Paul,

I know Chuck used to say he never would provide a sea trial until a contract
had been signed, but in my area it is normal to have a " sea trial" before a
contract is signed on trailer boats or boats less than 40' that are already
in the water .



"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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Paul,

That brings up an excellent point. If you are selling the boat and you
want
to get the maximum price for the boat, you do need to make it very easy
for
the buyer to know all of the features and benefits of the boat, and
make it
easy for him to see the boat.

I would not provide a "sea trial" for someone just walking the docks,
but if
someone
had seen the boat and knew the "asking price" and made a reasonable
counter
offer, I would provide a sea trial to firm up my price. After all, if
you
have a "cherry of a boat" the buyer will not want to let it slip
through his
fingers. He will be more inclined to pay top price if he get behind
the
helm and his emotions started to take over.

Especially in boats of the size we are talking about.......it is
different for the mega yacht crowd, that has money to throw around, but
people that are buying in the under 40' range typically have a set budget,
and are not going to be willing to toss money at something for nothing.
(buy the time they pay for a survey, they are pretty much committed on
buying the boat)


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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Paul,

I am not sure if you statement about Harry is correct, but I would
think
most people would be hesitant to buy a boat from someone who says
"Guess my
price"? Harry is not only asking for JohnH to make an offer, but
even
after
JohnH makes his offer, Harry will not make a counter offer, he will
just
play the "Cold, Colder, getting Warmer" game. I have to be honest,
I
have
never heard of anyone selling anything with a "Standing Room Only"
attitude,
refusing to provide details of the product being sold, and refusing
to
provide an asking price or a even providing a counter offer.

Very strange indeed.

It does highlight one of the disadvantages of buying a used boat.
You
have
to contend with amateurs selling a boat who are too emotionally
attached or
who make unreasonable demands to the boat to facilitate the sale.

Maybe harry's wife is demanding he sell the boat ;-)

If I were selling a boat myself over the winter, I would have
tarped
it, so that a potential buyer could look at it. After all the second
happiest day of boat ownership is when you sell it. Why would anyone
with any smarts make it difficult for a potential buyer?








"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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" JimH" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 03:17:50 GMT, "NOYB"
wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JohnH wrote:
On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, "

wrote:

We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we
really
buy
one
if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is
ideal
for
me. A
larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more
expense.
My
28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of
things
but
small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a
lot.
The
older
I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This
past 6
months
is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I
kept
her
at
pvt
docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard
about
for
years,
"A boats use is inversely proportional to her length".
Do
others
here
have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want
a
bigger
boat?
I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After
a
while
I
convince myself
that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine.

But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that
Parker,
I'd
give
it
serious
thought.


There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000.
It
has
a
lesser
engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an
"equivalent."
Assume
for the moment it is. What's your best offer?
There's an '02 on thehulltruth.com for $53,500:


http://thehulltruth.com/forums/threa...81563&posts=13

That one sounds like a pretty good deal. Look at all the
electronics
included!
Thanks, NOYB.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible
and
necessary
to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


This thread obviously shows that you would be getting a raw
deal
on
Krause's boat.

It is obvious that you should walk away from this *deal*,
especially
with
a seller reluctant to give even basic information about the
boat
(engine
hours).


Hehehe. I'm sure you, Smithers, and the rest of my "fans" here
would
love
to put the hex on any such deal.

John knows how to contact me. If he's a serious buyer he will.
My
reluctance is to do business *here* among the drooling idiots
like
you,
Skipper, Smithers, Fritz, et cetera.


Hey, if you don't know how to properly negotiate a deal or
properly
price a
boat that is your problem Harry.

I can see the spittle forming at the corners of you mouth when
you
reply to
me. After all, I proved you wrong about the boat weight and
the
total
weight of a 5.7L engine with Bravo II outdrive.

But that's OK Harry. You will get over it.

Most people that post here are too smart to ever do business with
someone
like harry.

Reggie Smithers wrote:

Paul,

I know Chuck used to say he never would provide a sea trial until a contract
had been signed, but in my area it is normal to have a "sea trial" before a
contract is signed on trailer boats or boats less than 40' that are already
in the water .

Chuck is not what most would consider a good and honest buyers broker.
He represents the worst of the industry...and experienced the fate of
most of these charlatans, moving quickly from job to job and then out of
the business. Fortunately, he is no longer a broker.

--
Skipper