NOYB wrote:
His facts are pretty damn close:
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/fsl2004.pdf


Why not go straight to the IRS? Get your "facts" from the
people who actually know and do not have an axe to grind.

And, if a fact is "almost" right then do you consider it a fact?


The bottom 40% pay only 7.7% of the taxes.

And is this a problem? If they receive only 7.7% (or
thereabouts) of the income, then that's ALL THE TAXES THEY
*_*_*SHOULD*_*_* PAY....

unless of course you believe that the poor & middle class
should work & pay taxes to subsidize the rich.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
His facts are pretty damn close:
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/fsl2004.pdf


Why not go straight to the IRS? Get your "facts" from the people who
actually know and do not have an axe to grind.

And, if a fact is "almost" right then do you consider it a fact?


The bottom 40% pay only 7.7% of the taxes.

And is this a problem? If they receive only 7.7% (or thereabouts) of the
income, then that's ALL THE TAXES THEY *_*_*SHOULD*_*_* PAY....

The bottom 40% earn 10.4% of the income, but pay only 7.7% of the taxes.

The top 40% earn 77.9% of the income, but pay 81.6% of the taxes.


It should be a one-to-one correlation. In other words, if a certain segment
earns 77.9% of the income, they should pay 77.9% of the taxes.

NOYB wrote:
The bottom 40% earn 10.4% of the income, but pay only 7.7% of the taxes.


That's TERRIBLE!
Those lazy SLACKERS!!

Those damn worthless poor people are stealing the bread out
of the mouths of millionaires!

The top 40% earn 77.9% of the income, but pay 81.6% of the taxes.


It should be a one-to-one correlation. In other words, if a certain segment
earns 77.9% of the income, they should pay 77.9% of the taxes.


I wouldn't disagree with that.

OTOH A progressive income tax is fair, if you accept the
premises:
1-Food, shelter, & clothing, the very basics of life, cost a
certain amount and therefor a higher percentage of poor
people's income devoted to them.
2- The richer a person is, the more benefits he gains from
our social/economic/legal network and thus is obligated to
offer more to support it.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...

2- The richer a person is, the more benefits he gains from our
social/economic/legal network and thus is obligated to offer more to
support it.

You keep repeating this inaccuracy. As Fred pointed out, the poor receive
the lion's share of government entitlements.

How many millionaires receive medicaid, welfare, etc? How many utilize the
public transit system? How many bilk the hospitals out of their fees, and
let somebody else's insurance cover the shortage?

2- The richer a person is, the more benefits he gains from our
social/economic/legal network and thus is obligated to offer more to
support it.


NOYB wrote:
You keep repeating this inaccuracy.

It's not inaccurate at all.

Rich people live longer & better than poor people. They have
nicer houses, cars, vacations, etc etc etc.


.... As Fred pointed out, the poor receive
the lion's share of government entitlements.

Actually, that's wrong too. Of course, by naming specific
gov't programs and pretending that this is the only
'benefit' that the gov't offers, you can pretend it's true.



How many millionaires receive medicaid, welfare, etc?

So, by your own theory, getting medicaid & welfare is
"better" than the life of a millionaire?

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
2- The richer a person is, the more benefits he gains from our
social/economic/legal network and thus is obligated to offer more to
support it.


NOYB wrote:
You keep repeating this inaccuracy.

It's not inaccurate at all.

Rich people live longer & better than poor people. They have nicer houses,
cars, vacations, etc etc etc.

So the government buys their houses, cars, and vacations?



.... As Fred pointed out, the poor receive the lion's share of
government entitlements.

Actually, that's wrong too. Of course, by naming specific gov't programs
and pretending that this is the only 'benefit' that the gov't offers, you
can pretend it's true.



How many millionaires receive medicaid, welfare, etc?

So, by your own theory, getting medicaid & welfare is "better" than the
life of a millionaire?

Getting medicaid and welfare means you get more from the government.

So, by your own theory, getting medicaid & welfare is "better" than the
life of a millionaire?


NOYB wrote:
Getting medicaid and welfare means you get more from the government.


Are you one of those libby-rulls that believe *everything*
comes from the gov'mint?

Face facts NOBBY, the rich live better than the poor. They
get a better deal pretty much all the way around. So why
should they not pay more for the system that gives them such
a good ride?

I remembr you thought it was funny for military recruiters
to defraud kids into enlisting, and that servicemen should
expect to get their benefits cut or ignored. Is this the
same kind of "fair" thinking?

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
His facts are pretty damn close:
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/fsl2004.pdf


Why not go straight to the IRS? Get your "facts" from the people who
actually know and do not have an axe to grind.

And, if a fact is "almost" right then do you consider it a fact?


The bottom 40% pay only 7.7% of the taxes.

And is this a problem? If they receive only 7.7% (or thereabouts) of the
income, then that's ALL THE TAXES THEY *_*_*SHOULD*_*_* PAY....

I'm all for everyone putting in no more than 20% of their income in taxes.
This includes all taxes at all levels and for anything.

unless of course you believe that the poor & middle class should work &
pay taxes to subsidize the rich.

When the bottome 40% are only putting 7.7% into the Fed's coffers then they
shure as hell aren't subsidizing anyone. If they want to pay more taxes then
they can go out and get a job that pays more money!