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Eisboch December 27th 05 12:39 AM

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Kinda gives one shivers...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=fishing+hell


(gotta stop searching these Google Videos)

Eisboch



Wayne.B December 27th 05 12:48 AM

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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:39:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Kinda gives one shivers...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=fishing+hell


(gotta stop searching these Google Videos)


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Nasty. Looked like a wood boat that sprung some planking.

Any details?


Doug Kanter December 27th 05 12:55 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Kinda gives one shivers...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=fishing+hell


(gotta stop searching these Google Videos)

Eisboch


Among other things, this points out that there should be a way of testing
one's microphone to determine optimum distance for intelligibility. I can't
make out a single word from the vessel in distress.



JimH December 27th 05 12:55 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Kinda gives one shivers...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=fishing+hell


(gotta stop searching these Google Videos)

Eisboch



I am not oblivious to the possible tragic consequences, and I try to plan
for them, but I prefer to look at the more enjoyable points of boating. ;-)



Eisboch December 27th 05 01:00 AM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:39:22 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Kinda gives one shivers...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=fishing+hell


(gotta stop searching these Google Videos)


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Nasty. Looked like a wood boat that sprung some planking.

Any details?


None other than that offered on the page. I noticed the author provided an
e-mail address if anyone wanted more details or high resolution copies of
the pictures. New Zealand address, I think.

Eisboch



Eisboch December 27th 05 01:02 AM

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Kinda gives one shivers...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=fishing+hell


(gotta stop searching these Google Videos)

Eisboch


Among other things, this points out that there should be a way of testing
one's microphone to determine optimum distance for intelligibility. I
can't make out a single word from the vessel in distress.


Agreed, it was hard to make out sometimes, but the poor guy was obviously in
a high tension mode. Lesson here, I think, is to try to modulate the
excitement and speak as normally and clearly as you can, given the
circumstances.

Eisboch



[email protected] December 27th 05 01:11 AM

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Did it have any floatation?


Wayne.B December 27th 05 01:16 AM

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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:02:48 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Lesson here, I think, is to try to modulate the
excitement and speak as normally and clearly as you can, given the
circumstances.


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Yes. It also says a lot for an an EPIRB with integral GPS and
registered boat ID. Hope I never have to use it but I'm glad we have
one. It appears the CG found him OK so perhaps the actual audio was
clearer than the recording.


Eisboch December 27th 05 01:29 AM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:02:48 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Lesson here, I think, is to try to modulate the
excitement and speak as normally and clearly as you can, given the
circumstances.


==================================

Yes. It also says a lot for an an EPIRB with integral GPS and
registered boat ID. Hope I never have to use it but I'm glad we have
one. It appears the CG found him OK so perhaps the actual audio was
clearer than the recording.


Ditto here. Hated spending the bucks, but it's nice to know you have it.
Which reminds me. They are supposed to be serviced every so often and I
haven't done that. Add it to the list for next year. Which brings up
another subject. Life rafts. I installed a six person raft but because I
don't charter the boat I've not had it tested or repacked. It's about three
years old now I think. Add another item to the list.

Eisboch



Wayne.B December 27th 05 03:08 AM

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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:29:20 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I installed a six person raft but because I
don't charter the boat I've not had it tested or repacked. It's about three
years old now I think. Add another item to the list.


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It's definitely due after three years, usually required every year for
inspected boats. We bought a new one last spring since my old one had
20+ years of hard sail boat racing on it. They offered an option for
vacuum bagging in a hermetically sealed package which supposedly
extends the recommended repack interval to three or four years.


K. Smith December 27th 05 07:36 AM

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Eisboch wrote:
Kinda gives one shivers...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=fishing+hell


(gotta stop searching these Google Videos)

Eisboch



Agree he's a bit inaudible at times but is it possible you're having
more trouble with it because of the NZ accent??

I'd suggest if he was an American or even Canadian with an accent
you're more familiar with it might help.

As an Ozzy I could mostly understand the substance & given the size of
the hole:-) ..................... he did a pretty good job:-)

K

Eisboch December 27th 05 12:43 PM

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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There are only two or three certified SOLAS certified inspectors in CT
I was surprised to learn.


That's part of the problem. In addition to being a pain in the ass to
remove it and lug it off the boat, there's only a few places around here to
take it. I don't think there's any in MA. I'd have to take it to RI or CT.

If equipped, you are also supposed to have the automatic engine room fire
extinquishers weighed - every year, I think. Haven't done that for a while
either. The gauges read fine.

Eisboch



JIMinFL December 27th 05 01:27 PM

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There used to be a place in Medford Mass. that did repacking and inspection.
Imtra was the name, I believe.
JIMinFL
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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There are only two or three certified SOLAS certified inspectors in CT
I was surprised to learn.


That's part of the problem. In addition to being a pain in the ass to
remove it and lug it off the boat, there's only a few places around here
to take it. I don't think there's any in MA. I'd have to take it to RI
or CT.

If equipped, you are also supposed to have the automatic engine room fire
extinquishers weighed - every year, I think. Haven't done that for a
while either. The gauges read fine.

Eisboch




Eisboch December 27th 05 01:31 PM

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"JIMinFL" wrote in message
ink.net...

There used to be a place in Medford Mass. that did repacking and
inspection. Imtra was the name, I believe.
JIMinFL


Thanks Jim. I'll check it out. The place in Rhode Island, assumming they
are still in business, might be just as close for me. I was just thinking
that now might be a good time to get this stuff done, rather than waiting
until spring when it gets busy.

I just refuse to go outside unless it's above 40 degrees.

Eisboch



Doug Kanter December 27th 05 01:41 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JIMinFL" wrote in message
ink.net...

There used to be a place in Medford Mass. that did repacking and
inspection. Imtra was the name, I believe.
JIMinFL


Thanks Jim. I'll check it out. The place in Rhode Island, assumming they
are still in business, might be just as close for me. I was just thinking
that now might be a good time to get this stuff done, rather than waiting
until spring when it gets busy.

I just refuse to go outside unless it's above 40 degrees.

Eisboch



40??!!?? That's summertime here! Kids wear shorts at the bus stop when it
gets that warm.



Wayne.B December 27th 05 04:36 PM

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:31:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Thanks Jim. I'll check it out. The place in Rhode Island, assumming they
are still in business, might be just as close for me. I was just thinking
that now might be a good time to get this stuff done, rather than waiting
until spring when it gets busy.

I just refuse to go outside unless it's above 40 degrees.


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I'd be surprised if there isn't a place in New Bedord or Fairhaven
given the size of the comercial fishing fleet there. Here's one that
popped up on Google:

I.M.P. Fishing Gear, Ltd
44 South Street, South Terminal
New Bedford, MA 02740
Phone: 508-993-0010
Toll Free: 1-800-467-8865

http://www.impmarine.com/impmarine/

A quick call to Fairhaven Shipyard would probably generate some leads
also. They are a first class operation:

http://www.fairhavenship.com/

Same with JTs in Newport, RI

http://www.jtschandlery.com/





[email protected] December 27th 05 04:57 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
Kinda gives one shivers...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=fishing+hell


(gotta stop searching these Google Videos)

Eisboch


I'm trying to figure out the boatyard shots at the end of the video.

Did they raise the vessel and discover the bottom torn away (as though
from hitting a submerged container, or something), or are those photos
of some previous work that was done before they got underway? If the
previous repair failed or they actually lost that much of the bottom,
it's amazing they had three minutes to call for help and abandon ship.


Wayne.B December 27th 05 06:30 PM

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On 27 Dec 2005 08:57:44 -0800, wrote:

Did they raise the vessel and discover the bottom torn away (as though
from hitting a submerged container, or something), or are those photos
of some previous work that was done before they got underway? If the
previous repair failed or they actually lost that much of the bottom,
it's amazing they had three minutes to call for help and abandon ship.


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There was one shot that implied that they towed it back in with
flotation barrels, probably the same way they raised it.

It looked to me like a wooden boat that had lost a major section of
planking. My guess is that the plywood visible in one picture was a
temporary patch to allow pumping. I've never been in the salvage
business but my understanding is that the usual technique is to raise
the boat until the decks are awash, apply a patch, and pump it dry
enough that it can be towed. We were out at Cuttyhunk Island south of
Cape Cod one summer when SeaTow and the USCG brought in a 42 ft
Silverton that way. The boat had dinged a rock and one or both shaft
struts had been pushed up through the bottom.


Eisboch December 27th 05 06:38 PM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

We were out at Cuttyhunk Island south of
Cape Cod one summer when SeaTow and the USCG brought in a 42 ft
Silverton that way. The boat had dinged a rock and one or both shaft
struts had been pushed up through the bottom.


Ooouucchh .... Hate it when that happens.

Eisboch



Wayne.B December 27th 05 07:40 PM

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:38:16 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ooouucchh .... Hate it when that happens.


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Yeah it was ugly, fairly new boat also.

The SeaTow guy was going to extraordinary lengths to protect his
salvage rights by jaw boning the USCG into writing it up "his" way.


Jack Redington December 28th 05 02:39 AM

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Eisboch wrote:
Kinda gives one shivers...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=fishing+hell


(gotta stop searching these Google Videos)

Eisboch



It almost looks like the bottom just fell apart from some of those pics..

Capt Jack R..



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