A wasted day
 

I said I'd go sailin' and I should have. It was a wasted day at work.
Damned employees have screwed up. If'n ya ever go inta business, rely
only on yourself, dont hire anybody and you'll be happier.

A wasted day
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
I said I'd go sailin' and I should have. It was a wasted day at work.
Damned employees have screwed up. If'n ya ever go inta business, rely
only on yourself, dont hire anybody and you'll be happier.


With Christmas falling on a Sunday why was today not a paid time off holiday
for them?

A wasted day
 

wrote:
I said I'd go sailin' and I should have. It was a wasted day at work.
Damned employees have screwed up. If'n ya ever go inta business, rely
only on yourself, dont hire anybody and you'll be happier.

The staff at my Canadian publisher's got the 23, 24, 25, and 26 off for
the holiday. The 23rd and 26th were both paid, "stat" (legal) holidays.
Ebeneezer Scrooge would have been apoplectic, with Bob Cratchitt
picking his pocket *twice*! :-)

Back to business as usual tomorrow. All the stores will be hyping "only
363 days until next Christmas!"

I read an interesting theory about how Christmas giving actually has a
negative impact on the economy. The theorist postulated that while
there is no doubt that a lot more money is spent during the Holiday
season, the nature of the items purchased is frequently of much lower
actual worth or intrinsic value. We tend to pay far more, for far less,
when we shop for gifts and there is some negative impact associated
with the distortion from the normal price/value relationships that we
adhere to when we shop during the rest of the year. How many of us
would spend $75 for six oranges, three apples, a half dozen mediocre
chocolates, a cardboard box, and some fancy paper 11 months out of the
year? Not many, I'm sure, but tens of millions of these "gift boxes"
and similar values are sold every December.

A wasted day
 

This whole week is a holiday for em. I went into work, not them.
Their screw up was last week.

A wasted day
 

Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...

I said I'd go sailin' and I should have. It was a wasted day at work.
Damned employees have screwed up. If'n ya ever go inta business, rely
only on yourself, dont hire anybody and you'll be happier.


With Christmas falling on a Sunday why was today not a paid time off
holiday for them?



Most decent employers give all or most of their employees off the day
after Christmas if the holiday falls on a Sunday. Retail is different,
but retail isn't really decent employment.

Back in the dark ages, when I worked for The AP, we got triple time if
we worked a legal holiday. I signed up for as many as I could.

Retail isn't decent employment? Imagine if all of the welfare
recipients had a job at a retail store, like West Marine.

Dan

A wasted day
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Dan Krueger wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...

I said I'd go sailin' and I should have. It was a wasted day at work.
Damned employees have screwed up. If'n ya ever go inta business, rely
only on yourself, dont hire anybody and you'll be happier.

With Christmas falling on a Sunday why was today not a paid time off
holiday for them?


Most decent employers give all or most of their employees off the day
after Christmas if the holiday falls on a Sunday. Retail is different,
but retail isn't really decent employment.

Back in the dark ages, when I worked for The AP, we got triple time if
we worked a legal holiday. I signed up for as many as I could.

Retail isn't decent employment? Imagine if all of the welfare recipients
had a job at a retail store, like West Marine.

Dan

Decent employment pays wages sufficient enough to completely support a
person or perhaps half of a family, along with health care insurance, a
decent pension plan, and other benefits.

Want decent employment? Get a decent education or learn a decent trade.

The world owes no one a decent living. You have to want it, work for it and
earn it.

A wasted day
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
I said I'd go sailin' and I should have. It was a wasted day at work.
Damned employees have screwed up. If'n ya ever go inta business, rely
only on yourself, dont hire anybody and you'll be happier.

The staff at my Canadian publisher's got the 23, 24, 25, and 26 off for
the holiday. The 23rd and 26th were both paid, "stat" (legal) holidays.
Ebeneezer Scrooge would have been apoplectic, with Bob Cratchitt
picking his pocket *twice*! :-)

Back to business as usual tomorrow. All the stores will be hyping "only
363 days until next Christmas!"

I read an interesting theory about how Christmas giving actually has a
negative impact on the economy. The theorist postulated that while
there is no doubt that a lot more money is spent during the Holiday
season, the nature of the items purchased is frequently of much lower
actual worth or intrinsic value. We tend to pay far more, for far less,
when we shop for gifts and there is some negative impact associated
with the distortion from the normal price/value relationships that we
adhere to when we shop during the rest of the year. How many of us
would spend $75 for six oranges, three apples, a half dozen mediocre
chocolates, a cardboard box, and some fancy paper 11 months out of the
year? Not many, I'm sure, but tens of millions of these "gift boxes"
and similar values are sold every December.


And the huge discounts. Bought the wife her anniversery gift before
Christmas. 70% of on a diamond bracelet. Normally you would only find a
50% sale during the year.

A wasted day
 

The thread has turned into politics so end it. I did go to my boat
today to do some work. I also went by the lab first and oddly about
half of my people were there. I reminded them they did not have to be
there and i was leaving after a few minutes but they all wanted to get
stuff done. Some may have screwed up last week but I have done worse
and they are all self motivated so I cannot complain. We are trying to
plan a Parallax Research, Inc. "Water Day" where I will have one 28'
sailboat, a sailboard, a canoe, an inflatable kayak, and two 12'
MiniCup sailboats. Maybe some time in March.

A wasted day
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
I said I'd go sailin' and I should have. It was a wasted day at work.
Damned employees have screwed up. If'n ya ever go inta business, rely
only on yourself, dont hire anybody and you'll be happier.
The staff at my Canadian publisher's got the 23, 24, 25, and 26 off for
the holiday. The 23rd and 26th were both paid, "stat" (legal) holidays.
Ebeneezer Scrooge would have been apoplectic, with Bob Cratchitt
picking his pocket *twice*! :-)

Back to business as usual tomorrow. All the stores will be hyping "only
363 days until next Christmas!"

I read an interesting theory about how Christmas giving actually has a
negative impact on the economy. The theorist postulated that while
there is no doubt that a lot more money is spent during the Holiday
season, the nature of the items purchased is frequently of much lower
actual worth or intrinsic value. We tend to pay far more, for far less,
when we shop for gifts and there is some negative impact associated
with the distortion from the normal price/value relationships that we
adhere to when we shop during the rest of the year. How many of us
would spend $75 for six oranges, three apples, a half dozen mediocre
chocolates, a cardboard box, and some fancy paper 11 months out of the
year? Not many, I'm sure, but tens of millions of these "gift boxes"
and similar values are sold every December.


And the huge discounts. Bought the wife her anniversery gift before
Christmas. 70% of on a diamond bracelet. Normally you would only find a
50% sale during the year.




I'm sure you are happy with your purchase, but...

There's really no such thing as a retail price on most jewelry, especially
manufactured jewelry, such as earrings, pins, bracelets, et cetera. The
store is still making its profit whether you buy at "50%" off or "70%"
off.

Jewelry is fairly unique in this regard. There's very little relationship
between what a store pays and what you pay.

Now, if you want to buy a unique piece, head to NYC and buy some certified
stones at "wholesale"* from one of the Hasidic houses, and then take those
stones to a jewelry artist who will make up a nice piece for you and your
wife. If you know your stuff, you'll end up with something truly yours for
no more than you'd pay a local jeweler.





* this is not the real wholesale wholesale, but the best you as someone
not in the biz will be able to do.

I actually have connections at the jewelry wholesale house in San Francisco,
but for a nice tennis bracelet, a major store can get a good deal, and then
70% makes it very close to wholesale, and I do not have to go to SF and go
shopping. For really special jewelry gifts, I use a local jeweler who is a
manufacturer of custom works that are fantastic. A long time ago, I use to
make really nice jewelry as a hobby.

A wasted day
 

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 03:18:32 GMT, "Bill McKee" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
I said I'd go sailin' and I should have. It was a wasted day at work.
Damned employees have screwed up. If'n ya ever go inta business, rely
only on yourself, dont hire anybody and you'll be happier.
The staff at my Canadian publisher's got the 23, 24, 25, and 26 off for
the holiday. The 23rd and 26th were both paid, "stat" (legal) holidays.
Ebeneezer Scrooge would have been apoplectic, with Bob Cratchitt
picking his pocket *twice*! :-)

Back to business as usual tomorrow. All the stores will be hyping "only
363 days until next Christmas!"

I read an interesting theory about how Christmas giving actually has a
negative impact on the economy. The theorist postulated that while
there is no doubt that a lot more money is spent during the Holiday
season, the nature of the items purchased is frequently of much lower
actual worth or intrinsic value. We tend to pay far more, for far less,
when we shop for gifts and there is some negative impact associated
with the distortion from the normal price/value relationships that we
adhere to when we shop during the rest of the year. How many of us
would spend $75 for six oranges, three apples, a half dozen mediocre
chocolates, a cardboard box, and some fancy paper 11 months out of the
year? Not many, I'm sure, but tens of millions of these "gift boxes"
and similar values are sold every December.


And the huge discounts. Bought the wife her anniversery gift before
Christmas. 70% of on a diamond bracelet. Normally you would only find a
50% sale during the year.




I'm sure you are happy with your purchase, but...

There's really no such thing as a retail price on most jewelry, especially
manufactured jewelry, such as earrings, pins, bracelets, et cetera. The
store is still making its profit whether you buy at "50%" off or "70%"
off.

Jewelry is fairly unique in this regard. There's very little relationship
between what a store pays and what you pay.

Now, if you want to buy a unique piece, head to NYC and buy some certified
stones at "wholesale"* from one of the Hasidic houses, and then take those
stones to a jewelry artist who will make up a nice piece for you and your
wife. If you know your stuff, you'll end up with something truly yours for
no more than you'd pay a local jeweler.





* this is not the real wholesale wholesale, but the best you as someone
not in the biz will be able to do.

I actually have connections at the jewelry wholesale house in San Francisco,
but for a nice tennis bracelet, a major store can get a good deal, and then
70% makes it very close to wholesale, and I do not have to go to SF and go
shopping. For really special jewelry gifts, I use a local jeweler who is a
manufacturer of custom works that are fantastic. A long time ago, I use to
make really nice jewelry as a hobby.


Sounds like a good idea, Bill. Which store did you use? I ask because you sound as
though you may know something about it.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

A wasted day
 

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:38:24 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:


Now, if you want to buy a unique piece, head to NYC and buy some certified
stones at "wholesale"* from one of the Hasidic houses, and then take those
stones to a jewelry artist who will make up a nice piece for you and your
wife. If you know your stuff, you'll end up with something truly yours for
no more than you'd pay a local jeweler.

Ah, 47th Street. I did just as you suggest. Fortunately, the craftsman
was a friend, went with me, and guided me through the experience. I was
quite thankful for the assistance. The Diamond District is definitely a
New York experience, and I mean that in a good way. ;-)

A wasted day
 

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 07:22:57 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:


I bought the stone for my wife's engagement ring in that neighborhood,
and then had an "old fashioned" ring mount made up for her.

I've heard 90% of the diamonds purchased in this country go through that
tiny neighborhood. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the experience, but
without my friend's help, I might have found the ongoings too distracting
to focus on the business at hand, and this, from someone who has lived and
worked in NYC. The Diamond District is a quite fascinating place.

A wasted day
 

"Harry Krause" wrote
Most welfare recipients are children.

Nope.
One must be 18 years old in order to apply for welfare.
You know better than that.

You want to pull children out of
school so they can work service-sector jobs for you?

Many of them will end up there anyway, so why wait?

A wasted day
 

Don,
You are responding to someone who likes to use rec.boats as his personal
newsgroup to troll for political arguments. Please don't feed the troll.\


"Don" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote
Most welfare recipients are children.

Nope.
One must be 18 years old in order to apply for welfare.
You know better than that.

You want to pull children out of
school so they can work service-sector jobs for you?

Many of them will end up there anyway, so why wait?

A wasted day
 

Harry Krause wrote:
Don wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote
Most welfare recipients are children.

Nope.
One must be 18 years old in order to apply for welfare.
You know better than that.

You want to pull children out of
school so they can work service-sector jobs for you?

Many of them will end up there anyway, so why wait?




Thank you. We don't have many of your stripe in here willing to publicly
admit what most believe.



Why not take it to one of the 29 groups at this link, where people
routinely gather to make personal remarks and talk politics?


http://www.politicalindex.com/sect29.htm


With any luck, there are now fewer posters at rec.boats who somehow got
the NG confused with a mud wrestling site. Let's try and avoid letting
the crap start flying again. It only takes a few adults to break the
cycle.

This NG is supposed to be about boating. How many guys to you see out
fishing who are yelling at the guys in neighboring boats, calling names
and arguing politics? Guaranteedalideed that everybody targeting a
school of fish doesn't agree about politics, but that doesn't seem to
make political argument the appropriate subject matter for general
discussion.

Try to be nice, Harry. There was no call for your remark about "people
of your stripe" and etc, and really no reason for you and Don to argue
about welfare in rec.boats.

A wasted day
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
Don wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote
Most welfare recipients are children.

Nope.
One must be 18 years old in order to apply for welfare.
You know better than that.

You want to pull children out of
school so they can work service-sector jobs for you?

Many of them will end up there anyway, so why wait?




Thank you. We don't have many of your stripe in here willing to publicly
admit what most believe.



Why not take it to one of the 29 groups at this link, where people
routinely gather to make personal remarks and talk politics?


http://www.politicalindex.com/sect29.htm


With any luck, there are now fewer posters at rec.boats who somehow got
the NG confused with a mud wrestling site. Let's try and avoid letting
the crap start flying again. It only takes a few adults to break the
cycle.

This NG is supposed to be about boating. How many guys to you see out
fishing who are yelling at the guys in neighboring boats, calling names
and arguing politics? Guaranteedalideed that everybody targeting a
school of fish doesn't agree about politics, but that doesn't seem to
make political argument the appropriate subject matter for general
discussion.

Try to be nice, Harry. There was no call for your remark about "people
of your stripe" and etc, and really no reason for you and Don to argue
about welfare in rec.boats.

The funniest part is that Don is not of the stripe harry thinks he is.

Only another 3-1/2 months to launching :-)

A wasted day
 

Good luck trying to get that old buzzard Harry to change his stripes. I
applaud your effort though.
Nice job on the flag piece, by the way.
Jim
wrote in message
ups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
Don wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote

Why not take it to one of the 29 groups at this link, where people
routinely gather to make personal remarks and talk politics?


http://www.politicalindex.com/sect29.htm


With any luck, there are now fewer posters at rec.boats who somehow got
the NG confused with a mud wrestling site. Let's try and avoid letting
the crap start flying again. It only takes a few adults to break the
cycle.

This NG is supposed to be about boating. How many guys to you see out
fishing who are yelling at the guys in neighboring boats, calling names
and arguing politics? Guaranteedalideed that everybody targeting a
school of fish doesn't agree about politics, but that doesn't seem to
make political argument the appropriate subject matter for general
discussion.

Try to be nice, Harry. There was no call for your remark about "people
of your stripe" and etc, and really no reason for you and Don to argue
about welfare in rec.boats.

A wasted day
 

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:22:19 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chill out, Chuck. I was merely complimenting the poster on his honesty.
I offered him no argument.

==================================

I commend Chuck for taking the time and effort.

It's up to you Harry whether or not you want to be part of the problem
or part of the solution.

"Off topic" is only part of the issue. The REAL problem is
inflammatory behavior, and although you are not the only guilty party,
I believe you are capable of leading the effort to keep it under
control.

A wasted day
 

Chuck,
It appears that most of the people have made a legitimate effort to stop the
name calling and trolling for political arguments.

It also appears that the ONLY reason Harry comes to rec.boats is to insult
people, call them names and troll for political arguments.

The only way Harry will ever stop trolling in rec.boats is if all of us
ignore him. He will not change, but he will find another group more
conducive to what he is looking for.


wrote in message
ups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
Don wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote
Most welfare recipients are children.

Nope.
One must be 18 years old in order to apply for welfare.
You know better than that.

You want to pull children out of
school so they can work service-sector jobs for you?

Many of them will end up there anyway, so why wait?




Thank you. We don't have many of your stripe in here willing to publicly
admit what most believe.



Why not take it to one of the 29 groups at this link, where people
routinely gather to make personal remarks and talk politics?


http://www.politicalindex.com/sect29.htm


With any luck, there are now fewer posters at rec.boats who somehow got
the NG confused with a mud wrestling site. Let's try and avoid letting
the crap start flying again. It only takes a few adults to break the
cycle.

This NG is supposed to be about boating. How many guys to you see out
fishing who are yelling at the guys in neighboring boats, calling names
and arguing politics? Guaranteedalideed that everybody targeting a
school of fish doesn't agree about politics, but that doesn't seem to
make political argument the appropriate subject matter for general
discussion.

Try to be nice, Harry. There was no call for your remark about "people
of your stripe" and etc, and really no reason for you and Don to argue
about welfare in rec.boats.

A wasted day
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:22:19 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chill out, Chuck. I was merely complimenting the poster on his honesty.
I offered him no argument.

==================================

I commend Chuck for taking the time and effort.


I second that.



It's up to you Harry whether or not you want to be part of the problem
or part of the solution.

"Off topic" is only part of the issue. The REAL problem is
inflammatory behavior, and although you are not the only guilty party,
I believe you are capable of leading the effort to keep it under
control.



He remains the only guilty party for several weeks now Wayne.

Unfortunately I do not think that Harry can accept the fact that this NG no
longer belongs to him and he will keep on kicking and screaming until folks
finally just learn to ignore him.

Harry, accept the change or you will be soon just talking to yourself here.

A wasted day
 

Wayne.B wrote:


"Off topic" is only part of the issue. The REAL problem is
inflammatory behavior, and although you are not the only guilty party,
I believe you are capable of leading the effort to keep it under
control.

Precisely.

The real problem is inflammatory behavior.

The name calling and mudslinging that erupts in threads titled: "George
Bush is a So and So" or "Liberals are All Such and Such" oozes
throughout every thread in the group.
The wars that start elsewhere creep into the "on-topic" threads as soon
as one of the participants in the current flame war addresses the topic
and his or her antagonist(s) come screaming in to make nasty personal
remarks.

The problem is inflammatory behavior. Nicely put.

A wasted day
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I'm waiting for your input on the type of rags you prefer to use when
waxing your boat. I prefer diapers.


Speaking of rags or diapers ... if you haven't try out the new microfiber
towels sold in many automotive type stores. They are great for removing
wax, drying a car or boat or any other cleaning, waxing or polishing job.
Far superior to anything else I've ever used and they are washable, so the
investment isn't a one time usage.

Eisboch

A wasted day
 

GMTA


On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:17:12 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"
wrote:

Chuck,
It appears that most of the people have made a legitimate effort to stop the
name calling and trolling for political arguments.

It also appears that the ONLY reason Harry comes to rec.boats is to insult
people, call them names and troll for political arguments.

The only way Harry will ever stop trolling in rec.boats is if all of us
ignore him. He will not change, but he will find another group more
conducive to what he is looking for.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
Don wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote
Most welfare recipients are children.

Nope.
One must be 18 years old in order to apply for welfare.
You know better than that.

You want to pull children out of
school so they can work service-sector jobs for you?

Many of them will end up there anyway, so why wait?




Thank you. We don't have many of your stripe in here willing to publicly
admit what most believe.



Why not take it to one of the 29 groups at this link, where people
routinely gather to make personal remarks and talk politics?


http://www.politicalindex.com/sect29.htm


With any luck, there are now fewer posters at rec.boats who somehow got
the NG confused with a mud wrestling site. Let's try and avoid letting
the crap start flying again. It only takes a few adults to break the
cycle.

This NG is supposed to be about boating. How many guys to you see out
fishing who are yelling at the guys in neighboring boats, calling names
and arguing politics? Guaranteedalideed that everybody targeting a
school of fish doesn't agree about politics, but that doesn't seem to
make political argument the appropriate subject matter for general
discussion.

Try to be nice, Harry. There was no call for your remark about "people
of your stripe" and etc, and really no reason for you and Don to argue
about welfare in rec.boats.



--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

A wasted day
 

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:25:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I'm waiting for your input on the type of rags you prefer to use when
waxing your boat. I prefer diapers.


Speaking of rags or diapers ... if you haven't try out the new microfiber
towels sold in many automotive type stores. They are great for removing
wax, drying a car or boat or any other cleaning, waxing or polishing job.
Far superior to anything else I've ever used and they are washable, so the
investment isn't a one time usage.

Eisboch


I recommend them for the 'ME'. They're all the Mustang ever feels.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****

A wasted day
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:22:19 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chill out, Chuck. I was merely complimenting the poster on his honesty.
I offered him no argument.
==================================

I commend Chuck for taking the time and effort.


I second that.


It's up to you Harry whether or not you want to be part of the problem
or part of the solution.

"Off topic" is only part of the issue. The REAL problem is
inflammatory behavior, and although you are not the only guilty party,
I believe you are capable of leading the effort to keep it under
control.



He remains the only guilty party for several weeks now Wayne.

Unfortunately I do not think that Harry can accept the fact that this NG
no longer belongs to him and he will keep on kicking and screaming until
folks finally just learn to ignore him.

Harry, accept the change or you will be soon just talking to yourself
here.

I'm waiting for your input on the type of rags you prefer to use when
waxing your boat. I prefer diapers.


I use a power buffer with the appropriate foam pads or wool pad.

I use the random orbit Porter-Cable 7424 for both polishing and waxing. I
often finish it up the job with a cotton towel.



Also, do you use Windex or Glass Plus on your boat;s windows? I find the
scent of Glass Plus more pleasant.


Actually I use automotive glass cleaner. It comes in an aerosol can and
foams. It does a great job of cleaning dirty windows. ;-)

A wasted day
 

" JimH" wrote in message
. ..



I use a power buffer with the appropriate foam pads or wool pad.

I use the random orbit Porter-Cable 7424 for both polishing and waxing. I
often finish it up the job with a cotton towel.



aaaauuuuggggg.... No swirls? Only way to wax or polish anything is by
hand, IMOH.

Eisboch

A wasted day
 

and you have to use 100% cotton to wipe off the wax/polish.


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
. ..



I use a power buffer with the appropriate foam pads or wool pad.

I use the random orbit Porter-Cable 7424 for both polishing and waxing.
I often finish it up the job with a cotton towel.



aaaauuuuggggg.... No swirls? Only way to wax or polish anything is by
hand, IMOH.

Eisboch

A wasted day
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
. ..



I use a power buffer with the appropriate foam pads or wool pad.

I use the random orbit Porter-Cable 7424 for both polishing and waxing.
I often finish it up the job with a cotton towel.



aaaauuuuggggg.... No swirls? Only way to wax or polish anything is by
hand, IMOH.

Eisboch


Random orbit............no swirls.

A wasted day
 

" JimH" wrote in message
. ..

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
. ..



I use a power buffer with the appropriate foam pads or wool pad.

I use the random orbit Porter-Cable 7424 for both polishing and waxing.
I often finish it up the job with a cotton towel.



aaaauuuuggggg.... No swirls? Only way to wax or polish anything is by
hand, IMOH.

Eisboch


Random orbit............no swirls.


Betcha otherwise. Borrow somebody elses bright, shiney, BLACK car and wax
on/wax off with a random orbit polisher. Then, in twilight, stand back and
admire the swirls.

Eisboch

A wasted day
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
. ..

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
. ..



I use a power buffer with the appropriate foam pads or wool pad.

I use the random orbit Porter-Cable 7424 for both polishing and waxing.
I often finish it up the job with a cotton towel.



aaaauuuuggggg.... No swirls? Only way to wax or polish anything is
by hand, IMOH.

Eisboch


Random orbit............no swirls.


Betcha otherwise. Borrow somebody elses bright, shiney, BLACK car and wax
on/wax off with a random orbit polisher. Then, in twilight, stand back
and admire the swirls.

Eisboch


I do not own a black car or a black boat so I would not know. I also use a
polish (3M Finesse It II) prior to the wax application.

All I know is that I never had a problem with mine and professional
detailing and body shops use electric polishers, including random orbit,
everyday.

Perhaps the black car you saw needed a good polish and rewax job. ;-)

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I found that flannel works great for me - then again, is that what
cloth diapers are made of? I dunno.

"Pickin' those ole Flannel fields back home"....

Eisboch

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:03:19 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I'm waiting for your input on the type of rags you prefer to use when
waxing your boat. I prefer diapers.


Speaking of rags or diapers ... if you haven't try out the new
microfiber
towels sold in many automotive type stores. They are great for removing
wax, drying a car or boat or any other cleaning, waxing or polishing
job.
Far superior to anything else I've ever used and they are washable, so
the
investment isn't a one time usage.

I agree they're good for drying a freshly washed boat, but I really
truly prefer soft cloth diapers to buff off wax. It's not easy finding
good quality cloth diapers these days, though.

I found that flannel works great for me - then again, is that what
cloth diapers are made of? I dunno.

Having kids I am sure you know what they become full of though. ;-)

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:44:50 -0500, " JimH" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:03:19 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I'm waiting for your input on the type of rags you prefer to use when
waxing your boat. I prefer diapers.


Speaking of rags or diapers ... if you haven't try out the new
microfiber
towels sold in many automotive type stores. They are great for
removing
wax, drying a car or boat or any other cleaning, waxing or polishing
job.
Far superior to anything else I've ever used and they are washable, so
the
investment isn't a one time usage.

I agree they're good for drying a freshly washed boat, but I really
truly prefer soft cloth diapers to buff off wax. It's not easy finding
good quality cloth diapers these days, though.

I found that flannel works great for me - then again, is that what
cloth diapers are made of? I dunno.

Having kids I am sure you know what they become full of though. ;-)

Actually, no. All my kids were adopted.


You missed out on some pretty stinky stuff.

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Harry,
I have to agree with your decision, it probably is better if you keep me and
a few others filtered.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
GMTA


On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:17:12 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"

wrote:




Sorry, but Smithers, along with one or two others here, earned themselves
a permanent place on my list of The Useless, so you can be sure I'm not
interested in his opinions, advice, or attempts to make himself appear to
be a "boater."

And, by the way, some may find your ceaseless references to "Christmas"
controversial and political.

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:11:01 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Is there is a list of approved subjects?

=============================

Yes, only those that interest me. :-)

I'll let you know.

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:06:37 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

What sort of rags do you use to wax your boat, Wayne?

=======================

I'll have to ask her.

:-)

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 02:20:38 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:



And the huge discounts. Bought the wife her anniversery gift before
Christmas. 70% of on a diamond bracelet. Normally you would only find a
50% sale during the year.

I'm with you on that one, though that just goes to show the ridiculous
mark-up on jewelry and hints at it's true value.

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"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 02:20:38 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:



And the huge discounts. Bought the wife her anniversery gift before
Christmas. 70% of on a diamond bracelet. Normally you would only find a
50% sale during the year.

I'm with you on that one, though that just goes to show the ridiculous
mark-up on jewelry and hints at it's true value.

The true value is not the $$$$.