wrote: Tom
So you are suspicious of claims of oil additives, but buy into the oil
company hype about 3,000 mile oil changes.
Interesting.
Later,
Tom


I could careless about oil company recommendations, but rather what
manufactuers recommended lubrication intervals are, and mine says every
3,000 miles. UD

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:07:30 -0800, (UglyDan®©™)
wrote:

I could careless about oil company recommendations, but rather what
manufactuers recommended lubrication intervals are, and mine says every
3,000 miles. UD

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That's a tough manufacturer. Most are up to 5 or 6,000 these days.
That seems about right to me, equates to about 100 hours or so.

I was surprised however to see a 250 hour recommendation on my Kohler
diesel generator. I try to do it a bit more often however. It's
really difficult to equate hours to equivalent miles on a lightly used
generator.

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:07:30 -0800, (UglyDan®©™)
wrote:


wrote: Tom
So you are suspicious of claims of oil additives, but buy into the oil
company hype about 3,000 mile oil changes.
Interesting.
Later,
Tom


I could careless about oil company recommendations, but rather what
manufactuers recommended lubrication intervals are, and mine says every
3,000 miles. UD


Most manufacturers actually recommend 7 to 8 K miles and have for
years. Every 3.000 miles was a dealer invention.

Or Jiffy Lube...

Dan

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:47:22 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On our house generator, I change it every fall because it only gets a
once per month test run - we don't lose power as often as we used to.
I don't think I've seriously run it for more than four hours with one
exception - last Spring when we lost power in a wind storm that lasted
a day.

==========================

Our Kohler should be so lucky. We put over 1,000 hours on it this
last summer.

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:32:19 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Our Kohler should be so lucky. We put over 1,000 hours on it this
last summer.

Sure is quiet running though.

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Generators on boats are like certain family members: They are never
quite quiet enough.

UglyDan®©™ wrote:
wrote: Tom
So you are suspicious of claims of oil additives, but buy into the oil
company hype about 3,000 mile oil changes.
Interesting.
Later,
Tom


I could careless about oil company recommendations, but rather what
manufactuers recommended lubrication intervals are, and mine says every
3,000 miles. UD


Mrs. G has decided to upgrade her car, and we've been doing a bit of
shopping.
We came across one model, (a European nameplate assembled in Alabama),
where the recommended oil change interval is "once a year, or every
15,000 miles." When pressed, the salesperson confessed that the going
rate for that oil change in the shop is just under $200, but countered
quickly with "but you're not really spending any more, since you only
have to deal with it once a year." Yeah, right.

As a battered old warhorse with an extensive background in the auto
industry, I believe that auto manufacturers are primarily concerned
with getting a vehicle up to or slightly beyond the warranty period
with a minimum of costly repair incidents. After that, they either
couldn't care less or actually hope that things begin going gunny sack
fast and frequently enough to inspire a trade in.

We have the technology to build gasoline engines that will routinely
run 1/4 million miles in passenger car service, but we don't have the
desire to do so.

When reviewing the manufacturer's recommendations, it may be good
practice to consider, "What does the manufacturer really want? Does he
want this car to last me the rest of my life so I won't need to buy
another one, or does he want me back in the market
just after the warranty runs out?"

I change oil on all my vehicles at 3000 mile intervals, and change the
oil and filters on my boat every 50 hours.

Chuck,
BMW uses a synthetic oil, not dino oil. Syn's are not supposed to have a
15,000 mile life. I am not sure of the filter, but they supposedly make an
oversized oil filter that will last the 15,000 miles. BMW really is
interested in quality that will have a long life, they believe most owners
will be updating every 3 yrs anyone. Their used cars are in demand because
most owners perceived them to be a quality product.

That said, I am still concerned about those who drive short trips building
up moisture in the oil, or acid being left in the oil.





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UglyDan®©T wrote:
wrote: Tom
So you are suspicious of claims of oil additives, but buy into the oil
company hype about 3,000 mile oil changes.
Interesting.
Later,
Tom


I could careless about oil company recommendations, but rather what
manufactuers recommended lubrication intervals are, and mine says every
3,000 miles. UD


Mrs. G has decided to upgrade her car, and we've been doing a bit of
shopping.
We came across one model, (a European nameplate assembled in Alabama),
where the recommended oil change interval is "once a year, or every
15,000 miles." When pressed, the salesperson confessed that the going
rate for that oil change in the shop is just under $200, but countered
quickly with "but you're not really spending any more, since you only
have to deal with it once a year." Yeah, right.

As a battered old warhorse with an extensive background in the auto
industry, I believe that auto manufacturers are primarily concerned
with getting a vehicle up to or slightly beyond the warranty period
with a minimum of costly repair incidents. After that, they either
couldn't care less or actually hope that things begin going gunny sack
fast and frequently enough to inspire a trade in.

We have the technology to build gasoline engines that will routinely
run 1/4 million miles in passenger car service, but we don't have the
desire to do so.

When reviewing the manufacturer's recommendations, it may be good
practice to consider, "What does the manufacturer really want? Does he
want this car to last me the rest of my life so I won't need to buy
another one, or does he want me back in the market
just after the warranty runs out?"

I change oil on all my vehicles at 3000 mile intervals, and change the
oil and filters on my boat every 50 hours.

wrote:


I change oil on all my vehicles at 3000 mile intervals, and change the
oil and filters on my boat every 50 hours.


Same for me...which comes out to twice a year on the van, and I'll do
the outboard twice a year since it will spend half it's life in salt
water and half in fresh over a five month season.