the hull. Because this measurement will vary along the length of
the boat, it is customarily taken at the transom, or stern.

Boats with more deadrise tend to handle rough water better. Boats with
flatter bottoms will plane more quickly, but will pound and slam more
easily in a seaway and are less desirable when conditions are a bit
grumpy.


Thank you. Nice answer. For perspective, where does 19 degrees fall on
the scale. Is it very little dead rise or a lot of dead rise or right in
the middle? Maybe it's a question that has too many factors to answer, but
I'll ask anyway.



Bryan January 14th 06 04:26 PM

dead rise?
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:30:12 GMT in rec.boats, Bryan penned the
following thoughts:

What does dead rise mean?
My boat has a 19 degree dead rise.


More info at:
http://www.boats.com/boat-articles/D...orks/1970.html
http://www.cymagazine.ca/onlineExclu...veKeyword=3 4


Thanks for the links, Gene.



Dan Krueger January 14th 06 10:36 PM

dead rise?
 
Bryan wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Bryan wrote:

"JR North" wrote in message
...

It's the inclusive angle of the hull at the transom, from keel to
chine.
JR

Bryan wrote:


What does dead rise mean?
My boat has a 19 degree dead rise.


--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

Thanks, but that didn't help. Want to try a simpler or more illustrative
explanation?



If your boat were a log raft or a sheet of plywood, it would have zero
deadrise.
The perfectly flat bottom would not rise up above a horizonal line
drawn below the boat.
The chines (edges of the bottom, sort of) would rest on that horizontal
line just like the keel.

As the bottom assumes a "V" shape, an angle is formed between the point
where the keel meets that horizontal line and the chines. If there were
almost no angle at all, you might have a 5-degree deadrise. As the
angle gets more pronounced, so does the number of degrees "deadrise"
increase. Essentially you're measuring how steep or shallow the "V" is
under the hull. Because this measurement will vary along the length of
the boat, it is customarily taken at the transom, or stern.

Boats with more deadrise tend to handle rough water better. Boats with
flatter bottoms will plane more quickly, but will pound and slam more
easily in a seaway and are less desirable when conditions are a bit
grumpy.



Thank you. Nice answer. For perspective, where does 19 degrees fall on
the scale. Is it very little dead rise or a lot of dead rise or right in
the middle? Maybe it's a question that has too many factors to answer, but
I'll ask anyway.



It depends on the length and purpose of the boat. 19º +/- 2º is pretty
common for bluewater boats in the 18' - 25' range.

As Chuck said, more deadrise will tend to handle rough water better. If
the boat is very long, the deadrise is less important. Look here for
some more info...

http://powerboat.about.com/od/mainte.../aa012403b.htm

Dan

Dan Krueger January 14th 06 10:40 PM

dead rise?
 
wrote:

Bryan wrote:

"JR North" wrote in message
...

It's the inclusive angle of the hull at the transom, from keel to chine.
JR

Bryan wrote:


What does dead rise mean?
My boat has a 19 degree dead rise.


--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

Thanks, but that didn't help. Want to try a simpler or more illustrative
explanation?




If your boat were a log raft or a sheet of plywood, it would have zero
deadrise.
The perfectly flat bottom would not rise up above a horizonal line
drawn below the boat.
The chines (edges of the bottom, sort of) would rest on that horizontal
line just like the keel.

As the bottom assumes a "V" shape, an angle is formed between the point
where the keel meets that horizontal line and the chines. If there were
almost no angle at all, you might have a 5-degree deadrise. As the
angle gets more pronounced, so does the number of degrees "deadrise"
increase. Essentially you're measuring how steep or shallow the "V" is
under the hull. Because this measurement will vary along the length of
the boat, it is customarily taken at the transom, or stern.

Boats with more deadrise tend to handle rough water better. Boats with
flatter bottoms will plane more quickly, but will pound and slam more
easily in a seaway and are less desirable when conditions are a bit
grumpy.


Good explanation, Chuck.

One thing to point out is the tradeoff. A higher deadrise (assuming a
fairly small boat) will result in more tossing at rest or at anchor.

Dan

Eisboch January 14th 06 10:56 PM

dead rise?
 

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
nk.net...
wrote:


Good explanation, Chuck.

One thing to point out is the tradeoff. A higher deadrise (assuming a
fairly small boat) will result in more tossing at rest or at anchor.

Dan


And, if I remember correctly, more power to achieve and maintain plane.

Eisboch




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