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You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht, pilot
house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?

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" JimH" wrote in message
. ..
You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht,
pilot house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?


No question about it - a 34' Mainship, the Sedan version:
http://www.mainship.com/models/34/34.html

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" JimH" wrote in message
. ..
You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht,
pilot house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?


I'd go for a bigger sailboat, hire a crew, and spend the next 3+ years
sailing the Mediterranean. I'd love to get back to the Greek Isles.

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"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
. ..
You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some
foot boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht,
pilot house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?


I'd go for a bigger sailboat, hire a crew, and spend the next 3+ years
sailing the Mediterranean. I'd love to get back to the Greek Isles.


Sounds like a plan!

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
. ..
You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some
foot boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht,
pilot house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?


No question about it - a 34' Mainship, the Sedan version:
http://www.mainship.com/models/34/34.html



Very nice looking boat Doug.

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:25:48 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager
DOTnet wrote:


" JimH" wrote in message
...
You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht,
pilot house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?


I'd go for a bigger sailboat, hire a crew, and spend the next 3+ years
sailing the Mediterranean. I'd love to get back to the Greek Isles.

A "50 some foot" boat?

To presume to staying in that range, a Hallett 540-T would be a fun
toy. But a Hinckley T55 would be a classy ride. But who wouldn't like
the lines of a Riva 52 Rivale...

Wow...too many choices right now.

__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

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" JimH" wrote in message
. ..

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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" JimH" wrote in message
. ..
You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some
foot boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht,
pilot house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?


No question about it - a 34' Mainship, the Sedan version:
http://www.mainship.com/models/34/34.html



Very nice looking boat Doug.


I was at a marina last year to buy some charts, and one of those boats
stopped me dead in my tracks. Salesman came out to ask if I wanted to see
the inside. I told him there was no way in hell I could afford it. He said
"So?" :-) Smart salesman!

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JimH wrote:
You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht, pilot
house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?


50-feet? Somebody else's money?
I've always been partial to these:

http://www.nordhavn.com/50/overview.php4

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Hi JimH.: I would like to have the Gozzard G53 MY as seen on this
site. www.gozzard.com This is very close to Bayfield and is a
perfect boat for cruising anywhere. I just love it.

I could sit in the pilot house and read this new book that I received
today in the mail. It is called "The War on Christmas" and it was
sent to me by a real gentleman!

Thanks for sending it to me.

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield

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wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some
foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht,
pilot
house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?


50-feet? Somebody else's money?
I've always been partial to these:

http://www.nordhavn.com/50/overview.php4


There's one for sale at my marina. Been drooling over it for a couple of
months. 50 footer, with stabilizers. Awesome.

Eisboch

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"Jim carter" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi JimH.: I would like to have the Gozzard G53 MY as seen on this
site. www.gozzard.com This is very close to Bayfield and is a
perfect boat for cruising anywhere. I just love it.

I could sit in the pilot house and read this new book that I received
today in the mail. It is called "The War on Christmas" and it was
sent to me by a real gentleman!

Thanks for sending it to me.

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield


You are quite welcome Jim.

BTW: Another nice choice of boat, as was Chucks.. ;-)

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You are quite welcome Jim.

BTW: Another nice choice of boat, as was Chucks.. ;-)

The Gozzard is made in Canada, therfore it is a duty free boat for any
of you American buyers. The fit and finish of this vessel is the
finest I have ever seen. It is a work of art and so beautiful on the
water. It is also less expensive than the Nordhaven. The Gozzard is
made in the next harbor to the north of Bayfield, in Goderich Ontario.

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:02:41 -0500, " JimH" wrote:

You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht,
pilot
house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?

http://www.hatterasyachts.com/68ext.cfm

with the 2400 BHP engines.

Did you check out the displacement on that baby? 126,500 lbs. Woa!

Eisboch

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:42:52 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Jim carter" wrote in message
roups.com...

I'm easy. I'd settle for this on the Bay.

http://www.offshoremag.net/reviews/monk_36/

But, if money were absolutely no object, I'd take the Nordhavn!
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

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JimH wrote:

You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht, pilot
house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?


Easy for me - The Azimut 50.

http://www.azimutyachts.com/gallery_azimut50.htm

Must have been a BIG lottery payout!

Dan

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I am very happy with my 28' S2 and do not want a bigger boat. I might
buy a 14' Laser just for fun. Bigger boats =bigger problems and less
fun.

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some
foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht,
pilot
house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?


50-feet? Somebody else's money?
I've always been partial to these:

http://www.nordhavn.com/50/overview.php4


There's one for sale at my marina. Been drooling over it for a couple of
months. 50 footer, with stabilizers. Awesome.

You retired guys have too much time on your hands. I couldn't stand being
on something so slooooooooowww.

For me, it's a toss up:

http://www.hatterasyachts.com/50about.cfm

http://www.vikingyachts.com/models/52c/52c_main.asp

http://www.bertram.com/models/510/

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:30:47 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

http://www.vikingyachts.com/models/52c/52c_main.asp

IF I had the money, that Viking would be tempting.

I've ridden on one, drove it around, it's a sweet ride. Great to fish
off of too.

One other I'd consider is this:

http://www.caboyachts.com/yachts/52X...ssOverview.asp

I've been on one of these too - very sweet.

Cabos are nice...very well-built. But I've heard mixed opinions on how well
they ride.

I've never heard a negative about the Vikings.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:30:47 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

http://www.vikingyachts.com/models/52c/52c_main.asp

IF I had the money, that Viking would be tempting.

I've ridden on one, drove it around, it's a sweet ride. Great to fish
off of too.

One other I'd consider is this:

http://www.caboyachts.com/yachts/52X...ssOverview.asp

I've been on one of these too - very sweet.

I have friends with Noosa Cats from Oz. the 40' is nice, and cruises in the
high 20's.

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:30:47 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

For me, it's a toss up:

http://www.hatterasyachts.com/50about.cfm

http://www.vikingyachts.com/models/52c/52c_main.asp

http://www.bertram.com/models/510/

====================================

Go with the Bertram. Their engineering and construction quality is
the best I've seen.

Bring money.

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Anybody know about these boats? I saw one this weekend tied up to a dock in
Marco:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...rl&slim=broker





"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:30:47 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

For me, it's a toss up:

http://www.hatterasyachts.com/50about.cfm

http://www.vikingyachts.com/models/52c/52c_main.asp

http://www.bertram.com/models/510/

====================================

Go with the Bertram. Their engineering and construction quality is
the best I've seen.

Bring money.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:30:47 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

http://www.vikingyachts.com/models/52c/52c_main.asp

IF I had the money, that Viking would be tempting.

I've ridden on one, drove it around, it's a sweet ride. Great to fish
off of too.

One other I'd consider is this:

http://www.caboyachts.com/yachts/52X...ssOverview.asp

I've been on one of these too - very sweet.

Cabos are nice...very well-built. But I've heard mixed opinions on how
well they ride.

I've never heard a negative about the Vikings.


Agree on the Cabos. I did a couple of tuna chasing days on a friend's 35'
Flybridge. Nicely finished boat, but rode hard, even in light to moderate
chop.

If you like Vikings, (as do I) you should also check out:

http://www.riviera.com.au/usa/index.htm

I've spent a little time on one (40' or so). Fit and finish a bit better
than Viking, IMO, and the ride was very impressive given the sloppy day we
went out. Nice boats.

Eisboch

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 03:03:29 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Anybody know about these boats? I saw one this weekend tied up to a dock in
Marco:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...rl&slim=broker

=====================================

It might be a fine boat but for my money I'd want something with a
stronger (and longer) track record.

Bertram, Viking, Hatteras, Cabo...

There are lots of nice ones around for that kind of $$$s.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:30:47 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

http://www.vikingyachts.com/models/52c/52c_main.asp On Wed, 28 Dec
2005 22:14:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



If you like Vikings, (as do I) you should also check out:

http://www.riviera.com.au/usa/index.htm

I've spent a little time on one (40' or so). Fit and finish a bit better
than Viking, IMO, and the ride was very impressive given the sloppy day we
went out. Nice boats.

They have a kind of 50's Modern feel to their design don't they?

Nice looking boats.

Tasteful, not gaudy. I like a boat that looks like a boat.

One thing I learned about some of the sportsfish/sportsyacht boats produced
in recent years:

The hardcore fishing types have been demanding faster boats so they can get
off shore quickly to get in more fishing time. The response from the boat
manufacturers has been to build the boats lighter, modify the hulls for
speed and tweek small displacement diesels for more horsepower. The
downside of this is harder rides and engines that don't last as long between
rebuilds. This is the reason I got rid of the '02, 37' Egg Harbor I had for
a couple of years. It was nicely done, cruised at 30 knots, but beat the
bannanas out of you in anything over 3' footers unless you slowed down to 19
knots or so. I've been spoiled by the Navigator, I guess. Slower, but a
very comfortable ride, even in much higher sea states. Not a fishing boat,
for sure, but a very comfortable cruiser.

Eisboch

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Too much work.

I doubt I'll ever want any boat larger than a 30 or 32 footer.


Just stay away from teak and a 50 footer is little more work than a 30
footer.

Eisboch

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Too much work.

I doubt I'll ever want any boat larger than a 30 or 32 footer.

Harry,
Have you sold your 36' Lobster Boat?

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:43:44 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Just stay away from teak and a 50 footer is little more work than a 30
footer.

===================================

That's true as far as it goes but overall maintenance is a lot higher
on larger boats. The price and complexity of just about everything
goes up about exponentially with length and weight.

Here's an example. I just spent $1400+ to get my props reconditioned,
balanced, repainted and reinstalled. On my old Bertram 33 I could
have had a brand new pair for substantially less than that.

It goes on. The Bert had one zone of heating and air conditioning to
maintain, the GB has 4. The Bert had one fridge to maintain, the GB
has 3 plus a deep freeze and ice maker. Refrigeration techs make
about the same as diesel mechanics and are harder to find.

Just put a new raw water pump on my port side engine, $900 with labor.
On the Bert, about $400.

The Bertram 33 used 3 gallons of oil per change + $15 for filters.
The GB uses 12 gallons and $60 for filters.

It begins to add up.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:43:44 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Just stay away from teak and a 50 footer is little more work than a 30
footer.

===================================

That's true as far as it goes but overall maintenance is a lot higher
on larger boats. The price and complexity of just about everything
goes up about exponentially with length and weight.

Here's an example. I just spent $1400+ to get my props reconditioned,
balanced, repainted and reinstalled. On my old Bertram 33 I could
have had a brand new pair for substantially less than that.

It goes on. The Bert had one zone of heating and air conditioning to
maintain, the GB has 4. The Bert had one fridge to maintain, the GB
has 3 plus a deep freeze and ice maker. Refrigeration techs make
about the same as diesel mechanics and are harder to find.

Just put a new raw water pump on my port side engine, $900 with labor.
On the Bert, about $400.

The Bertram 33 used 3 gallons of oil per change + $15 for filters.
The GB uses 12 gallons and $60 for filters.

It begins to add up.


I suppose. So far, other than buying a set of spare props, a few oil
changes and a new fresh water pump, I haven't had any equipment problems on
the Navigator. Oh, and the joystick controllers for the thrusters that I
haven't replaced yet. I've had the boat for five years now, so that isn't
too bad. Also have four A/C heat pump units, but only two refrigerators. All
are working fine.

1400+ bucks for prop reconditioning? Wow! I purchased two spares (30d x
30p, four bladed) for 800 bucks each.

I took Harry's post as meaning too much work in terms of cleaning and normal
maintenance, but I understand your point.

Eisboch

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For some nice cruising to the Caribbean and the Mediterranean.

http://www.valiantsailboats.com/mac/mac50photo.htm



"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:14:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:30:47 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

http://www.vikingyachts.com/models/52c/52c_main.asp

IF I had the money, that Viking would be tempting.

I've ridden on one, drove it around, it's a sweet ride. Great to fish
off of too.

One other I'd consider is this:

http://www.caboyachts.com/yachts/52X...ssOverview.asp

I've been on one of these too - very sweet.

Cabos are nice...very well-built. But I've heard mixed opinions on how
well they ride.

I've never heard a negative about the Vikings.

Agree on the Cabos. I did a couple of tuna chasing days on a friend's 35'
Flybridge. Nicely finished boat, but rode hard, even in light to moderate
chop.

If you like Vikings, (as do I) you should also check out:

http://www.riviera.com.au/usa/index.htm

I've spent a little time on one (40' or so). Fit and finish a bit better
than Viking, IMO, and the ride was very impressive given the sloppy day we
went out. Nice boats.

They have a kind of 50's Modern feel to their design don't they?

Nice looking boats.

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:55:48 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

JimH wrote:

You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht, pilot
house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?



I think if price was no object I'd get a small all-weather freighter
and have it refitted for my personal use.
Mark E. Williams

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:23:13 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:

I think if price was no object I'd get a small all-weather freighter
and have it refitted for my personal use.

=====================================

I've actually seen a few of those conversions, OK if you want a deep
draft long range vessel that looks like a freighter. Lots of storage
space that's for sure.

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" JimH" wrote in message
. ..
You just won the lottery and plan to purchase (new or used) a 50 some foot
boat. Money is no object.

First of all, what style would you choose.......cruiser, motor yacht,
pilot
house, trawler, convertible, tug, catamaran, sailboat or other?

Now what specific make and model?

Regal 32 footer with all the options. Perfect for two people. Small enough
to put in any marina. 40+ size are too nervewracking for this pilot.

-Greg

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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:26:46 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

WAs it John Wayne who converted a surplus mine sweeper in to some kind
of megayacht?

Not sure but it's easy to imagine him in that kind of thing. Damn the
torpedoes...

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:33:26 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:23:13 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:

I think if price was no object I'd get a small all-weather freighter
and have it refitted for my personal use.

=====================================

I've actually seen a few of those conversions, OK if you want a deep
draft long range vessel that looks like a freighter. Lots of storage
space that's for sure.

WAs it John Wayne who converted a surplus mine sweeper in to some kind
of megayacht?

After WWII there were lots of conversions. Family friend, commercial
fisherman, converted a 63' air-sea rescue boat. My dad replaced the engines
in a PT with Grey Marine diesels sometime in the early 1950's.

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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:25:28 GMT, "Bill McKee" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:33:26 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:23:13 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:

I think if price was no object I'd get a small all-weather freighter
and have it refitted for my personal use.

=====================================

I've actually seen a few of those conversions, OK if you want a deep
draft long range vessel that looks like a freighter. Lots of storage
space that's for sure.

WAs it John Wayne who converted a surplus mine sweeper in to some kind
of megayacht?

After WWII there were lots of conversions. Family friend, commercial
fisherman, converted a 63' air-sea rescue boat. My dad replaced the engines
in a PT with Grey Marine diesels sometime in the early 1950's.


I just posted, on alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean, two pictures of island
freighters taken at St. Maartens Island. I'd settle for either one, with a little
paint of course. The second choice one was hand built in the islands.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:17:55 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:25:28 GMT, "Bill McKee" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:33:26 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:23:13 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
wrote:

I think if price was no object I'd get a small all-weather freighter
and have it refitted for my personal use.

=====================================

I've actually seen a few of those conversions, OK if you want a deep
draft long range vessel that looks like a freighter. Lots of storage
space that's for sure.

WAs it John Wayne who converted a surplus mine sweeper in to some kind
of megayacht?

After WWII there were lots of conversions. Family friend, commercial
fisherman, converted a 63' air-sea rescue boat. My dad replaced the engines
in a PT with Grey Marine diesels sometime in the early 1950's.


I just posted, on alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean, two pictures of island
freighters taken at St. Maartens Island. I'd settle for either one, with a little
paint of course. The second choice one was hand built in the islands.

But, for some reason the headers don't show up. Maybe you can see them, but I can't!

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes