Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

......Melanie Griffith http://www.hogrockcafe.com/melanie_griffith.htm or
Jennifer Love Hewitt http://www.hogrockcafe.com/jennifer_love_hewitt.htm ?

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

"JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...
.....Melanie Griffith http://www.hogrockcafe.com/melanie_griffith.htm or
Jennifer Love Hewitt http://www.hogrockcafe.com/jennifer_love_hewitt.htm ?




Stop staring and decide already! ;-)

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

JimH wrote:
.....Melanie Griffith http://www.hogrockcafe.com/melanie_griffith.htm or
Jennifer Love Hewitt http://www.hogrockcafe.com/jennifer_love_hewitt.htm ?

Both. And hopefully, at the same time!!!

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

JimH wrote:
.....Melanie Griffith http://www.hogrockcafe.com/melanie_griffith.htm or
Jennifer Love Hewitt http://www.hogrockcafe.com/jennifer_love_hewitt.htm ?


Hmmmmmmmm, indeed.

I thought you had an adult or teenaged daughter, but apparently I was
mistaken.

As an aside, wouldn't it be good form to let people know when you're
linking them to a soft porn site? Maybe "clits and tits" would be a
better title for the thread. :-)

Don't these peek-a-boos into the realms of pubescent fantasy often
result in
a barrage of aggravating spam and invites to hard core sites?

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
.....Melanie Griffith http://www.hogrockcafe.com/melanie_griffith.htm or
Jennifer Love Hewitt http://www.hogrockcafe.com/jennifer_love_hewitt.htm
?


Hmmmmmmmm, indeed.

I thought you had an adult or teenaged daughter, but apparently I was
mistaken.


No, you are not mistaken. And she has seen the site and had no problem with
it, as did my wife.


As an aside, wouldn't it be good form to let people know when you're
linking them to a soft porn site? Maybe "clits and tits" would be a
better title for the thread. :-)

"Clits and tits"? I saw no clits. And that word alone may be offensive to
some. Perhaps you should have given a warning. ;-)

If the site offended you or anyone else here I apologize. In hindsight
perhaps I should have put a warning in the original post so as not to offend
folks like you who may not appreciate the pure beauty and splendor of a
woman's body.

The images on that site are no worse than one would see in a Playboy
magazine, a magazine my wife and I bought for our son when he was 13 so he
could realize that women are not sex toys and that their bodies are a thing
of beauty.

BTW: The link to the site was posted here several months ago and I do not
recall anyone being offended by it then. ;-)

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
.....Melanie Griffith http://www.hogrockcafe.com/melanie_griffith.htm
or
Jennifer Love Hewitt http://www.hogrockcafe.com/jennifer_love_hewitt.htm
?


Hmmmmmmmm, indeed.

I thought you had an adult or teenaged daughter, but apparently I was
mistaken.


No, you are not mistaken. And she has seen the site and had no problem
with it, as did my wife (seeing it and not being offended by it).


As an aside, wouldn't it be good form to let people know when you're
linking them to a soft porn site? Maybe "clits and tits" would be a
better title for the thread. :-)

"Clits and tits"? I saw no clits. And that word alone may be offensive
to some. Perhaps you should have given a warning. ;-)

If the site offended you or anyone else here I apologize. In hindsight
perhaps I should have put a warning in the original post so as not to
offend folks like you who may not appreciate the pure beauty and splendor
of a woman's body.

The images on that site are no worse than one would see in a Playboy
magazine, a magazine my wife and I bought for our son when he was 13 so he
could realize that women are not sex toys and that their bodies are a
thing of beauty.

BTW: The link to the site was posted here several months ago and I do not
recall anyone being offended by it then. ;-)


Edit

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Geez, Chuck, you really are turning into a netcop, and that's not a
pretty picture. Do you really think that the naked or near-naked female
form is "soft porn?"

If so, I suggest you NOT click on this:

http://tinyurl.com/762w4

Thanks for the warning.

Ms. Griffith is nearly 50, and Ms. Hewitt is at least in her mid 20's,
hardly the stuff of pubescent fantasy, eh?

There was more on those sites than those two women. Besides, this is a
boating ng, is it not?

-Greg

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

"Dene" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Geez, Chuck, you really are turning into a netcop, and that's not a
pretty picture. Do you really think that the naked or near-naked female
form is "soft porn?"

If so, I suggest you NOT click on this:

http://tinyurl.com/762w4

Thanks for the warning.


It was a very pornographic picture and you should be glad you did not click
on the link.

Harry should be ashamed of himself for posting such filth. ;-)



Ms. Griffith is nearly 50, and Ms. Hewitt is at least in her mid 20's,
hardly the stuff of pubescent fantasy, eh?

There was more on those sites than those two women.


Glad to see that you enjoyed viewing the entire site after looking at the 2
women I orignally posted.


Besides, this is a
boating ng, is it not?

-Greg



Yep. So tell us about your boat Greg.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message news:wqqdnZ-

"Clits and tits"? I saw no clits. And that word alone may be offensive
to
some. Perhaps you should have given a warning. ;-)

If the site offended you or anyone else here I apologize. In hindsight
perhaps I should have put a warning in the original post so as not to
offend
folks like you who may not appreciate the pure beauty and splendor of a
woman's body.

The images on that site are no worse than one would see in a Playboy
magazine, a magazine my wife and I bought for our son when he was 13 so he
could realize that women are not sex toys and that their bodies are a
thing
of beauty.

Wouldn't it be easier to have your wife pose naked in front of him?

Playboy is a celebration of a woman's body. Art....so to speak.
Hmmmmmmm.......

When I was 12, my pals and I chipped in quarters to buy Playboy, then sold
the pictures to the neighborhood boys while keeping the best ones ourselves.
Worked great until my mother discovered my stash while I was looking at
them. Should have used the "celebration of a woman's body" argument, but
the bulge in my drawers
said otherwise.

-Greg

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
JimH wrote:
.....Melanie Griffith http://www.hogrockcafe.com/melanie_griffith.htm or
Jennifer Love Hewitt http://www.hogrockcafe.com/jennifer_love_hewitt.htm ?


Hmmmmmmmm, indeed.

I thought you had an adult or teenaged daughter, but apparently I was
mistaken.

As an aside, wouldn't it be good form to let people know when you're
linking them to a soft porn site? Maybe "clits and tits" would be a
better title for the thread. :-)

Don't these peek-a-boos into the realms of pubescent fantasy often
result in
a barrage of aggravating spam and invites to hard core sites?



Geez, Chuck, you really are turning into a netcop, and that's not a
pretty picture. Do you really think that the naked or near-naked female
form is "soft porn?"

If so, I suggest you NOT click on this:

http://tinyurl.com/762w4


Ms. Griffith is nearly 50, and Ms. Hewitt is at least in her mid 20's,
hardly the stuff of pubescent fantasy, eh?


There are few things more beautiful in nature than the female human
body.
It's a good thing that at least the male half of humanity feels that
way, or we'd die out as a species pretty darn quickly.

I think that the exploitation of human beings is offensive, and that's
what makes a photo pornographic in my opinion. The *******s that run
these soft porn sites "hire" desperate young women to disrobe for a
rock of crack cocaine, and then sell the photos of these victimized
young women to equally desparate and sexually frustrated old men for
ridiculous amounts of money. Few people who care about social equity,
justice, and hope to provide a better world environment for young women
(and that group usually includes most people with a grown or growing
daughter) and who give any thought at all to the ramifications of this
"industry" will support it.

The site that we were sent to had a list of maybe a couple of hundred
pages where the titles suggest one can see a bunch of anonymous,
desperate young women, (maybe men too), being forced into degrading
acts and poses.

I thought you were probably too sophisticated to be fooled by a photo
sequence that begins with a legitimate picture of a well-known
celebrity and then switches to an anonymous double when the clothes
start coming off.

If either of these women wanted to take their clothes off for money,
they wouldn't need to resort to posting the pictures on a cheesy soft
porn site where a bunch of drooling old farts can get a free peek- and
the photography would be much, much, better.

A woman displaying her body spontaneously and naturally is very
alluring. A woman displaying her body in exchange for dope or almost no
money, while some greasy clown with a coke habit and who hasn't seen a
bar of soap in weeks tells her, "spread it with your fingers a little
more, baby, and hold that pose while we adjust the light" is not a
thing of beauty. It's one of the saddest aspects of humanity.

Besides, remember back in high school? Who were the guys out
fantasizing under the bleachers with Playboy magazine? As I recall, it
was almost always the poor deprived geeks who weren't getting any of
the real stuff after school or at least on the occasional Saturday
night. The more they talked, and the more they salivated over girlie
photos, the less they usually got. Its so darn easy to get a real
woman, why would anybody waste time with a fantasy?

And how am I a net cop? Did I tell JimH he shouldn't post that here?
No. While I did suggest it might be appropriate to warn people visiting
a boating newsgroup when he posts a link to a soft porn site, I
certainly wouldn't presume to demand that he include a warning. I
believe a warning would be appropriate, (might even result in a greater
number of visits to the site), and exercised my right to express that
opinion.

Oh, and the pubescent fantasy? That refers to the over-the-top reaction
from guys who are so thrilled to see a breast, or a vagina, that they
act like pubescent teenagers. Has nothing to do with the age of the
alleged models.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

JimH wrote:


"Clits and tits"? I saw no clits. And that word alone may be offensive to
some. Perhaps you should have given a warning. ;-)

If you saw no clits, you didn't bother to look at the site you posted.
One of the celebrities has a photo layout that begins with her wearing
an evening gown, proceeds to exposed breasts, and ends up with "her"
squatting naked on a bed fingering her exposed sexual organ.

If you are going to post a link, you should know what's there. IMO.


If the site offended you or anyone else here I apologize. In hindsight
perhaps I should have put a warning in the original post so as not to offend
folks like you who may not appreciate the pure beauty and splendor of a
woman's body.

No apology required.
There's a difference between noting that a site is offensive and being
personally offended.
I'm not effected one way or another by soft porn, except to feel that
it's pretty tragic for the victims on both the buying and selling end.




The images on that site are no worse than one would see in a Playboy
magazine, a magazine my wife and I bought for our son when he was 13 so he
could realize that women are not sex toys and that their bodies are a thing
of beauty.

BTW: The link to the site was posted here several months ago and I do not
recall anyone being offended by it then. ;-)

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

Glad to see that you enjoyed viewing the entire site after looking at the
2
women I orignally posted.

Pretty hard to miss the links of various women on the bottom.

Besides, this is a
boating ng, is it not?

-Greg

Yep. So tell us about your boat Greg.

Which one? 18' Reinell or 25' Starcraft cruiser? ;

I do intend to post my newbie impressions of Portland's boat show tomorrow.
Can't wait.

-Greg

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:


"Clits and tits"? I saw no clits. And that word alone may be offensive
to
some. Perhaps you should have given a warning. ;-)

If you saw no clits, you didn't bother to look at the site you posted.
One of the celebrities has a photo layout that begins with her wearing
an evening gown, proceeds to exposed breasts, and ends up with "her"
squatting naked on a bed fingering her exposed sexual organ.

Glad to see you enjoyed perusing through the site Chuck. ;-)

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

wrote:
JimH wrote:
.....Melanie Griffith http://www.hogrockcafe.com/melanie_griffith.htm or
Jennifer Love Hewitt http://www.hogrockcafe.com/jennifer_love_hewitt.htm ?


Hmmmmmmmm, indeed.

I thought you had an adult or teenaged daughter, but apparently I was
As someone who didn't look at these links, my preference was for Phoebe
Cates

--
Reggie
************************************************** *********************
If you would like to make rec.boats an enjoyable place to discuss
boating, please do not respond to the political and inflammatory
off- topic posts and flames.
************************************************** *********************

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

If the site offended you or anyone else here I apologize. In hindsight
perhaps I should have put a warning in the original post so as not to
offend folks like you who may not appreciate the pure beauty and splendor
of a woman's body.

The images on that site are no worse than one would see in a Playboy
magazine, a magazine my wife and I bought for our son when he was 13 so he
could realize that women are not sex toys and that their bodies are a
thing of beauty.

Fascinating!

I told my son not to bring material such as Playboy et al into our home or
to purchase any such material, because I wanted him to show respect to
women.
I've also taught him to not bring rap or hip hop into our home or to
purchase such material because of it's blatant and pervasive degradation of
women and promotion of drugs and violence.

It's amazing how differently we all see things and decide right from wrong
for ourselves.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
.. .

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

If the site offended you or anyone else here I apologize. In hindsight
perhaps I should have put a warning in the original post so as not to
offend folks like you who may not appreciate the pure beauty and splendor
of a woman's body.

The images on that site are no worse than one would see in a Playboy
magazine, a magazine my wife and I bought for our son when he was 13 so
he could realize that women are not sex toys and that their bodies are a
thing of beauty.

Fascinating!

I told my son not to bring material such as Playboy et al into our home or
to purchase any such material, because I wanted him to show respect to
women.


Don't kid yourself. Kids have easy access to porn sites and all boys visit
them, whether you know it or not. They also experiment with their body, if
you know what I mean, whether you know it or not.

They will get their jollies one way or another.

We choice the Playboy route vs. raunchy internet site. Heck, we even gave
him the Victoria Secret catalogues after my wife was done with them.


I've also taught him to not bring rap or hip hop into our home or to
purchase such material because of it's blatant and pervasive degradation
of women and promotion of drugs and violence.

Again, they will listen to it one way or another if they want to. You can
certainly help mold his character and morals, but boys will experiment. I
did.......as I am sure you did.

We chose to teach our son about the real world and right from wrong, rather
than shield him from it.




It's amazing how differently we all see things and decide right from wrong
for ourselves.



I guess so. ;-)

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
.. .

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

If the site offended you or anyone else here I apologize. In hindsight
perhaps I should have put a warning in the original post so as not to
offend folks like you who may not appreciate the pure beauty and
splendor
of a woman's body.

The images on that site are no worse than one would see in a Playboy
magazine, a magazine my wife and I bought for our son when he was 13 so
he could realize that women are not sex toys and that their bodies are
a
thing of beauty.

Fascinating!

I told my son not to bring material such as Playboy et al into our home
or
to purchase any such material, because I wanted him to show respect to
women.


Don't kid yourself. Kids have easy access to porn sites and all boys
visit
them, whether you know it or not. They also experiment with their body,
if
you know what I mean, whether you know it or not.

They will get their jollies one way or another.

So....did you show your son this site or did he show it to you? ;

-Greg

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
.. .

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

If the site offended you or anyone else here I apologize. In hindsight
perhaps I should have put a warning in the original post so as not to
offend folks like you who may not appreciate the pure beauty and
splendor of a woman's body.

The images on that site are no worse than one would see in a Playboy
magazine, a magazine my wife and I bought for our son when he was 13 so
he could realize that women are not sex toys and that their bodies are a
thing of beauty.

Fascinating!

I told my son not to bring material such as Playboy et al into our home
or to purchase any such material, because I wanted him to show respect to
women.


Don't kid yourself. Kids have easy access to porn sites and all boys
visit them, whether you know it or not. They also experiment with their
body, if you know what I mean, whether you know it or not.

They will get their jollies one way or another.

We choice the Playboy route vs. raunchy internet site. Heck, we even gave
him the Victoria Secret catalogues after my wife was done with them.


I've also taught him to not bring rap or hip hop into our home or to
purchase such material because of it's blatant and pervasive degradation
of women and promotion of drugs and violence.

Again, they will listen to it one way or another if they want to. You can
certainly help mold his character and morals, but boys will experiment. I
did.......as I am sure you did.

We chose to teach our son about the real world and right from wrong,
rather than shield him from it.




It's amazing how differently we all see things and decide right from
wrong for ourselves.



I guess so. ;-)


Not kidding anyone! I know he has access to everything on the planet.
I've just asked him not to bring it into our home.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
.. .

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

If the site offended you or anyone else here I apologize. In hindsight
perhaps I should have put a warning in the original post so as not to
offend folks like you who may not appreciate the pure beauty and
splendor of a woman's body.

The images on that site are no worse than one would see in a Playboy
magazine, a magazine my wife and I bought for our son when he was 13 so
he could realize that women are not sex toys and that their bodies are
a thing of beauty.

Fascinating!

I told my son not to bring material such as Playboy et al into our home
or to purchase any such material, because I wanted him to show respect
to women.


Don't kid yourself. Kids have easy access to porn sites and all boys
visit them, whether you know it or not. They also experiment with their
body, if you know what I mean, whether you know it or not.

They will get their jollies one way or another.

We choice the Playboy route vs. raunchy internet site. Heck, we even
gave him the Victoria Secret catalogues after my wife was done with them.


I've also taught him to not bring rap or hip hop into our home or to
purchase such material because of it's blatant and pervasive degradation
of women and promotion of drugs and violence.

Again, they will listen to it one way or another if they want to. You
can certainly help mold his character and morals, but boys will
experiment. I did.......as I am sure you did.

We chose to teach our son about the real world and right from wrong,
rather than shield him from it.




It's amazing how differently we all see things and decide right from
wrong for ourselves.



I guess so. ;-)


Not kidding anyone! I know he has access to everything on the planet.
I've just asked him not to bring it into our home.


Sorry.....I did not mean to lecture you.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
m...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
.. .

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

If the site offended you or anyone else here I apologize. In
hindsight perhaps I should have put a warning in the original post so
as not to offend folks like you who may not appreciate the pure beauty
and splendor of a woman's body.

The images on that site are no worse than one would see in a Playboy
magazine, a magazine my wife and I bought for our son when he was 13
so he could realize that women are not sex toys and that their bodies
are a thing of beauty.

Fascinating!

I told my son not to bring material such as Playboy et al into our home
or to purchase any such material, because I wanted him to show respect
to women.


Don't kid yourself. Kids have easy access to porn sites and all boys
visit them, whether you know it or not. They also experiment with their
body, if you know what I mean, whether you know it or not.

They will get their jollies one way or another.

We choice the Playboy route vs. raunchy internet site. Heck, we even
gave him the Victoria Secret catalogues after my wife was done with
them.


I've also taught him to not bring rap or hip hop into our home or to
purchase such material because of it's blatant and pervasive
degradation of women and promotion of drugs and violence.

Again, they will listen to it one way or another if they want to. You
can certainly help mold his character and morals, but boys will
experiment. I did.......as I am sure you did.

We chose to teach our son about the real world and right from wrong,
rather than shield him from it.




It's amazing how differently we all see things and decide right from
wrong for ourselves.



I guess so. ;-)


Not kidding anyone! I know he has access to everything on the planet.
I've just asked him not to bring it into our home.


Sorry.....I did not mean to lecture you.


No harm felt, Jim. Didn't see it as lecturing, although with hindsight ...
Like I said, it's amazing how differently we all see the same thing, based
on our personal values and experiences and goals.
Bryan

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

AAAHHHHHGGGHHH! My eyes! MY EYES!!!! AAAAGGGGHHH!
JR

JimH wrote:

.....Melanie Griffith http://www.hogrockcafe.com/melanie_griffith.htm or
Jennifer Love Hewitt http://www.hogrockcafe.com/jennifer_love_hewitt.htm ?





--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

Harry Krause wrote:

Thank you for your thoughts on pornography and morality.

You're welcome, Harry.

I wouldn't be surprised to discover that you feel almost the same way
about the objectification of women. Most of my liberal friends and
acquaintances do.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

Bible whacked with hammer.

Harry Krause wrote:

wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
JimH wrote:
.....Melanie Griffith http://www.hogrockcafe.com/melanie_griffith.htm or
Jennifer Love Hewitt http://www.hogrockcafe.com/jennifer_love_hewitt.htm ?

Hmmmmmmmm, indeed.

I thought you had an adult or teenaged daughter, but apparently I was
mistaken.

As an aside, wouldn't it be good form to let people know when you're
linking them to a soft porn site? Maybe "clits and tits" would be a
better title for the thread. :-)

Don't these peek-a-boos into the realms of pubescent fantasy often
result in
a barrage of aggravating spam and invites to hard core sites?


Geez, Chuck, you really are turning into a netcop, and that's not a
pretty picture. Do you really think that the naked or near-naked female
form is "soft porn?"

If so, I suggest you NOT click on this:

http://tinyurl.com/762w4


Ms. Griffith is nearly 50, and Ms. Hewitt is at least in her mid 20's,
hardly the stuff of pubescent fantasy, eh?


There are few things more beautiful in nature than the female human
body.
It's a good thing that at least the male half of humanity feels that
way, or we'd die out as a species pretty darn quickly.

I think

Thank you for your thoughts on pornography and morality.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............
 

Harry Krause wrote:

I don't spend any time worrying about female movie and TV "celebs" who
pose topless or allow themselves to be photographed sans clothes.

Nor does he worry about ordinary females who have to use the bathroom.
He sinply locks it so they can't use it.

-- Charlie