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Both are 2001 models with 100hrs on them

thanks again



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Hello, I have a client looking a purchasing a Used Sea Ray 400DB. One has
Cat C3126TA and the other has Cummins 6TCA. besides HP. What are the
other feature benefits for both of these? Thank you in Advance

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Hi Noah,

I think he probably wants to learn more about this subject.

There are people here that have lots of knowledge on these two motors.

I am curious because I might want to buy something over 20' with a small
diesel some day?

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:40:36 GMT, "Scot" wrote:

Hello, I have a client looking a purchasing a Used Sea Ray 400DB. One

has
Cat C3126TA and the other has Cummins 6TCA. besides HP. What are the
other feature benefits for both of these? Thank you in Advance


No offense intended, but aren't you the guy that's supposed to know?
When I win the lottery, I'm going to quiz my broker.
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 06:05:06 GMT, "Bill Kiene"
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Hi Noah,

I think he probably wants to learn more about this subject.

There are people here that have lots of knowledge on these two motors.

I am curious because I might want to buy something over 20' with a small
diesel some day?


You may be right, Bill.

It just struck me as odd that "America's #1 Yacht Brokerage" didn't
know the answer to the question posed.

I apologised in another post.

A few times since I found rec.boats there have been heated debates
about "advertising" in the group. In most cases, the people in
question were regular contributors to the group, and the consensus
seemed to be that the people, like yourself, were welcome additions to
the group, and that the sig lines were harmless. I agree. Then,
there are those who are simply selling soap, and calling it "Boat
Soap".

Perhaps I feel a bit protective about rec.boats, and need to get some
air. ) Want to buy a cupholder? Rod holders, fishing poles,
engine mounts? Boat insurance, a new dock, maybe a condo on the bay?
How about a nice set of knockers for your cuddy-cabin door? )

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:40:36 GMT, "Scot" wrote:

Hello, I have a client looking a purchasing a Used Sea Ray 400DB. One has
Cat C3126TA and the other has Cummins 6TCA. besides HP. What are the
other feature benefits for both of these? Thank you in Advance


Scot and the rest of you...

I'd like to point out that of 15 replies, none directly compare these
two engines. If it weren't for Google/Deja News, these threads would
be lost in just a week or two because the senseless bantering clogs
the news servers and so they throw away articles quickly. And it's
frustrating to search Usenet only to find a related topic but loaded
with sideline drivel.

A close friend repowered two boats - mine, a 35' woody displacement,
with a 6BT Cummins, and his, a 48' tiawan fiberglass trawler, with a
CAT C12.

The Cummins is a slightly lower rpm engine and may not like getting
the Sea Ray up on a plane. You need to closey compair the torque
curves for the rpm range and speed you expect to run given the prop
you plan to use. I know very little about the CAT, but my feeling is
that it's more refined and has more top end than the Cummins. I love
my 6BT, but I can't imagine it pushing a planing hull (your 6CT has an
even longer stroke at 135mm vs my 6BT at 120mm and the CAT at 127mm).

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good input .. appreciate it.

scot

"Jaz" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:40:36 GMT, "Scot" wrote:

Hello, I have a client looking a purchasing a Used Sea Ray 400DB. One

has
Cat C3126TA and the other has Cummins 6TCA. besides HP. What are the
other feature benefits for both of these? Thank you in Advance


Scot and the rest of you...

I'd like to point out that of 15 replies, none directly compare these
two engines. If it weren't for Google/Deja News, these threads would
be lost in just a week or two because the senseless bantering clogs
the news servers and so they throw away articles quickly. And it's
frustrating to search Usenet only to find a related topic but loaded
with sideline drivel.

A close friend repowered two boats - mine, a 35' woody displacement,
with a 6BT Cummins, and his, a 48' tiawan fiberglass trawler, with a
CAT C12.

The Cummins is a slightly lower rpm engine and may not like getting
the Sea Ray up on a plane. You need to closey compair the torque
curves for the rpm range and speed you expect to run given the prop
you plan to use. I know very little about the CAT, but my feeling is
that it's more refined and has more top end than the Cummins. I love
my 6BT, but I can't imagine it pushing a planing hull (your 6CT has an
even longer stroke at 135mm vs my 6BT at 120mm and the CAT at 127mm).





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Thanks Al. Nice Link.


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Scot,

Checkout www.boatdiesel.com

there is a lot of info in there, problems, history, as well as
solutions. If you do a search i am sure you sill also have found
someone who at one time asked the same quesiton. (you may have to buy
a 1yr member ship to get to all the articals, but for $25 I think you
will get the most reliable info from that forum)

I seem to remember an article in one of the mags this summer (perhaps
passagemaker, or such?) comparing a CAT and Cummins. Cat came out on
top in terms of Performance and fuel efficiency, but I do not remember
which specific engines those were.

I own a 6BTA, and have found it very reliable. The 6CTA shares some
of those traits as well: Simple design, etc.

I think another real consideration (perhaps the most important as
inthe end I suspect you will find that both CAT and Cummins make
respectable engines) is the level of service and support at your
clients location. Might ask around about the local Cat and Cummins
service reps and see what the opinion of them is around there....

-al-



On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:40:36 GMT, "Scot" wrote:

Hello, I have a client looking a purchasing a Used Sea Ray 400DB. One

has
Cat C3126TA and the other has Cummins 6TCA. besides HP. What are the
other feature benefits for both of these? Thank you in Advance

--
Scot
American Yacht - Ship - Sales - Management
www.americanyachtsonline.com
America's #1 Yacht Brokerage







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